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	<title>Comments on: Antiscience bill passes Tennessee House vote</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: The Rogue Blogger &#187; Keeping an Open Mind</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Rogue Blogger &#187; Keeping an Open Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] partially responsible and all of the people that dismiss this are backed by oil companies or are anti-science fundamentalists. The chapter in the book talked about how alternative energy sources (wind and solar for example), [...]</description>
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		<title>By: anti gay hysteria in the us - Page 3</title>
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		<dc:creator>anti gay hysteria in the us - Page 3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are aslo passing a bill to weaken the teaching of real science in schools.  Good blog on it here: Antiscience bill passes Tennessee House vote &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine  &quot;This bill prohibits the state board of education and any public elementary or secondary [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are aslo passing a bill to weaken the teaching of real science in schools.  Good blog on it here: Antiscience bill passes Tennessee House vote | Bad Astronomy | Discover Magazine  &quot;This bill prohibits the state board of education and any public elementary or secondary [...]</p>
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		<title>By: nice2835</title>
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		<dc:creator>nice2835</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 19:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, SCIENCE IS DOOMED. THE WORLD IS DOOMED... oh wait.. its TENNESSEE! lol, no one \comes from there</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, SCIENCE IS DOOMED. THE WORLD IS DOOMED&#8230; oh wait.. its TENNESSEE! lol, no one \comes from there</p>
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		<title>By: R Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>R Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 22:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mike burkhart</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike burkhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad the goverment shutdown did not happen. I think a court will throw this law out so lets just relax and file a lawsuit . I thik a monthly star chart will be good for this blog I know there are many star chart websites ,but I think a monthly one would add something to this site , we would not have to go to those other sites and also Phill could add info about upcomeing things to look for in the sky and where to look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad the goverment shutdown did not happen. I think a court will throw this law out so lets just relax and file a lawsuit . I thik a monthly star chart will be good for this blog I know there are many star chart websites ,but I think a monthly one would add something to this site , we would not have to go to those other sites and also Phill could add info about upcomeing things to look for in the sky and where to look.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 15:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live near Nashville, TN and was listening to coverage of this on my local NPR station. One of the dissenters was quoted, and my heart swelled with hope: &quot;Reason!&quot; I thought.

No. Their reason for not approving of the bill? It wasn&#039;t specific enough, and allowed, for example, a Wiccan teacher to say what she wished.

So anyone who thinks the wording is somehow going to prohibit actual religious teaching in the classroom... even the legislators apparently don&#039;t feel that way, since they&#039;re worried the religion being taught won&#039;t be the &quot;right&quot; one. 

I love this state in a lot of ways but sometimes I desperately want out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live near Nashville, TN and was listening to coverage of this on my local NPR station. One of the dissenters was quoted, and my heart swelled with hope: &#8220;Reason!&#8221; I thought.</p>
<p>No. Their reason for not approving of the bill? It wasn&#8217;t specific enough, and allowed, for example, a Wiccan teacher to say what she wished.</p>
<p>So anyone who thinks the wording is somehow going to prohibit actual religious teaching in the classroom&#8230; even the legislators apparently don&#8217;t feel that way, since they&#8217;re worried the religion being taught won&#8217;t be the &#8220;right&#8221; one. </p>
<p>I love this state in a lot of ways but sometimes I desperately want out.</p>
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		<title>By: Anchor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anchor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 14:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, if this legislation is allowed to stand and do what its authors, adherents and supporters so hopefully intend, we should expect almost no world-class scientific minds to be cultivated (literally) out of the Great State of Tennessee...and they can boom and brag about how much  &#039;smarter&#039; they were than the scientists and other people of rational and reasonable habit who brought any economic prosperity to that state that currently exists, as it sinks irretrievably into a stinking cess-pit of knee-jerk religious righteousness and ignorance...

...whereupon they will inevitably one day soon thereafter (once the money flow runs dry) howl magnificently in superior outrage against the temerity of other states, institutions and wealthy corporate interests in snubbing them for reasons they do not wish to understand....

Welcome to the Civil War Version 2. Available in stores everywhere.

...And these people (AGAIN) will have the audacity to express moral autonomy and claim the &#039;liberty&#039; of choosing how their kids are educated in matters of science: to wit, they find science education as a dirrect assault on their precious religious convictions, and so must be summarilly shut out.

