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		<title>By: Real saturn pictures In A Car Accident &#124; Saturn Car Pictures</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/06/28/titanic-slice/comment-page-1/#comment-398725</link>
		<dc:creator>Real saturn pictures In A Car Accident &#124; Saturn Car Pictures</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 22:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] * . Due to a quirk of physics (aha!) all the moons and rings of Saturn orbit the &#8230; &#8230;Read the full story      How real       Yes, this is a real picture.       Real Saturn       Saturn&#8217;s abrupt [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2011 11:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ ^ Bob :  Cheers - good animation &amp; explanation there. :-)

@3.   VinceRN : &lt;i&gt;&quot;Saturn’s moons are definitely the coolest part of the solar system to me. Though this rock we live on is pretty cool too.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nah, Pluto - make that Eris, no make that &lt;b&gt;*Sedna*&lt;/b&gt; - has to be the coolest place in our solar system! ;-)  

NB. Apparently one of the Lunar polar craters has the record for coldest place currently known in our solar system - but I&#039;m betting that we&#039;ll find Pluto or another of the ice dwarfs or a cometary nucleus has colder spots! 

@8.   Ken B : 

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;any object that tries to stray out of that plane&quot;
Hey! Don’t you have an article about why anthropomorphizing is bad?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Well animals (eg. pet dogs &amp; cats &amp; cows) tend to stray as much or more than humans do - so I&#039;m not sure &quot;straying&quot; quite equals anthropomorphising!   

PS. About the whole &quot;golf clap&quot; thing (no, I don&#039;t get it either) - could it have something to do with the &#039;slice&#039; word maybe? ;-) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ^ Bob :  Cheers &#8211; good animation &amp; explanation there. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@3.   VinceRN : <i>&#8220;Saturn’s moons are definitely the coolest part of the solar system to me. Though this rock we live on is pretty cool too.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Nah, Pluto &#8211; make that Eris, no make that <b>*Sedna*</b> &#8211; has to be the coolest place in our solar system! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>NB. Apparently one of the Lunar polar craters has the record for coldest place currently known in our solar system &#8211; but I&#8217;m betting that we&#8217;ll find Pluto or another of the ice dwarfs or a cometary nucleus has colder spots! </p>
<p>@8.   Ken B : </p>
<blockquote><p><i>&#8220;any object that tries to stray out of that plane&#8221;<br />
Hey! Don’t you have an article about why anthropomorphizing is bad?</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Well animals (eg. pet dogs &amp; cats &amp; cows) tend to stray as much or more than humans do &#8211; so I&#8217;m not sure &#8220;straying&#8221; quite equals anthropomorphising!   </p>
<p>PS. About the whole &#8220;golf clap&#8221; thing (no, I don&#8217;t get it either) &#8211; could it have something to do with the &#8216;slice&#8217; word maybe? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 21:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool photo!  But the orbits of two of Saturn&#039;s moons are not the same plane as the rings.  In my June almanac for the Westchester Astronomers*, I mentioned that it was hard to find charts for Iapetus, since its&#039; orbit is tilted from the plane of the other moons, but it&#039;s easier to see Saturn&#039;s rings from Iapetus, since its orbit takes it above and below the ring plane.  At my blog site, today I posted some simulated photos produced from JPL&#039;s Solar System Simulator site to show how the view of the rings is &quot;better&quot; from Iapetus.

