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		<title>By: Matt B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 21:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we&#039;d been able to send a probe to Neptune on the day it was discovered, it would be done with its parallax survey now, in which a &quot;parsec&quot; equals 99.91 (~100) c-yrs.

And since Uranus takes half as long to orbit the Sun, it should also be in approximately the same place it was when Neptune was discovered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we&#8217;d been able to send a probe to Neptune on the day it was discovered, it would be done with its parallax survey now, in which a &#8220;parsec&#8221; equals 99.91 (~100) c-yrs.</p>
<p>And since Uranus takes half as long to orbit the Sun, it should also be in approximately the same place it was when Neptune was discovered.</p>
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		<title>By: Goodcarver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goodcarver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 14:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful!  So much so that it has become my Desktop background for the present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful!  So much so that it has become my Desktop background for the present.</p>
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		<title>By: smitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>smitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 20:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;On Neptune, I’d only be a little over 3 months old. &quot;

But a Neptunian &quot;month&quot; would be based on Triton&#039;s orbit!  More math needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;On Neptune, I’d only be a little over 3 months old. &#8221;</p>
<p>But a Neptunian &#8220;month&#8221; would be based on Triton&#8217;s orbit!  More math needed.</p>
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		<title>By: DigitalAxis</title>
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		<dc:creator>DigitalAxis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@KenB:

5.9 days, and BACKWARDS.  I love Triton, the cantaloupe world.  We really need to send a Cassini-style orbiter out there.  We really need something more powerful than a radiothermal generator to power it, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@KenB:</p>
<p>5.9 days, and BACKWARDS.  I love Triton, the cantaloupe world.  We really need to send a Cassini-style orbiter out there.  We really need something more powerful than a radiothermal generator to power it, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Captn Tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captn Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is Bary? And what does he have to do with the center of mass?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is Bary? And what does he have to do with the center of mass?</p>
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		<title>By: Svlad Cjelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Svlad Cjelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy new year! =D</description>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say &quot;Neptune was discovered on September 23, 1846 by astronomer Johann Galle using star charts by Johann Encke, and they are generally given credit for it.&quot;

The version I know is that Urbain Le Verrier of France and John Couch Adams of England, who were mathematicians and astronomers, independently predicted the location of the planet by measuring how the gravity of a hypothetical unseen object could affect Uranus&#039;s path.

Le Verrier sent a note describing his predicted location of the new planet to the German astronomer Johann Gottfried Galle at the Berlin Observatory. Over the course of two nights in 1846, Galle found and identified Neptune as a planet, less than a degree from Le Verrier&#039;s predicted position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say &#8220;Neptune was discovered on September 23, 1846 by astronomer Johann Galle using star charts by Johann Encke, and they are generally given credit for it.&#8221;</p>
<p>The version I know is that Urbain Le Verrier of France and John Couch Adams of England, who were mathematicians and astronomers, independently predicted the location of the planet by measuring how the gravity of a hypothetical unseen object could affect Uranus&#8217;s path.</p>
<p>Le Verrier sent a note describing his predicted location of the new planet to the German astronomer Johann Gottfried Galle at the Berlin Observatory. Over the course of two nights in 1846, Galle found and identified Neptune as a planet, less than a degree from Le Verrier&#8217;s predicted position.</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 05:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@31. Ken B : 
 
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Gwif: &quot;So when do we get to celebrate Pluto’s birthday?&quot; 
I don’t know. I’ll have to ask Mickey. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

GDRFC = ??? [Puzzled &amp; curious.]

To answer the original question as asked by (# 25.) Gwif : Pluto was discovered by Clyde Tombaugh in 1930 - Feb. 18th - and takes 248.09 years to complete one orbit. So rounding that figure up to 249 earth years &lt;i&gt;[taps away on calculator]&lt;/i&gt; that would be about the year 2179. :-)

