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		<title>By: DrFlimmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrFlimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2011 21:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first I also saw the right facing saber toothed tiger catching its prey. Only later I recognized the left facing dragon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first I also saw the right facing saber toothed tiger catching its prey. Only later I recognized the left facing dragon.</p>
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		<title>By: This week in science &#124; Hotspyer &#8211; Breaking News from around the web</title>
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		<dc:creator>This week in science &#124; Hotspyer &#8211; Breaking News from around the web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2011 17:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have never seen a picture of the sun quite like this. It&#8217;s more like a picture on the [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have never seen a picture of the sun quite like this. It&#8217;s more like a picture on the [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Otto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Otto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2011 15:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A beast facing right, bottom sitting, up on front legs.  As he blows a wisp of smoke at his child sitting up on hind quarters and balancing with his tail.  Father and Sun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A beast facing right, bottom sitting, up on front legs.  As he blows a wisp of smoke at his child sitting up on hind quarters and balancing with his tail.  Father and Sun.</p>
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		<title>By: Austen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2011 11:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always hear the music from &quot;Life on Earth&quot; when I see images like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc2qhUVn8Fc
Having looked at the video again though I realise how much solar photography has improved since the 1970s!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always hear the music from &#8220;Life on Earth&#8221; when I see images like this.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc2qhUVn8Fc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc2qhUVn8Fc</a><br />
Having looked at the video again though I realise how much solar photography has improved since the 1970s!</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/09/02/the-delicate-tendrils-of-a-solar-dragon/#comment-305690</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2011 05:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 11. GT : &lt;i&gt;But of course the Sun has little influence on the climate… /sarc &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It used to - before human climate forcing by greenhouse gas emisions took over. Nowdays not so much.

Watch :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Sf_UIQYc20&amp;list=PL029130BFDC78FA33&amp;index=59&amp;feature=plpp

&amp; this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmGIOMN-F4I

(5 minute 50 sec in esp. in that second one.)

Plus read :

http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming-intermediate.htm

which observes that :

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt; .. after 1975, temperatures rose while solar activity showed little to no long-term trend. This led the study to conclude, &lt;i&gt;&quot;...during these last 30 years the solar total irradiance, solar UV irradiance and cosmic ray flux has not shown any significant secular trend, so that at least this most recent warming episode must have another source.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; In fact, a number of independent measurements of solar activity indicate the sun has shown a slight cooling trend since 1960, over the same period that global temperatures have been warming. Over the last 35 years of global warming, sun and climate have been moving in opposite directions. An analysis of solar trends concluded that the sun has actually contributed a slight cooling influence in recent decades (Lockwood 2008). [Italics original.] &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Incidentally, that&#039;s the second most popular - and long debunked Human Induced Rapid Global Overheating (HIRGO) myth according to the Skeptical Science site. I would recomend checking there &lt;i&gt;(among other places)&lt;/i&gt; before posting any supposed &quot;argument&quot; against the consensus that HIRGO is real and a serious issue because otherwise you risk looking fairly foolish.

Or just stop and think for a second - do you really think climatologists would be so thick that they&#039;d overlook the possible influence of our Sun on our climate?



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 11. GT : <i>But of course the Sun has little influence on the climate… /sarc </i></p>
<p>It used to &#8211; before human climate forcing by greenhouse gas emisions took over. Nowdays not so much.</p>
<p>Watch :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Sf_UIQYc20&#038;list=PL029130BFDC78FA33&#038;index=59&#038;feature=plpp" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Sf_UIQYc20&#038;list=PL029130BFDC78FA33&#038;index=59&#038;feature=plpp</a></p>
<p>&amp; this</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmGIOMN-F4I" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmGIOMN-F4I</a></p>
<p>(5 minute 50 sec in esp. in that second one.)</p>
<p>Plus read :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming-intermediate.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming-intermediate.htm</a></p>
<p>which observes that :</p>
<blockquote><p><i> .. after 1975, temperatures rose while solar activity showed little to no long-term trend. This led the study to conclude, </i><i>&#8220;&#8230;during these last 30 years the solar total irradiance, solar UV irradiance and cosmic ray flux has not shown any significant secular trend, so that at least this most recent warming episode must have another source.&#8221;</i> In fact, a number of independent measurements of solar activity indicate the sun has shown a slight cooling trend since 1960, over the same period that global temperatures have been warming. Over the last 35 years of global warming, sun and climate have been moving in opposite directions. An analysis of solar trends concluded that the sun has actually contributed a slight cooling influence in recent decades (Lockwood 2008). [Italics original.] </p></blockquote>
<p>Incidentally, that&#8217;s the second most popular &#8211; and long debunked Human Induced Rapid Global Overheating (HIRGO) myth according to the Skeptical Science site. I would recomend checking there <i>(among other places)</i> before posting any supposed &#8220;argument&#8221; against the consensus that HIRGO is real and a serious issue because otherwise you risk looking fairly foolish.</p>
<p>Or just stop and think for a second &#8211; do you really think climatologists would be so thick that they&#8217;d overlook the possible influence of our Sun on our climate?</p>
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		<title>By: alfaniner</title>
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		<dc:creator>alfaniner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2011 01:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like the top of my head after a little too much time in 95+ degree heat.</description>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 19:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweet picture and scope.  I have a TeleVue TV-85 and while it is a fine apo refractor in its own right, I can&#039;t but help lusting after the Astro-Physics setup that Alan has!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet picture and scope.  I have a TeleVue TV-85 and while it is a fine apo refractor in its own right, I can&#8217;t but help lusting after the Astro-Physics setup that Alan has!</p>
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		<title>By: TechyDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>TechyDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 18:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Regner Trampedach,

