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	<title>Comments on: Happy first day of spring&#8230; Mars!</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Phillip Helbig</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/09/14/happy-first-day-of-spring-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-419920</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Helbig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;&quot;When this happens here on Earth, it’s called the first day of spring (here in the US at least, in other countries it’s considered the middle of the season — a tradition with which I agree). &quot;&lt;/I&gt;

Certainly not in &lt;I&gt;all&lt;/I&gt; other countries.  Off the top of my head, I can&#039;t think of anything.  Yes, Midsummer in Sweden is celebrated on the weekend near the solstice, but in other contexts the seasons there start at the same time as in the US.  What countries are you thinking of?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;When this happens here on Earth, it’s called the first day of spring (here in the US at least, in other countries it’s considered the middle of the season — a tradition with which I agree). &#8220;</i></p>
<p>Certainly not in <i>all</i> other countries.  Off the top of my head, I can&#8217;t think of anything.  Yes, Midsummer in Sweden is celebrated on the weekend near the solstice, but in other contexts the seasons there start at the same time as in the US.  What countries are you thinking of?</p>
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		<title>By: Dragonchild</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/09/14/happy-first-day-of-spring-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-417750</link>
		<dc:creator>Dragonchild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I looked up CO2&#039;s phase diagram and it looks like solid CO2 can form at low pressure (&lt;0.1atm) at about 150K or so.  Bring a sweater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I looked up CO2&#8242;s phase diagram and it looks like solid CO2 can form at low pressure (&lt;0.1atm) at about 150K or so.  Bring a sweater.</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/09/14/happy-first-day-of-spring-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-417656</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt; .. Clytemnestra not-so-much!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not that Clytemnestra was (apparently) physically ugly or anything, mind you, just the whole axe-murderer thing she did. :-o 

Even if she was sorely provoked &amp; Agamemmon kinda deserved his unhappy homecoming. :-(

@22. Dragonchild asks : &lt;I&gt;&quot;Dry ice can form at low atmospheric pressure??&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

Yup - seems so. Martian atmospheric pressure anyhow since it makes up a fair bit of the red planet&#039;s polar &lt;i&gt;(dry &amp; wet)&lt;/i&gt; ice caps. ;-) 

(One sauce for that - Nine Planets (dot) org - linked to my name for this comment.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i> .. Clytemnestra not-so-much!</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Not that Clytemnestra was (apparently) physically ugly or anything, mind you, just the whole axe-murderer thing she did. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':-o' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Even if she was sorely provoked &amp; Agamemmon kinda deserved his unhappy homecoming. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@22. Dragonchild asks : <i>&#8220;Dry ice can form at low atmospheric pressure??&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>Yup &#8211; seems so. Martian atmospheric pressure anyhow since it makes up a fair bit of the red planet&#8217;s polar <i>(dry &amp; wet)</i> ice caps. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>(One sauce for that &#8211; Nine Planets (dot) org &#8211; linked to my name for this comment.)</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/09/14/happy-first-day-of-spring-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-417653</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who may&#039;ve forgotten their Greek mythology see :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clytemnestra 

&amp; 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_of_Troy#Birth 

&amp; 

http://www.ianridpath.com/startales/gemini.htm 

which ties in nicely with the stars Castor &amp; Pollux as well. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who may&#8217;ve forgotten their Greek mythology see :</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clytemnestra" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clytemnestra</a> </p>
<p>&amp; </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_of_Troy#Birth" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_of_Troy#Birth</a> </p>
<p>&amp; </p>
<p><a href="http://www.ianridpath.com/startales/gemini.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ianridpath.com/startales/gemini.htm</a> </p>
<p>which ties in nicely with the stars Castor &amp; Pollux as well. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dragonchild</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/09/14/happy-first-day-of-spring-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-417642</link>
		<dc:creator>Dragonchild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 13:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dry ice can form at low atmospheric pressure??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dry ice can form at low atmospheric pressure??</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/09/14/happy-first-day-of-spring-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-417632</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 11:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;I&gt;So anyway, happy first day of spring, Martians! Don’t forget to try to stand up malagor eggs today.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Hmm .. Not the Princess Helium - Dejah Thoris - eggs? No! :-o 

[Checks&#039; the wiki-link, sighs with relief. Great birds of Barsoom that was a worry for a sec!] 

The most beautiful women always hatch from eggs - just ask Helen of Troy! ;-) 

(Clytemnestra not-so-much! :-o ;-) )  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>So anyway, happy first day of spring, Martians! Don’t forget to try to stand up malagor eggs today.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Hmm .. Not the Princess Helium &#8211; Dejah Thoris &#8211; eggs? No! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':-o' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>[Checks' the wiki-link, sighs with relief. Great birds of Barsoom that was a worry for a sec!] </p>
<p>The most beautiful women always hatch from eggs &#8211; just ask Helen of Troy! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>(Clytemnestra not-so-much! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':-o' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/09/14/happy-first-day-of-spring-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-417631</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 11:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ ^ Mephane : Seconded by me. Great books and interesting - mostly really good and plausible science in them too. :-)


@ 2.   csrster : 
 
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Happy First Day of Autumn and Fair Dinkum’ me ol’ Billabong to any austalo-Martians reading.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Indeed. Don&#039;t forget one hemisphere&#039;s spring is another hemisphere&#039;s autumn. Well spotted csrster. :-) 