EDIT : Ah, I see (#29.) MattF has given a similar answer too. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@31. Ken B : </p>
<blockquote><p><i>Gwif: &#8220;So when do we get to celebrate Pluto’s birthday?&#8221;<br />
I don’t know. I’ll have to ask Mickey. </i></p></blockquote>
<p>GDRFC = ??? [Puzzled &amp; curious.]</p>
<p>To answer the original question as asked by (# 25.) Gwif : Pluto was discovered by Clyde Tombaugh in 1930 &#8211; Feb. 18th &#8211; and takes 248.09 years to complete one orbit. So rounding that figure up to 249 earth years <i>[taps away on calculator]</i> that would be about the year 2179. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>EDIT : Ah, I see (#29.) MattF has given a similar answer too.</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/07/12/happy-birthday-neptune/comment-page-1/#comment-397557</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 05:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@14. Sean : 

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Messier Tidy Upper: spacecraft have not yet captured a “true” or “natural” image of Neptune. Voyager’s camera was only sensitive out to the orange end of the spectrum, and used orange filters in lieu of red. So it’s color is an approximation on those famous images like at the top of this fine article. Hubble shoots Neptune in near-infrared light where some cloud features become visible. In an eyepiece on a large telescope, the planet often appears dusky-blue to me; not very colorful, but blue nonetheless. Definitely not the vivid blue in the voyager photos.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Thanks I didn&#039;t realise that. Must admit I always thought those were pretty much true colour, as we&#039;d see them unaided eye images. :-) 

@ 21.   Rebecca Harbison :

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt; MTU: 

Also, albedo is subjective when measured by our eyes ..[Snip] .. Neptune also gets less Sun than Uranus does, by virtue of it being further out, so there’s less to reflect — it doesn’t affect the actual albedo, but would affect a brightness measurement. (If a human were out at Neptune, though, his or her eyes would probably adapt.) Google tells me that Neptune’s albedo is about 0.4, which is comparable to Earth’s. Mercury’s is 0.14, so it would be much darker, if you could somehow place them side-by-side. Uranus’s is a bit more reflective (at 0.5), though. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
 
&amp; 

@20. Doug :

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;@Messier Tidy Upper: Wikipedia has the albedo for the planets, both Bond albedo and Geometric .. [snip] .. Neptune and Uranus are somewhat similar, compared to other objects in the solar system. However, Neptune does have the lowest albedo of the gas giants. Mercury, Earth, and Mars have even lower albedo. But it also seems that Neptune’s albedo changes significantly with time.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My thanks go to both of you as well. Much appreciated. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@14. Sean : </p>
<blockquote><p><i>Messier Tidy Upper: spacecraft have not yet captured a “true” or “natural” image of Neptune. Voyager’s camera was only sensitive out to the orange end of the spectrum, and used orange filters in lieu of red. So it’s color is an approximation on those famous images like at the top of this fine article. Hubble shoots Neptune in near-infrared light where some cloud features become visible. In an eyepiece on a large telescope, the planet often appears dusky-blue to me; not very colorful, but blue nonetheless. Definitely not the vivid blue in the voyager photos.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks I didn&#8217;t realise that. Must admit I always thought those were pretty much true colour, as we&#8217;d see them unaided eye images. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>@ 21.   Rebecca Harbison :</p>
<blockquote><p><i> MTU: </p>
<p>Also, albedo is subjective when measured by our eyes ..[Snip] .. Neptune also gets less Sun than Uranus does, by virtue of it being further out, so there’s less to reflect — it doesn’t affect the actual albedo, but would affect a brightness measurement. (If a human were out at Neptune, though, his or her eyes would probably adapt.) Google tells me that Neptune’s albedo is about 0.4, which is comparable to Earth’s. Mercury’s is 0.14, so it would be much darker, if you could somehow place them side-by-side. Uranus’s is a bit more reflective (at 0.5), though. </i></p></blockquote>
<p>&amp; </p>
<p>@20. Doug :</p>
<blockquote><p><i>@Messier Tidy Upper: Wikipedia has the albedo for the planets, both Bond albedo and Geometric .. [snip] .. Neptune and Uranus are somewhat similar, compared to other objects in the solar system. However, Neptune does have the lowest albedo of the gas giants. Mercury, Earth, and Mars have even lower albedo. But it also seems that Neptune’s albedo changes significantly with time.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>My thanks go to both of you as well. Much appreciated. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 01:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came across the anecdote about Galileo seeing Neptune just recently, when I was researching for my upcoming  episode of &lt;i&gt;365 Days of Astronomy&lt;/i&gt; (which airs on August 14). I put it in, unaware that everyone would be talking about it in the intervening month.