Blog site:  http://bkellysky.wordpress.com

*http://www.westchesterastronomers.org/ 
Look for the NEWSLETTER section - click on June 2011 for the PDF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool photo!  But the orbits of two of Saturn&#8217;s moons are not the same plane as the rings.  In my June almanac for the Westchester Astronomers*, I mentioned that it was hard to find charts for Iapetus, since its&#8217; orbit is tilted from the plane of the other moons, but it&#8217;s easier to see Saturn&#8217;s rings from Iapetus, since its orbit takes it above and below the ring plane.  At my blog site, today I posted some simulated photos produced from JPL&#8217;s Solar System Simulator site to show how the view of the rings is &#8220;better&#8221; from Iapetus.</p>
<p>Blog site:  <a href="http://bkellysky.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://bkellysky.wordpress.com</a></p>
<p>*<a href="http://www.westchesterastronomers.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.westchesterastronomers.org/</a><br />
Look for the NEWSLETTER section &#8211; click on June 2011 for the PDF.</p>
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		<title>By: chris j.</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris j.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 20:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>truthspeaker @31, though i can&#039;t claim to have a complete grasp of the physics or the terminology, my understanding is that as the moon revolves around the earth, the point on the earth that is directly below it oscillates between -23 deg and +23 deg latitude (the tropics of cancer and capricorn). since the earth is somewhat fatter at the equator than at the poles (due to its rotation), the moon&#039;s drift between the tropics should create a torque that either pulls it into the earth&#039;s rotational plane, or pulls the earth&#039;s rotation into the moon&#039;s orbital plane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>truthspeaker @31, though i can&#8217;t claim to have a complete grasp of the physics or the terminology, my understanding is that as the moon revolves around the earth, the point on the earth that is directly below it oscillates between -23 deg and +23 deg latitude (the tropics of cancer and capricorn). since the earth is somewhat fatter at the equator than at the poles (due to its rotation), the moon&#8217;s drift between the tropics should create a torque that either pulls it into the earth&#8217;s rotational plane, or pulls the earth&#8217;s rotation into the moon&#8217;s orbital plane.</p>
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		<title>By: truthspeaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>truthspeaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I hope #5 isn&#039;t a serious question.</description>
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		<title>By: truthspeaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>truthspeaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would you expect the moon&#039;s orbit to be above the earth&#039;s equator?</description>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@22. Nigel Depledge -

Good guess, but no :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@22. Nigel Depledge -</p>
<p>Good guess, but no <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Gary (27) -
Er, I&#039;m not sure I get it.

Could you go into a bit more detail?</description>
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Er, I&#8217;m not sure I get it.</p>
<p>Could you go into a bit more detail?</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Chris J (23) -
Good question.

It&#039;s set me to thinking, and I don&#039;t have an answer . . . yet.

Maybe some knowledgeable other commenter will be able to give us the answer (and save me the bother of looking it up - hey, I&#039;m a biochemist and celestial mechanics make my head hurt).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Chris J (23) -<br />
Good question.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s set me to thinking, and I don&#8217;t have an answer . . . yet.</p>
<p>Maybe some knowledgeable other commenter will be able to give us the answer (and save me the bother of looking it up &#8211; hey, I&#8217;m a biochemist and celestial mechanics make my head hurt).</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>25.   DennyMo

&quot;The plane of the ecliptic (also known as the ecliptic plane) is the plane of the Earth&#039;s orbit around the Sun&quot;

Whereas earths equatorial plane is inclined 23 degrees to the plane of the ecliptic. The Moon is not just in orbit of earth. It also orbits the sun(in the plane of the ecliptic). 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>25.   DennyMo</p>
<p>&#8220;The plane of the ecliptic (also known as the ecliptic plane) is the plane of the Earth&#8217;s orbit around the Sun&#8221;</p>
<p>Whereas earths equatorial plane is inclined 23 degrees to the plane of the ecliptic. The Moon is not just in orbit of earth. It also orbits the sun(in the plane of the ecliptic). </p>
<p>Gary 7</p>
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		<title>By: Aubri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aubri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Titanic slice

o/~ Nearer, my God, to thee... o/~
Too soon? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Titanic slice</p>
<p>o/~ Nearer, my God, to thee&#8230; o/~<br />
Too soon? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DennyMo</title>
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		<dc:creator>DennyMo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I saw the title, I wondered why BA was writing an article on my golf game...

Nigel, I&#039;m glad I&#039;m not the only one who chuckled at Christoper&#039;s phraseology.

