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	<title>Comments on: Caturtleday, with face-planty goodness</title>
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		<title>By: Rum and Reason &#187; Llama ahora &#124; Bad Astronomy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rum and Reason &#187; Llama ahora &#124; Bad Astronomy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 01:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] hey, remember the turtle I videoed a couple of weeks ago doing a faceplant off a log? That was featured in Boulder&#039;s Daily Camera [...]</description>
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		<title>By: shawmutt</title>
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		<dc:creator>shawmutt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 14:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait until Apple makes an app that reminds people to turn their iPod/iPhone sideways!</description>
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		<title>By: Lars Bruchmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lars Bruchmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 10:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Buzz.. that sounds like my marriage!  LOL</description>
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		<title>By: Buzz Parsec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buzz Parsec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw a pair of snappers about this size in Fresh Pond, Cambridge last week.  I was sure if they were engaged in some sort of territorial battle or if they were showing affection in pure Klingon fashion.  In the middle of the ?battle?, they spent quite a bit of time just clasping each other, plastron to plastron, while floating on their sides just below the surface of the water.   Earlier they seemed to be butting each other with their heads, trying to climb on top of each other, trying to push and hold each other underwater, with a fair amount of slow-motion whacking with their clawed feet and occasional snaps.  The general consensus of the people I pointed them out to was they were mating, but I&#039;m not convinced either way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw a pair of snappers about this size in Fresh Pond, Cambridge last week.  I was sure if they were engaged in some sort of territorial battle or if they were showing affection in pure Klingon fashion.  In the middle of the ?battle?, they spent quite a bit of time just clasping each other, plastron to plastron, while floating on their sides just below the surface of the water.   Earlier they seemed to be butting each other with their heads, trying to climb on top of each other, trying to push and hold each other underwater, with a fair amount of slow-motion whacking with their clawed feet and occasional snaps.  The general consensus of the people I pointed them out to was they were mating, but I&#8217;m not convinced either way.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce J. Mohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce J. Mohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sexing snappers isn&#039;t as easy as it is with terrestrial turtles.  Normally you&#039;d be correct that the male has a a concavity in his plastron (lower shell) and the female is convex.  But water turtles and particularly snappers don&#039;t seem to adhere to this rule as nicely.  Generally male turtles have longer tails than females as theri genitalia is housed there, but you need a male and a female turtle to compare tail length.

Moving snappers isn&#039;t hard if you don&#039;t piss them off.  I usually grip them near the base of the tail and slide one hand underneath and lift.  The hand holding the tail is just to hold the turtle on my other hand, not to lift with.  If you move them quickly, they usually don&#039;t get upset.