Pretty confident you&#039;ll enjoy my episode (it&#039;s got planets in it, surely that&#039;s enough) and am excited about it. Boils down to solar system fundamentals as told by someone who&#039;s not at all accustomed to speaking into a microphone, but lots of fun, especially the thought experiment about dropping the earth into Jupiter. (Spoiler: it breaks apart under tidal forces and looks spectacular.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across the anecdote about Galileo seeing Neptune just recently, when I was researching for my upcoming  episode of <i>365 Days of Astronomy</i> (which airs on August 14). I put it in, unaware that everyone would be talking about it in the intervening month.</p>
<p>Pretty confident you&#8217;ll enjoy my episode (it&#8217;s got planets in it, surely that&#8217;s enough) and am excited about it. Boils down to solar system fundamentals as told by someone who&#8217;s not at all accustomed to speaking into a microphone, but lots of fun, especially the thought experiment about dropping the earth into Jupiter. (Spoiler: it breaks apart under tidal forces and looks spectacular.)</p>
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		<title>By: Cheers, Neptune, on your first &#8216;anniversary&#8217; &#124; Journal of Technology and Economic Development &#124; Future Technology &#124; Green Technology &#124; Military Technology &#124; Business &#124; Trading &#124; Finance &#124; Computer &#124; Robots &#124; Entertainment &#124; Games &#124; GPS &#124; Softw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheers, Neptune, on your first &#8216;anniversary&#8217; &#124; Journal of Technology and Economic Development &#124; Future Technology &#124; Green Technology &#124; Military Technology &#124; Business &#124; Trading &#124; Finance &#124; Computer &#124; Robots &#124; Entertainment &#124; Games &#124; GPS &#124; Softw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 01:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] over the exact time). Galle is credited with its discovery, although Galileo appears to have seen it way back in 1612 and mistaken it for a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Neil NZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil NZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 00:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In New Zealand the date and time is 6:38AM, July 13.</description>
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		<title>By: Sam H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@27
Bob D: Thanks for that :)  . It must be really dim out there, and frozen NO2 is darker than I thought...
How about the planet itself? If it&#039;s that dim would be able to see much detail at all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@27<br />
Bob D: Thanks for that <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   . It must be really dim out there, and frozen NO2 is darker than I thought&#8230;<br />
How about the planet itself? If it&#8217;s that dim would be able to see much detail at all?</p>
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		<title>By: Ken B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gwif:
&lt;blockquote&gt;So when do we get to celebrate Pluto’s birthday?&lt;/blockquote&gt;I don&#039;t know.  I&#039;ll have to ask Mickey.
&lt;GDRFC&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gwif:</p>
<blockquote><p>So when do we get to celebrate Pluto’s birthday?</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t know.  I&#8217;ll have to ask Mickey.<br />
&lt;GDRFC&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Cheers, Neptune, on your first &#8216;anniversary&#8217; &#124; Journal of Technology and Economic Development &#124; Future Technology &#124; Green Technology &#124; Military Technology &#124; Business &#124; Trading &#124; Finance &#124; Computer &#124; Robots &#124; Entertainment &#124; Games &#124; GPS &#124; Softw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheers, Neptune, on your first &#8216;anniversary&#8217; &#124; Journal of Technology and Economic Development &#124; Future Technology &#124; Green Technology &#124; Military Technology &#124; Business &#124; Trading &#124; Finance &#124; Computer &#124; Robots &#124; Entertainment &#124; Games &#124; GPS &#124; Softw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] over the exact time). Galle is credited with its discovery, although Galileo appears to have seen it way back in 1612 and mistaken it for a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MattF</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/07/12/happy-birthday-neptune/comment-page-1/#comment-397436</link>
		<dc:creator>MattF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Gwif&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;i&gt;So when do we get to celebrate Pluto’s birthday?&lt;/i&gt;

2178.</description>
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<p>2178.</p>
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		<title>By: Neptune turns one year old today! &#171; A Word For Science</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neptune turns one year old today! &#171; A Word For Science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Plait, of course, has a detailed analysis of the astronomical gymnastics involved in establishing the precise moment Neptune returned to the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bob D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam H: &quot;If we were floating in the Neptune system, exactly how bright would the sun, moons and the planet itself be to human eyes?&quot;

Sun would be magnitude -19.3, according to Wikipedia, which is 900 times dimmer than the Sun viewed from Earth, but 420 times brighter than our full moon. It would be perhaps twice the angular diameter of Jupiter as viewed from Earth, so probably unrecognizable as a disk. I suspect a point of that kind of intensity would be very uncomfortable to look at.