True.  I believe I was trying to explain a &quot;sun explosion&quot; video to him when I got into the complex magnetic fields.  Meanwhile, my 4 year old was insisting that the sun was on fire. ;-)

My other recent science talk with my 8 year old involved the immune system since he was about to  get the flu shot.  I compared it to giving a bunch of police a wanted poster of a bad guy.  Without the wanted poster (vaccine), the police (white blood cells) might not realize that the bad guy (germ/virus) is a bad guy and let him by.  By the time they realize, he&#039;d have multiplied into a thousand bad guys and would be hard to take down.  Instead, they see the bad guy, remember the wanted poster, and take him down quickly.  Of course, my son instantly called the bad guys Doctor Octopus &amp; Venom and the white blood cells Spider-Man.  That only made me prouder of him. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Regner Trampedach,</p>
<p>True.  I believe I was trying to explain a &#8220;sun explosion&#8221; video to him when I got into the complex magnetic fields.  Meanwhile, my 4 year old was insisting that the sun was on fire. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My other recent science talk with my 8 year old involved the immune system since he was about to  get the flu shot.  I compared it to giving a bunch of police a wanted poster of a bad guy.  Without the wanted poster (vaccine), the police (white blood cells) might not realize that the bad guy (germ/virus) is a bad guy and let him by.  By the time they realize, he&#8217;d have multiplied into a thousand bad guys and would be hard to take down.  Instead, they see the bad guy, remember the wanted poster, and take him down quickly.  Of course, my son instantly called the bad guys Doctor Octopus &amp; Venom and the white blood cells Spider-Man.  That only made me prouder of him. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mike burkhart</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike burkhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh NO its GODZILLA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Regner Trampedach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regner Trampedach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post, Phil - Awesome picture Alan! Good on Ya.
&lt;b&gt;TechyDad @ 3:&lt;/b&gt; Your story warms my heart :-)  I have a 5yr daughter and have similar moments with her (less advanced stages yet.. Just getting to general relativity next week ). &lt;b&gt;Nitpick:&lt;/b&gt; It is gravity that confines the plasma of stars. Magnetic fields just messes up the atmosphere above the visible surface, and makes some sun-/star-spots in the surface and sometimes they run solar-/stellar-activity cycles. The surface I talk about is, of course, not solid - it is just a sharp drop in temperature and density which results in most of the light we see to be coming from a 130km thin layer called the photosphere. That layer is only 1/5500 of the radius of the sun - that is why it looks so sharp in pictures.
       Cheers,  Regner</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, Phil &#8211; Awesome picture Alan! Good on Ya.<br />
<b>TechyDad @ 3:</b> Your story warms my heart <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   I have a 5yr daughter and have similar moments with her (less advanced stages yet.. Just getting to general relativity next week ). <b>Nitpick:</b> It is gravity that confines the plasma of stars. Magnetic fields just messes up the atmosphere above the visible surface, and makes some sun-/star-spots in the surface and sometimes they run solar-/stellar-activity cycles. The surface I talk about is, of course, not solid &#8211; it is just a sharp drop in temperature and density which results in most of the light we see to be coming from a 130km thin layer called the photosphere. That layer is only 1/5500 of the radius of the sun &#8211; that is why it looks so sharp in pictures.<br />
       Cheers,  Regner</p>
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