Contrary to popular belief, they can&#039;t bite a finger off.  The tip of their beaks can cause deep punctures though and the sides of the beak will cause bruising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sexing snappers isn&#8217;t as easy as it is with terrestrial turtles.  Normally you&#8217;d be correct that the male has a a concavity in his plastron (lower shell) and the female is convex.  But water turtles and particularly snappers don&#8217;t seem to adhere to this rule as nicely.  Generally male turtles have longer tails than females as theri genitalia is housed there, but you need a male and a female turtle to compare tail length.</p>
<p>Moving snappers isn&#8217;t hard if you don&#8217;t piss them off.  I usually grip them near the base of the tail and slide one hand underneath and lift.  The hand holding the tail is just to hold the turtle on my other hand, not to lift with.  If you move them quickly, they usually don&#8217;t get upset.</p>
<p>Contrary to popular belief, they can&#8217;t bite a finger off.  The tip of their beaks can cause deep punctures though and the sides of the beak will cause bruising.</p>
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		<title>By: Niall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 11:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Turtles: Even their faceplants are slow</description>
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		<title>By: Lars Bruchmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lars Bruchmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 10:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tristan: Thanks for giving the appropriate nomenclature for the turtle parts. That is about all I know about turtles/tortoiuses: how to sex them. I love impressing people with it. Chicks totally dig it. I once tried to &#039;save&#039; a snapper on hwy 79 near the south end of Wichita Falls, TX, USA. When I came up to it he turned and moved towards me hissing and opening his mouth, it was very scary. I was inadvertently pushing him backwards onto the road so I had to move around him so he was chasing me off the hwy, that seemed to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tristan: Thanks for giving the appropriate nomenclature for the turtle parts. That is about all I know about turtles/tortoiuses: how to sex them. I love impressing people with it. Chicks totally dig it. I once tried to &#8216;save&#8217; a snapper on hwy 79 near the south end of Wichita Falls, TX, USA. When I came up to it he turned and moved towards me hissing and opening his mouth, it was very scary. I was inadvertently pushing him backwards onto the road so I had to move around him so he was chasing me off the hwy, that seemed to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Monkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 04:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always hold my breath (for shorter clips, 30 sec or so) and hold on to all my camera gadgets (straps, lens cover, etc) tight so the wind doesn&#039;t whap them into the camera, giving that camera &#039;handling&#039; sound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always hold my breath (for shorter clips, 30 sec or so) and hold on to all my camera gadgets (straps, lens cover, etc) tight so the wind doesn&#8217;t whap them into the camera, giving that camera &#8216;handling&#8217; sound.</p>
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		<title>By: Bipedal Tetrapod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bipedal Tetrapod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 15:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess is that its a she - with many freshwater turtles the females have shorter tails and claws. But I&#039;d have to get closer. And I have been MUCH closer to these beautiful little creatures!
As for nomenclature, in North America, tortoises are land-dwelling, turtles are fresh water dwellers, and sea-turtles are marine.
I have also heard the term &quot;terrapin&quot; used for freshwater turtles - I believe that term is common in Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is that its a she &#8211; with many freshwater turtles the females have shorter tails and claws. But I&#8217;d have to get closer. And I have been MUCH closer to these beautiful little creatures!<br />
As for nomenclature, in North America, tortoises are land-dwelling, turtles are fresh water dwellers, and sea-turtles are marine.<br />
I have also heard the term &#8220;terrapin&#8221; used for freshwater turtles &#8211; I believe that term is common in Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Don´t Panic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don´t Panic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caturtle?
hmmmm kaaayy
Some hardcore rodeo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjZqZWbmXK4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caturtle?<br />
hmmmm kaaayy<br />
Some hardcore rodeo.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjZqZWbmXK4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjZqZWbmXK4</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tristan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 09:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the concave/convex plastron thing is super cool! I was taught how to determine the sex of a turtle when I was studying with a wildlife vet in Indonesia. He had picked up two small tortoises from their enclosure and was jamming them together in the appropriate position to demonstrate how well the male &quot;slots&quot; onto the female&#039;s carapace when he clambers on top of her to mate!

Seriously though, don&#039;t ever flip a turtle if you don&#039;t have to - the weight of the turtle&#039;s shell can crush its respiratory system and cause it some serious stress and discomfort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the concave/convex plastron thing is super cool! I was taught how to determine the sex of a turtle when I was studying with a wildlife vet in Indonesia. He had picked up two small tortoises from their enclosure and was jamming them together in the appropriate position to demonstrate how well the male &#8220;slots&#8221; onto the female&#8217;s carapace when he clambers on top of her to mate!</p>
<p>Seriously though, don&#8217;t ever flip a turtle if you don&#8217;t have to &#8211; the weight of the turtle&#8217;s shell can crush its respiratory system and cause it some serious stress and discomfort.</p>
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		<title>By: Lars Bruchmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lars Bruchmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 08:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG, I lived near Porltand, OR when the &quot;I like turtles&quot; kid said that on the newscast. Great fun. I thought this was a male turtle due to the apparent concave area on his ventral side, visible when he pitches forward onto his face. This area is on males so they can... er... fit on top of the female during mating w/o falling off to the sides. I wish I had a concave surface on my belly... right now it&#039;s more convex really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, I lived near Porltand, OR when the &#8220;I like turtles&#8221; kid said that on the newscast. Great fun. I thought this was a male turtle due to the apparent concave area on his ventral side, visible when he pitches forward onto his face. This area is on males so they can&#8230; er&#8230; fit on top of the female during mating w/o falling off to the sides. I wish I had a concave surface on my belly&#8230; right now it&#8217;s more convex really.</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 05:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This limerick-ical one : 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esoil27Y0g8 

By Ogden Nash is slightly different and somewhat more risque! ;-)

 Although it does echo the point made in # 25. Hope its okay to post it here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This limerick-ical one : </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esoil27Y0g8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esoil27Y0g8</a> </p>
<p>By Ogden Nash is slightly different and somewhat more risque! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p> Although it does echo the point made in # 25. Hope its okay to post it here.</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 05:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@27.   Dave Mundt : For the whole Saint-Saen’s “Carnival of the Animals” see : 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjaBGAfWGSU 

&amp; for tortoise specifically :

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHvqaRaDzQE 

on Youtube. 