It&#039;s very interesting how the very same rationale of absolutism and god-like entitlement propelled so many people of the southern states to reject the idea of legislation against slavery nearly 150 years ago, enough for them to go to the extreme of the seccessionist warpath...simply because they were Totally Aware and Absolutely Convinced that they are were in the Infinite Right.

Doesn&#039;t anybody notice?...these people actually talk and act as if they ARE God. 

THAT&#039;s what ANY religion is all about: obtaining political power and economic influence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, if this legislation is allowed to stand and do what its authors, adherents and supporters so hopefully intend, we should expect almost no world-class scientific minds to be cultivated (literally) out of the Great State of Tennessee&#8230;and they can boom and brag about how much  &#8216;smarter&#8217; they were than the scientists and other people of rational and reasonable habit who brought any economic prosperity to that state that currently exists, as it sinks irretrievably into a stinking cess-pit of knee-jerk religious righteousness and ignorance&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;whereupon they will inevitably one day soon thereafter (once the money flow runs dry) howl magnificently in superior outrage against the temerity of other states, institutions and wealthy corporate interests in snubbing them for reasons they do not wish to understand&#8230;.</p>
<p>Welcome to the Civil War Version 2. Available in stores everywhere.</p>
<p>&#8230;And these people (AGAIN) will have the audacity to express moral autonomy and claim the &#8216;liberty&#8217; of choosing how their kids are educated in matters of science: to wit, they find science education as a dirrect assault on their precious religious convictions, and so must be summarilly shut out.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very interesting how the very same rationale of absolutism and god-like entitlement propelled so many people of the southern states to reject the idea of legislation against slavery nearly 150 years ago, enough for them to go to the extreme of the seccessionist warpath&#8230;simply because they were Totally Aware and Absolutely Convinced that they are were in the Infinite Right.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t anybody notice?&#8230;these people actually talk and act as if they ARE God. </p>
<p>THAT&#8217;s what ANY religion is all about: obtaining political power and economic influence.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 10:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken B (25) said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;You can discuss the “weaknesses” of Evolution all day long, . . . &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, this shouldn&#039;t take more than 2 minutes.

To whit:
[Teacher] People have been attacking evolutionary theory ever since it was first published in 1859, attempting to find holes or flaws in the theory.  Every angle of attack has been shown to be illogical or at odds with the evidence. Now, on to how evolution actually works . . . [/Teacher]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken B (25) said:</p>
<blockquote><p>You can discuss the “weaknesses” of Evolution all day long, . . . </p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, this shouldn&#8217;t take more than 2 minutes.</p>
<p>To whit:<br />
[Teacher] People have been attacking evolutionary theory ever since it was first published in 1859, attempting to find holes or flaws in the theory.  Every angle of attack has been shown to be illogical or at odds with the evidence. Now, on to how evolution actually works . . . [/Teacher]</p>
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		<title>By: Slyph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slyph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 08:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am appalled. All scientists in the U.S. and especially in Tennessee should be writing and calling their representatives. Don&#039;t really know how much can be accomplished, but the effort should be made. Religious fanaticism will be the death of not only this country; but sadly I fear, our world. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am appalled. All scientists in the U.S. and especially in Tennessee should be writing and calling their representatives. Don&#8217;t really know how much can be accomplished, but the effort should be made. Religious fanaticism will be the death of not only this country; but sadly I fear, our world. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bill in SF</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill in SF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2011 23:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As one of the token religious people who drops by here, I&#039;m sorry for what those idiots in Tennessee are trying to do to everybody...  Fortunately for me, I don&#039;t live in Tennessee, and unfortunately, my teaching style with high school kids resembles Ben Stein&#039;s &quot;blah blah blah blah, anybody?  Buehler?&quot;

But think of all the good this bill can do in the hands of a good teacher - it doesn&#039;t specify what kind of science classes it&#039;s talking about, so sex education classes that used to be &quot;abstinence-only&quot; propaganda can now &quot;teach the controversy&quot;.  