Triton, however, despite being a similar distance away to our moon and a similar size, would be very dim, with a magnitude of around +3. (It may be the only moon visible to human eyes, with the possible exception of Proteus.)

All assuming you&#039;re on the surface of Neptune and able to see clearly through to space, of course...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam H: &#8220;If we were floating in the Neptune system, exactly how bright would the sun, moons and the planet itself be to human eyes?&#8221;</p>
<p>Sun would be magnitude -19.3, according to Wikipedia, which is 900 times dimmer than the Sun viewed from Earth, but 420 times brighter than our full moon. It would be perhaps twice the angular diameter of Jupiter as viewed from Earth, so probably unrecognizable as a disk. I suspect a point of that kind of intensity would be very uncomfortable to look at.</p>
<p>Triton, however, despite being a similar distance away to our moon and a similar size, would be very dim, with a magnitude of around +3. (It may be the only moon visible to human eyes, with the possible exception of Proteus.)</p>
<p>All assuming you&#8217;re on the surface of Neptune and able to see clearly through to space, of course&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator>NCC-1701Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So how many candles should I put on Neptune&#039;s cake? One, or a 165?</description>
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		<title>By: Gwif</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gwif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So when do we get to celebrate Pluto&#039;s birthday?</description>
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		<title>By: TDL</title>
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		<dc:creator>TDL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Phil
&quot;On Neptune, I’d only be a little over 3 months old. &quot;

On Earth a month is defined roughly by the period for one orbit of our moon around our planet, so on Neptune we would need to consider the orbit of a moon around Neptune...there are thirteen known moons of Neptune, so....oh crap!  :)</description>
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&#8220;On Neptune, I’d only be a little over 3 months old. &#8221;</p>
<p>On Earth a month is defined roughly by the period for one orbit of our moon around our planet, so on Neptune we would need to consider the orbit of a moon around Neptune&#8230;there are thirteen known moons of Neptune, so&#8230;.oh crap!  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sam H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About all these comments on Neptune&#039;s true colour and albedo: If we were floating in the Neptune system, exactly how bright would the sun, moons and the planet itself be to human eyes? The &lt;i&gt;Voyager&lt;/i&gt; photos are obviously brightened (although I never knew they weren&#039;t true colour), so it being dimmer out there would human eyes see as much detail, especially in the case of a major storm such as the Great Dark Spot and the associated white high-altitude clouds? Would the colour differences be more subdued to our eyes? And how about the distant sun? I understand that it would appear as a point, but would it still be too bright to look at? Say, as bright as an arc lamp or an epic flashlight? And how &#039;bout them moons? I&#039;m assuming that the inner moons would appear as VERY faint stars from a distance if you could see them at all (Nereid would probably be invisible if it was anywhere farther away than perigee), but as for Triton - would all that frozen NO₂ boost the moon&#039;s albedo?