BA, neat pic, thanks for posting this one.  But I&#039;m also &quot;wondering what chris is&quot;.  Why isn&#039;t our moon in an equatorial orbit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I saw the title, I wondered why BA was writing an article on my golf game&#8230;</p>
<p>Nigel, I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m not the only one who chuckled at Christoper&#8217;s phraseology.</p>
<p>BA, neat pic, thanks for posting this one.  But I&#8217;m also &#8220;wondering what chris is&#8221;.  Why isn&#8217;t our moon in an equatorial orbit?</p>
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		<title>By: Shoeshine Boy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/06/28/titanic-slice/comment-page-1/#comment-392674</link>
		<dc:creator>Shoeshine Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The photo reminds me of the old &quot;Twilight Zone&quot; TV series opening scene.</description>
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		<title>By: chris j.</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris j.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why is our moon still in the ecliptic, instead of orbiting over earth&#039;s equator?

i understand why the moon&#039;s rotation is tidally locked with its revolution, and that eventually the earth and moon will be locked together (assuming it happens before the sun goes red giant). what i don&#039;t understand is why, after more than 4 billion years, the moon&#039;s orbit and the earth&#039;s equatorial plane have not matched up. 

given how far the moon has moved away from the earth during that time, and assuming the impact theory is correct, shouldn&#039;t the moon&#039;s orbit have drifted out of the ecliptic by now?

is it because the earth/moon mass ratio is so much lower than the corresponding ratios for the gas/ice giants and their moons?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why is our moon still in the ecliptic, instead of orbiting over earth&#8217;s equator?</p>
<p>i understand why the moon&#8217;s rotation is tidally locked with its revolution, and that eventually the earth and moon will be locked together (assuming it happens before the sun goes red giant). what i don&#8217;t understand is why, after more than 4 billion years, the moon&#8217;s orbit and the earth&#8217;s equatorial plane have not matched up. </p>
<p>given how far the moon has moved away from the earth during that time, and assuming the impact theory is correct, shouldn&#8217;t the moon&#8217;s orbit have drifted out of the ecliptic by now?</p>
<p>is it because the earth/moon mass ratio is so much lower than the corresponding ratios for the gas/ice giants and their moons?</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 09:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christopher Shoup (13) said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m wondering what Joel is.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

At a wild guess, I&#039;d say &lt;i&gt;Homo sapiens&lt;/i&gt;.

;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher Shoup (13) said:</p>
<blockquote><p>I’m wondering what Joel is.</p></blockquote>
<p>At a wild guess, I&#8217;d say <i>Homo sapiens</i>.</p>
<p> <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jeffersonian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffersonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 09:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>phil
Thanx for &#039;splaining the physics.</description>
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Thanx for &#8216;splaining the physics.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Shoup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Shoup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 05:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It could be the Cassini division, I just think it gets a touch too wide compared to the rest of the line.</description>
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		<title>By: Digital Atheist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Digital Atheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 03:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@18

I presumed the same thing actually.</description>
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<p>I presumed the same thing actually.</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 03:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great image. :-)

Wonder whether it would be even better in a colour version or not? 

@16.   Christopher Shoup : 

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;@JJA and @Digital Atheist : I think the gap you’re referring to is not a gap in ring material but the gap between the near and far side of the rings. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Hmmm .. I assumed that was the Cassini division myself, or maybe the Encke one but I could be mistaken, naturally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great image. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Wonder whether it would be even better in a colour version or not? </p>
<p>@16.   Christopher Shoup : </p>
<blockquote><p><i>@JJA and @Digital Atheist : I think the gap you’re referring to is not a gap in ring material but the gap between the near and far side of the rings. </i></p></blockquote>
<p>Hmmm .. I assumed that was the Cassini division myself, or maybe the Encke one but I could be mistaken, naturally.</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Atheist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Digital Atheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 01:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Christopher