And on the subject of evolution, the fundamental question is &quot;What&#039;s the world like, and how did it get to be that way?&quot;  The null hypothesis is &quot;It&#039;s always been like this&quot;, and some of the alternative hypotheses include &quot;Evolution over billions of years&quot; and &quot;Evolution that all happened one week in 4004BC&quot; and &quot;A FSM and some Pirates are &lt;i&gt;messing with it&lt;/i&gt;.&quot;   How do you tell if the world&#039;s changing?  What evidence is there, are there experiments we can do, where would you look for things that would be different if the different theories are correct?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As one of the token religious people who drops by here, I&#8217;m sorry for what those idiots in Tennessee are trying to do to everybody&#8230;  Fortunately for me, I don&#8217;t live in Tennessee, and unfortunately, my teaching style with high school kids resembles Ben Stein&#8217;s &#8220;blah blah blah blah, anybody?  Buehler?&#8221;</p>
<p>But think of all the good this bill can do in the hands of a good teacher &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t specify what kind of science classes it&#8217;s talking about, so sex education classes that used to be &#8220;abstinence-only&#8221; propaganda can now &#8220;teach the controversy&#8221;.  </p>
<p>And on the subject of evolution, the fundamental question is &#8220;What&#8217;s the world like, and how did it get to be that way?&#8221;  The null hypothesis is &#8220;It&#8217;s always been like this&#8221;, and some of the alternative hypotheses include &#8220;Evolution over billions of years&#8221; and &#8220;Evolution that all happened one week in 4004BC&#8221; and &#8220;A FSM and some Pirates are <i>messing with it</i>.&#8221;   How do you tell if the world&#8217;s changing?  What evidence is there, are there experiments we can do, where would you look for things that would be different if the different theories are correct?</p>
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		<title>By: PeteC</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeteC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2011 23:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe not this particular bill, but I&#039;m sure I&#039;ve seen versions of this that would be really fun for a science teacher. 

Once required to &quot;teach the controversy&quot;, then in theory one would be protected to do it properly... a detailed analysis of evidence for evolution.... and detailed evidence for intelligent design or a creator. Complete with practicals and experiments. One half the class duplicates well known experiments, the other half alternately prays to Allah, Buddha, Yarweh, Jesus, Jupiter, Mithras and the FSM (unless, of course, the law determines an official, govermentally-mandated state religion...). We&#039;ll see which one produces results. Followed by a detailed analysis of all the contradictions and flaws in the &quot;reference text&quot; used by one theory. Allowing a science teacher several sessions of detailing flaws in the Bible - material which will appear in the exams.

Explaining to some of these legislators that one doesn&#039;t believe in teaching religion in science lessons, but since their laws require it then, as it is a *science* lesson and not a religious studies class, it will be taught from a scientific viewpoint and basis, would be delicious. I know, I know, it can&#039;t happen - but it&#039;s a lovely thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe not this particular bill, but I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ve seen versions of this that would be really fun for a science teacher. </p>
<p>Once required to &#8220;teach the controversy&#8221;, then in theory one would be protected to do it properly&#8230; a detailed analysis of evidence for evolution&#8230;. and detailed evidence for intelligent design or a creator. Complete with practicals and experiments. One half the class duplicates well known experiments, the other half alternately prays to Allah, Buddha, Yarweh, Jesus, Jupiter, Mithras and the FSM (unless, of course, the law determines an official, govermentally-mandated state religion&#8230;). We&#8217;ll see which one produces results. Followed by a detailed analysis of all the contradictions and flaws in the &#8220;reference text&#8221; used by one theory. Allowing a science teacher several sessions of detailing flaws in the Bible &#8211; material which will appear in the exams.</p>
<p>Explaining to some of these legislators that one doesn&#8217;t believe in teaching religion in science lessons, but since their laws require it then, as it is a *science* lesson and not a religious studies class, it will be taught from a scientific viewpoint and basis, would be delicious. I know, I know, it can&#8217;t happen &#8211; but it&#8217;s a lovely thought.</p>
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		<title>By: ND</title>
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		<dc:creator>ND</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2011 15:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When a person becomes this fanatical about their religion, that person will lie and cheat to promote the religion that says not to lie and cheat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a person becomes this fanatical about their religion, that person will lie and cheat to promote the religion that says not to lie and cheat.</p>
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		<title>By: TheBlackCat</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheBlackCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2011 18:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a lot of people in this thread seem to be missing is that courts often take into account the stated intent of the bill as well as the exact wording.  So what are the supposedly scientific weaknesses of evolution?  ID arguments, according to those who passed the bill.  Many judges will take this into account when judging whether an action is in line with the law.  So although the text of the bill does not explicitly support teaching ID by our definition of what a scientific weakness of evolution would be, what really matters is what those who passed the law think, and they are clearly intending ID to be taught.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a lot of people in this thread seem to be missing is that courts often take into account the stated intent of the bill as well as the exact wording.  So what are the supposedly scientific weaknesses of evolution?  ID arguments, according to those who passed the bill.  Many judges will take this into account when judging whether an action is in line with the law.  So although the text of the bill does not explicitly support teaching ID by our definition of what a scientific weakness of evolution would be, what really matters is what those who passed the law think, and they are clearly intending ID to be taught.</p>
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		<title>By: Unstrung</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unstrung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2011 18:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve typed up letters for my senator and representative in Nashville and will be sending them by email and regular post. Considering calling them as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve typed up letters for my senator and representative in Nashville and will be sending them by email and regular post. Considering calling them as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Hovind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Hovind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2011 16:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the house debate. He actually claims that Einstein claimed that a full knowledge of physics would turn anyone towards Christianity. Einstein--Christianity.