/end question rant. And @12 Ken B: On the verge of 17, I can still find SpongeBob quite amusing in its own campy way at times. To some extent you could say it&#039;s the Looney Tunes of our generation (and I&#039;m pretty sure most of that generation are still amused by it even today :))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About all these comments on Neptune&#8217;s true colour and albedo: If we were floating in the Neptune system, exactly how bright would the sun, moons and the planet itself be to human eyes? The <i>Voyager</i> photos are obviously brightened (although I never knew they weren&#8217;t true colour), so it being dimmer out there would human eyes see as much detail, especially in the case of a major storm such as the Great Dark Spot and the associated white high-altitude clouds? Would the colour differences be more subdued to our eyes? And how about the distant sun? I understand that it would appear as a point, but would it still be too bright to look at? Say, as bright as an arc lamp or an epic flashlight? And how &#8217;bout them moons? I&#8217;m assuming that the inner moons would appear as VERY faint stars from a distance if you could see them at all (Nereid would probably be invisible if it was anywhere farther away than perigee), but as for Triton &#8211; would all that frozen NO₂ boost the moon&#8217;s albedo?</p>
<p>/end question rant. And @12 Ken B: On the verge of 17, I can still find SpongeBob quite amusing in its own campy way at times. To some extent you could say it&#8217;s the Looney Tunes of our generation (and I&#8217;m pretty sure most of that generation are still amused by it even today <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: GeekMom &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Happy Birthday, Neptune!</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeekMom &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Happy Birthday, Neptune!</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] birth but the anniversary of it&#8217;s discovery. July 12, 2011 (at 2:38 PM according to one blogger , his article is really in depth) will be exactly one Neptunian year since Neptune was discovered [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] birth but the anniversary of it&#8217;s discovery. July 12, 2011 (at 2:38 PM according to one blogger , his article is really in depth) will be exactly one Neptunian year since Neptune was discovered [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Harbison</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MTU: 

Also, albedo is subjective when measured by our eyes: consider how bright the Moon looks from Earth, while when spacecraft happen to see the Moon and the Earth in the same frame, the Moon is clearly dark gray.   Neptune also gets less Sun than Uranus does, by virtue of it being further out, so there&#039;s less to reflect -- it doesn&#039;t affect the actual albedo, but would affect a brightness measurement.  (If a human were out at Neptune, though, his or her eyes would probably adapt.)

Google tells me that Neptune&#039;s albedo is about 0.4, which is comparable to Earth&#039;s*.  Mercury&#039;s is 0.14, so it would be much darker, if you could somehow place them side-by-side.  Uranus&#039;s is a bit more reflective (at 0.5), though.  

* But probably more uniform, given Earth doesn&#039;t have a global cloud layer.</description>
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<p>Also, albedo is subjective when measured by our eyes: consider how bright the Moon looks from Earth, while when spacecraft happen to see the Moon and the Earth in the same frame, the Moon is clearly dark gray.   Neptune also gets less Sun than Uranus does, by virtue of it being further out, so there&#8217;s less to reflect &#8212; it doesn&#8217;t affect the actual albedo, but would affect a brightness measurement.  (If a human were out at Neptune, though, his or her eyes would probably adapt.)</p>
<p>Google tells me that Neptune&#8217;s albedo is about 0.4, which is comparable to Earth&#8217;s*.  Mercury&#8217;s is 0.14, so it would be much darker, if you could somehow place them side-by-side.  Uranus&#8217;s is a bit more reflective (at 0.5), though.  </p>
<p>* But probably more uniform, given Earth doesn&#8217;t have a global cloud layer.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 15:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Messier Tidy Upper:

Wikipedia has the albedo for the planets, both Bond albedo and Geometric:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_albedo

Neptune and Uranus are somewhat similar, compared to other objects in the solar system.  However, Neptune does have the lowest albedo of the gas giants.  Mercury, Earth, and Mars have even lower albedo.  But it also seems that Neptune&#039;s albedo changes significantly with time.

However, when it comes to temperature, I think internal heat plays more of a factor than distance to the sun and albedo.  The real unknown is what is causing the heating in the first place (my bet is on radioactive decay).

I really hope we send a Cassini-like orbiter to Neptune sometime soon, but there don&#039;t seem to be any plans to do that right now.</description>
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<p>Wikipedia has the albedo for the planets, both Bond albedo and Geometric:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_albedo" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_albedo</a></p>
<p>Neptune and Uranus are somewhat similar, compared to other objects in the solar system.  However, Neptune does have the lowest albedo of the gas giants.  Mercury, Earth, and Mars have even lower albedo.  But it also seems that Neptune&#8217;s albedo changes significantly with time.</p>
<p>However, when it comes to temperature, I think internal heat plays more of a factor than distance to the sun and albedo.  The real unknown is what is causing the heating in the first place (my bet is on radioactive decay).</p>
<p>I really hope we send a Cassini-like orbiter to Neptune sometime soon, but there don&#8217;t seem to be any plans to do that right now.</p>
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