PFFFT! Any true conspiracy theorist would tell you that not only is there no Titan or Saturn or Cassini, there is no way that any planet could ever have rings or be made mostly of gas/liquid/ice. Anything farther than the Moon is OBVIOUSLY a hoax perpetrated using holgraphic laser technology.</description>
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<p>PFFFT! Any true conspiracy theorist would tell you that not only is there no Titan or Saturn or Cassini, there is no way that any planet could ever have rings or be made mostly of gas/liquid/ice. Anything farther than the Moon is OBVIOUSLY a hoax perpetrated using holgraphic laser technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Shoup</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 01:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@JJA and @Digital Atheist

I think the gap you&#039;re referring to is not a gap in ring material but the gap between the near and far side of the rings. I think the farther left is simply the curve of the ring and thetop part of the &quot;gap&quot; is the near or far part of the rings and the bottom is the opposite as the rings circle the planet. 

If this is the case then it wouldn&#039;t explain the lack of visible bits of Titan through the gap though. 

If I were a conspiracy theorist and not simply a skeptic I&#039;d say this was proof of a bad photoshop job and that there is no such thing as &quot;Cassini&quot; OR this &quot;Saturn&quot; nonsense.</description>
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<p>I think the gap you&#8217;re referring to is not a gap in ring material but the gap between the near and far side of the rings. I think the farther left is simply the curve of the ring and thetop part of the &#8220;gap&#8221; is the near or far part of the rings and the bottom is the opposite as the rings circle the planet. </p>
<p>If this is the case then it wouldn&#8217;t explain the lack of visible bits of Titan through the gap though. </p>
<p>If I were a conspiracy theorist and not simply a skeptic I&#8217;d say this was proof of a bad photoshop job and that there is no such thing as &#8220;Cassini&#8221; OR this &#8220;Saturn&#8221; nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Atheist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Digital Atheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 01:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@JJA 

You may be right as regards haze blocking the view, or mit may be a darker section of ring material? my reasoning for this being a slightly below ring view is the fact that the gap/dark area mid-ring increases as viewed left to right. It would be nice to see the whole uncropped version to see if the gap closes on the right side though.</description>
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<p>You may be right as regards haze blocking the view, or mit may be a darker section of ring material? my reasoning for this being a slightly below ring view is the fact that the gap/dark area mid-ring increases as viewed left to right. It would be nice to see the whole uncropped version to see if the gap closes on the right side though.</p>
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		<title>By: JJA</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 01:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Digital Atheist: If that black stripe were an open gap, one would expect to see a bit of Titan&#039;s surface through it, not so? Perhaps it&#039;s being blocked by the material forming the gray haze around the brighter sections of the ring.

Schuyler:If you look at Titan, you see a predominantly bright area, and when you look at the rings, you see a predominantly black area. I think your iris is adjusting accordingly and this produces the illusion of a receding moon. (Or perhaps it&#039;s a contrast illusion brought about by Titan&#039;s blurry-looking circumference?)

To me, the ring appears slightly bent upwards where it crosses Titan, an effect which I can confirm is an optical illusion by using a straightedge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Digital Atheist: If that black stripe were an open gap, one would expect to see a bit of Titan&#8217;s surface through it, not so? Perhaps it&#8217;s being blocked by the material forming the gray haze around the brighter sections of the ring.</p>
<p>Schuyler:If you look at Titan, you see a predominantly bright area, and when you look at the rings, you see a predominantly black area. I think your iris is adjusting accordingly and this produces the illusion of a receding moon. (Or perhaps it&#8217;s a contrast illusion brought about by Titan&#8217;s blurry-looking circumference?)</p>
<p>To me, the ring appears slightly bent upwards where it crosses Titan, an effect which I can confirm is an optical illusion by using a straightedge.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Shoup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Shoup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 01:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m wondering what Joel is. Is the amount of Titan&#039;s surface which is visible somehow related to the angle at which the camera is observing the moon?</description>
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		<title>By: Schuyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Schuyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me, or is there a bit of an illusion in the photo? Whenever I focus my eyes on the rings, it appears that the moon moves away from me slightly...</description>
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