Which also boasts this : 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul0gfCyeiyM 

cat vs turtle (?) duel. Enjoy!  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@27.   Dave Mundt : For the whole Saint-Saen’s “Carnival of the Animals” see : </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjaBGAfWGSU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjaBGAfWGSU</a> </p>
<p>&amp; for tortoise specifically :</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHvqaRaDzQE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHvqaRaDzQE</a> </p>
<p>on Youtube. </p>
<p>Which also boasts this : </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul0gfCyeiyM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul0gfCyeiyM</a> </p>
<p>cat vs turtle (?) duel. Enjoy!  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 05:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminded me of Steinbeck&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Grapes of Wrath&lt;/i&gt; novel : 

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;The cat crept close between the men again, and its tail lay flat and its whiskers jerked now and then. The Sun dropped low toward the horizon and the dusty air was red and golden.  The cat reached out a grey questioning paw and touched Joad&#039;s coat. He looked around. &#039;Hell, I forgot the turtle. I ain&#039;t gonna pack it all over hell.&#039;  He unwrapped the land turtle and pushed it under the house. But in a moment it was out, headed south-west as it had been from the first. The cat leaped at it and struck at its straining head and slashed at its moving feet. The old, hard, humorous head was pulled in, and the thick tail slapped in under the shell, and when the cat grew tired of walked off, the turtle, the turtle headed on south-west again.

Young Tom Joad and the preacher watched the turtle go - waving its legs and boosting its heavy high-domed shell along toward the south-west. The cat crept along behind it for a while, but in a dozen yards it arched its back to a strong taut bow and yawned and came stealthily back toward the seated men. 

&#039;Where the hell do you s&#039;pose he&#039;s goin&#039;?&#039; said Joad. &#039;I seen turtles all my life. They&#039;re always goin&#039; some place. They always seem to want to get there.&#039;&quot; 

- Page 41, &lt;i&gt;&#039;The Grapes of Wrath&#039;&lt;/i&gt;, John Steinbeck, Chancellor Press, first published 1939, this issue 1992. &lt;/blockquote&gt; 

*****

There we go -  a quote including cats, turtles and astronomy &lt;i&gt;(the setting sun and our planet&#039;s atmosphere)&lt;/i&gt; for Caturtleday!  ;-) 

@27.   Dave Mundt : Good poem quote - cheers. :-) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminded me of Steinbeck&#8217;s <i>Grapes of Wrath</i> novel : </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The cat crept close between the men again, and its tail lay flat and its whiskers jerked now and then. The Sun dropped low toward the horizon and the dusty air was red and golden.  The cat reached out a grey questioning paw and touched Joad&#8217;s coat. He looked around. &#8216;Hell, I forgot the turtle. I ain&#8217;t gonna pack it all over hell.&#8217;  He unwrapped the land turtle and pushed it under the house. But in a moment it was out, headed south-west as it had been from the first. The cat leaped at it and struck at its straining head and slashed at its moving feet. The old, hard, humorous head was pulled in, and the thick tail slapped in under the shell, and when the cat grew tired of walked off, the turtle, the turtle headed on south-west again.</p>
<p>Young Tom Joad and the preacher watched the turtle go &#8211; waving its legs and boosting its heavy high-domed shell along toward the south-west. The cat crept along behind it for a while, but in a dozen yards it arched its back to a strong taut bow and yawned and came stealthily back toward the seated men. </p>
<p>&#8216;Where the hell do you s&#8217;pose he&#8217;s goin&#8217;?&#8217; said Joad. &#8216;I seen turtles all my life. They&#8217;re always goin&#8217; some place. They always seem to want to get there.&#8217;&#8221; </p>
<p>- Page 41, <i>&#8216;The Grapes of Wrath&#8217;</i>, John Steinbeck, Chancellor Press, first published 1939, this issue 1992. </p></blockquote>
<p>*****</p>
<p>There we go &#8211;  a quote including cats, turtles and astronomy <i>(the setting sun and our planet&#8217;s atmosphere)</i> for Caturtleday!  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>@27.   Dave Mundt : Good poem quote &#8211; cheers. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 04:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard of mock turtle soup : 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrGN5LmCQag

&amp; 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/heston_blumenthal/article6336443.ece




and the mock turtle character :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mock_Turtle  

But a mock turtle video clip is a new one! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard of mock turtle soup : </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrGN5LmCQag" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrGN5LmCQag</a></p>
<p>&amp; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/heston_blumenthal/article6336443.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/heston_blumenthal/article6336443.ece</a></p>
<p>and the mock turtle character :</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mock_Turtle" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mock_Turtle</a>  </p>
<p>But a mock turtle video clip is a new one! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 03:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That could, I suppose on close inspection by a qualified turtle-ologist, turn out to be a teenage or even a mutant turtle but that&#039;s clearly &lt;b&gt;NOT&lt;/b&gt; a ninja turtle! ;-) 