The level of ignorance is stupefying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the house debate. He actually claims that Einstein claimed that a full knowledge of physics would turn anyone towards Christianity. Einstein&#8211;Christianity.</p>
<p>The level of ignorance is stupefying.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Hovind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Hovind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2011 16:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a video on you tube of a geologist from Vanderbilt reading the House the riot act. And one of the Represetnatives says, &quot;I see through you. You want to make a false equivocation [he didn&#039;t say that, but its what he meant] between an exact science like Atomic Theory and evolution which is only a theory; you think I&#039;m an Idiot.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a video on you tube of a geologist from Vanderbilt reading the House the riot act. And one of the Represetnatives says, &#8220;I see through you. You want to make a false equivocation [he didn't say that, but its what he meant] between an exact science like Atomic Theory and evolution which is only a theory; you think I&#8217;m an Idiot.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Louisiana-style &#8220;teach the controversy&#8221; bill advances in Tennessee &#8211; Ars Technica &#124; Relevant News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louisiana-style &#8220;teach the controversy&#8221; bill advances in Tennessee &#8211; Ars Technica &#124; Relevant News</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Binary</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/04/08/antiscience-bill-passes-tennessee-house-vote/comment-page-2/#comment-375096</link>
		<dc:creator>Binary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2011 06:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conversely, it means no teacher (etc.) may prevent a student from &quot;review[ing] in an objective manner the scientific strengths and scientific weaknesses&quot; of creationism in his/her class.

Assuming this passes, I&#039;ll be waiting for the moment a bright kid does exactly that and turns this bill on its head.  And just wait for the scandal of a child refusing to listen to that hokum because guess what - it&#039;s legal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conversely, it means no teacher (etc.) may prevent a student from &#8220;review[ing] in an objective manner the scientific strengths and scientific weaknesses&#8221; of creationism in his/her class.</p>
<p>Assuming this passes, I&#8217;ll be waiting for the moment a bright kid does exactly that and turns this bill on its head.  And just wait for the scandal of a child refusing to listen to that hokum because guess what &#8211; it&#8217;s legal.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel J. Andrews</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/04/08/antiscience-bill-passes-tennessee-house-vote/comment-page-2/#comment-375086</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel J. Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2011 05:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m halfway through Dr. Ken Miller&#039;s Only a Theory in which he dismantles ID from a scientific point of view as well as a philosophical point of view, showing how bankrupt it is in both spheres.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m halfway through Dr. Ken Miller&#8217;s Only a Theory in which he dismantles ID from a scientific point of view as well as a philosophical point of view, showing how bankrupt it is in both spheres.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Cuddles</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/04/08/antiscience-bill-passes-tennessee-house-vote/comment-page-2/#comment-375062</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Cuddles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2011 03:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its all over,  the United States is dead set on running headlong back to the stone age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its all over,  the United States is dead set on running headlong back to the stone age.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/04/08/antiscience-bill-passes-tennessee-house-vote/comment-page-2/#comment-375042</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Apr 2011 01:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find comfort in the wording &#039;scientific theories&#039; knowing that there is nothing scientific about creationism or &#039;intelligent design&#039;. However, I&#039;m sure someone will twist that meaning and sue the schools when the principal stops them from teaching creationism.
I recommend &#039;Atoms and Eden&#039; to you to read.  It is a compilation of interviews with scientists, religious persons, and atheists about religion and science... good comments and thought provoking...http://www.amazon.com/Atoms-Eden-Conversations-Religion-Science/dp/0199743169</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find comfort in the wording &#8216;scientific theories&#8217; knowing that there is nothing scientific about creationism or &#8216;intelligent design&#8217;. However, I&#8217;m sure someone will twist that meaning and sue the schools when the principal stops them from teaching creationism.<br />
I recommend &#8216;Atoms and Eden&#8217; to you to read.  It is a compilation of interviews with scientists, religious persons, and atheists about religion and science&#8230; good comments and thought provoking&#8230;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Atoms-Eden-Conversations-Religion-Science/dp/0199743169" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Atoms-Eden-Conversations-Religion-Science/dp/0199743169</a></p>
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		<title>By: «bønez_brigade»</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/04/08/antiscience-bill-passes-tennessee-house-vote/comment-page-2/#comment-375019</link>
		<dc:creator>«bønez_brigade»</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 23:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is highly recommended that one watch the pre-vote commentary from yesterday, in order to hear the anti-evolution agenda come out, and also to hear a fake Einstein quote (pertaining to atheism/Christianity) used by one of the bill&#039;s supports.
Here&#039;s a link to the video, starting at the HB368 material:
http://tnga.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=196&amp;clip_id=3989&amp;meta_id=73331
The fake quote starts around the 3:06:20 mark.