(Can&#039;t believe I&#039;m the first to use that reference here!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That could, I suppose on close inspection by a qualified turtle-ologist, turn out to be a teenage or even a mutant turtle but that&#8217;s clearly <b>NOT</b> a ninja turtle! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>(Can&#8217;t believe I&#8217;m the first to use that reference here!)</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Mundt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Mundt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 01:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my favorite recordings remains, after 50+ years,   Saint-Saen&#039;s &quot;Carnival of the Animals&quot;, with verses by Ogden Nash.   I thought this was an appropriate poem to quote here:

&quot;THE TORTOISE

Come crown my brow with leaves of myrtle,
I know the tortoise is a turtle,
Come carve my name in stone immortal,
I know the turtoise is a tortle.
I know to my profound despair,
I bet on one to beat a hare,
I also know I’m now a pauper,
Because of its tortley, turtley, torper. &quot;

(spoken in stately, dulcet tones)

regards
dave mundt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my favorite recordings remains, after 50+ years,   Saint-Saen&#8217;s &#8220;Carnival of the Animals&#8221;, with verses by Ogden Nash.   I thought this was an appropriate poem to quote here:</p>
<p>&#8220;THE TORTOISE</p>
<p>Come crown my brow with leaves of myrtle,<br />
I know the tortoise is a turtle,<br />
Come carve my name in stone immortal,<br />
I know the turtoise is a tortle.<br />
I know to my profound despair,<br />
I bet on one to beat a hare,<br />
I also know I’m now a pauper,<br />
Because of its tortley, turtley, torper. &#8221;</p>
<p>(spoken in stately, dulcet tones)</p>
<p>regards<br />
dave mundt</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 00:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thinking of the differences : 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortoise#Use_of_the_term_.22tortoise.22 

&amp; 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrapin_(disambiguation)

From the usual fount of all wisdom. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thinking of the differences : </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortoise#Use_of_the_term_.22tortoise.22" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortoise#Use_of_the_term_.22tortoise.22</a> </p>
<p>&amp; </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrapin_(disambiguation)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrapin_(disambiguation)</a></p>
<p>From the usual fount of all wisdom. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 00:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;For scale, I’d guess his (hers? Who can tell?)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Another turtle hopefully! ;-)

They must be able to tell the difference otherwise they&#039;d go extinct. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>For scale, I’d guess his (hers? Who can tell?)</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Another turtle hopefully! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>They must be able to tell the difference otherwise they&#8217;d go extinct.</p>
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		<title>By: Nic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 00:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cracking picture. lovely, but it would have been better with four teeny elephants and a teeny Discworld on top, :). People unfamiliar with Terry Pratchett won&#039;t get that, but never mind..

N</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cracking picture. lovely, but it would have been better with four teeny elephants and a teeny Discworld on top, <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . People unfamiliar with Terry Pratchett won&#8217;t get that, but never mind..</p>
<p>N</p>
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		<title>By: Tbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 22:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well he had an excuse for clumsiness, a human with a videocamera scared him.
http://xkcd.com/889/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well he had an excuse for clumsiness, a human with a videocamera scared him.<br />
<a href="http://xkcd.com/889/" rel="nofollow">http://xkcd.com/889/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Theramansi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theramansi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 22:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK...

So all tortoises are turtles, but not all turtles are tortoises.

Kinda like: all pulsars are neutron stars, but not all neutrons stars are pulsars.   :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK&#8230;</p>
<p>So all tortoises are turtles, but not all turtles are tortoises.</p>
<p>Kinda like: all pulsars are neutron stars, but not all neutrons stars are pulsars.   :p</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Purple</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Purple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@18- Chet-
Please don&#039;t lift them by the tail. It can injure their spine. In practice, the best advice for laypersons is to simply not touch the animal. Snapping turtles can inflict serious damage, and even seasoned reptile keepers must be careful moving them. Personally, I am far less nervous dealing with pitvipers than large snapping turtles. 

Also, it could be either a female searching for a nesting opportunity, or a male that has been pushed out of his home by a larger snapper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@18- Chet-<br />
Please don&#8217;t lift them by the tail. It can injure their spine. In practice, the best advice for laypersons is to simply not touch the animal. Snapping turtles can inflict serious damage, and even seasoned reptile keepers must be careful moving them. Personally, I am far less nervous dealing with pitvipers than large snapping turtles. </p>
<p>Also, it could be either a female searching for a nesting opportunity, or a male that has been pushed out of his home by a larger snapper.</p>
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		<title>By: Michel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dark Jaguar
Plug in real mikes and don´t use the build in mikes.
But that means cables and/or wireless etc.</description>
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Plug in real mikes and don´t use the build in mikes.<br />
But that means cables and/or wireless etc.</p>
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