TN is a completely red state (house, senate, governor), so don&#039;t count on the bill getting stopped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is highly recommended that one watch the pre-vote commentary from yesterday, in order to hear the anti-evolution agenda come out, and also to hear a fake Einstein quote (pertaining to atheism/Christianity) used by one of the bill&#8217;s supports.<br />
Here&#8217;s a link to the video, starting at the HB368 material:<br />
<a href="http://tnga.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=196&#038;clip_id=3989&#038;meta_id=73331" rel="nofollow">http://tnga.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?view_id=196&#038;clip_id=3989&#038;meta_id=73331</a><br />
The fake quote starts around the 3:06:20 mark.</p>
<p>TN is a completely red state (house, senate, governor), so don&#8217;t count on the bill getting stopped.</p>
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		<title>By: MartinM</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/04/08/antiscience-bill-passes-tennessee-house-vote/comment-page-2/#comment-374991</link>
		<dc:creator>MartinM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In other words, since evolution is part of the curriculum, you need to be able to discuss the “strengths” and “weaknesses” of the current theory of evolution. However, since “Intelligent Design” is not part of the curriculum, you can’t cover the “strengths” and “weaknesses” of ID&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ah, but ID is literally just a collection of bad arguments against evolution. There&#039;s no actual content there. There really isn&#039;t any part of ID that couldn&#039;t be taught as a supposed &#039;weakness&#039; of evolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In other words, since evolution is part of the curriculum, you need to be able to discuss the “strengths” and “weaknesses” of the current theory of evolution. However, since “Intelligent Design” is not part of the curriculum, you can’t cover the “strengths” and “weaknesses” of ID</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah, but ID is literally just a collection of bad arguments against evolution. There&#8217;s no actual content there. There really isn&#8217;t any part of ID that couldn&#8217;t be taught as a supposed &#8216;weakness&#8217; of evolution.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/04/08/antiscience-bill-passes-tennessee-house-vote/comment-page-2/#comment-374978</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tennessee is making me sad... My *Catholic school* didn&#039;t &#039;teach the controversy&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tennessee is making me sad&#8230; My *Catholic school* didn&#8217;t &#8216;teach the controversy&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: kuhnigget</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/04/08/antiscience-bill-passes-tennessee-house-vote/comment-page-2/#comment-374952</link>
		<dc:creator>kuhnigget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 19:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ dcsohl:

&lt;i&gt;...or promote discrimination for or against religion or non-religion.&lt;/i&gt;

THAT is the heart of the bill, the one the fundies don&#039;t want you to think about. 

If they can&#039;t teach their crap fake science in school, they are going to try and get real science - evolution - kicked out too, because it &quot;discriminates&quot; against biblical literalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ dcsohl:</p>
<p><i>&#8230;or promote discrimination for or against religion or non-religion.</i></p>
<p>THAT is the heart of the bill, the one the fundies don&#8217;t want you to think about. </p>
<p>If they can&#8217;t teach their crap fake science in school, they are going to try and get real science &#8211; evolution &#8211; kicked out too, because it &#8220;discriminates&#8221; against biblical literalism.</p>
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