Oh &amp; G&#039;day from Down Under / Up Over depending on your Point-o-view! ;-) 

@ 12.   tracer :

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt; .. Mars does one thing the Earth does not: It gets substantially CLOSER to the sun in certain parts of its orbit than in others. It’s orbit is very eccentric. While the the Earth’s aphelion distance is only about 3% farther out than Earth’s perihelion distance, Mars’s aphelion distance is a whopping 20% farther out than Mars’s perhelion distance. .. [Snip] .. Southern seasons on Mars would be like living in the Canadian outback during the dead of winter, then living in the Sahara at the height of summer.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Except far more extreme temps~wise (at the cold temp end anyhow) &amp; without the breathable atmosphere or faintest hint of biosphere. :-o 

Also well spotted. :-)



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ^ Mephane : Seconded by me. Great books and interesting &#8211; mostly really good and plausible science in them too. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@ 2.   csrster : </p>
<blockquote><p><i>Happy First Day of Autumn and Fair Dinkum’ me ol’ Billabong to any austalo-Martians reading.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed. Don&#8217;t forget one hemisphere&#8217;s spring is another hemisphere&#8217;s autumn. Well spotted csrster. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Oh &amp; G&#8217;day from Down Under / Up Over depending on your Point-o-view! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>@ 12.   tracer :</p>
<blockquote><p><i> .. Mars does one thing the Earth does not: It gets substantially CLOSER to the sun in certain parts of its orbit than in others. It’s orbit is very eccentric. While the the Earth’s aphelion distance is only about 3% farther out than Earth’s perihelion distance, Mars’s aphelion distance is a whopping 20% farther out than Mars’s perhelion distance. .. [Snip] .. Southern seasons on Mars would be like living in the Canadian outback during the dead of winter, then living in the Sahara at the height of summer.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Except far more extreme temps~wise (at the cold temp end anyhow) &amp; without the breathable atmosphere or faintest hint of biosphere. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':-o' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Also well spotted. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mephane</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/09/14/happy-first-day-of-spring-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-417601</link>
		<dc:creator>Mephane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 08:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While we are at it, I highly recommend Kim Stanley Robinson&#039;s Mars Trilogy books. It depicts the colonization and terraforming of Mars, while trying to stay as scientifically correct and realistic as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While we are at it, I highly recommend Kim Stanley Robinson&#8217;s Mars Trilogy books. It depicts the colonization and terraforming of Mars, while trying to stay as scientifically correct and realistic as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 08:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So enough frozen co2 sublimates to raise the atmospheric pressure by a whopping  30%  and whiles estimates vary you have seen quotes OF UP TO a few degrees celsius for the temperature rise (due to the greenhouse effect). If those figures are correct seems to point to co2 as a very weak GHG. I would have expected a higher temp rise from the  increase in atmospheric pressure alone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So enough frozen co2 sublimates to raise the atmospheric pressure by a whopping  30%  and whiles estimates vary you have seen quotes OF UP TO a few degrees celsius for the temperature rise (due to the greenhouse effect). If those figures are correct seems to point to co2 as a very weak GHG. I would have expected a higher temp rise from the  increase in atmospheric pressure alone</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Wilco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Wilco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 06:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er, Phil, don&#039;t you still have a post on BA explaining carefully why the equinoxes on Earth should not be considered he first days of spring/autumn. Same for Mars too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er, Phil, don&#8217;t you still have a post on BA explaining carefully why the equinoxes on Earth should not be considered he first days of spring/autumn. Same for Mars too?</p>
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		<title>By: Noel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/09/14/happy-first-day-of-spring-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-417519</link>
		<dc:creator>Noel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 01:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awww!!  Skiing season is over :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awww!!  Skiing season is over <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: &#187; It&#8217;s the First Day of Spring on Mars! Magic and Mayhem</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; It&#8217;s the First Day of Spring on Mars! Magic and Mayhem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 23:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] over to Discover to read [...]</description>
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		<title>By: kiwiMartian</title>
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		<dc:creator>kiwiMartian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 21:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@csrster

Kia ora mate, and thanks. Problem is here in the southern hemisphere we&#039;re experiencing spring right now and heading into summer. So happy first day of autumn to you cobber!</description>
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<p>Kia ora mate, and thanks. Problem is here in the southern hemisphere we&#8217;re experiencing spring right now and heading into summer. So happy first day of autumn to you cobber!</p>
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		<title>By: Jess Tauber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess Tauber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given the lower gravity and different surface area of Mars, how much gas would have to be added to the planet to give it an approximation of earth atmospheric pressure at human-livable temperatures? And if that added gas were all frozen into a ball (say some moon or outer solar system object) what would its radius be? We could &#039;just&#039; (devil in the details) dump one of these onto Mars- the heat from impact would nicely warm the planet. Beats the heck out of waiting forever using slower processes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the lower gravity and different surface area of Mars, how much gas would have to be added to the planet to give it an approximation of earth atmospheric pressure at human-livable temperatures? And if that added gas were all frozen into a ball (say some moon or outer solar system object) what would its radius be? We could &#8216;just&#8217; (devil in the details) dump one of these onto Mars- the heat from impact would nicely warm the planet. Beats the heck out of waiting forever using slower processes.</p>
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		<title>By: tracer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/09/14/happy-first-day-of-spring-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-417424</link>
		<dc:creator>tracer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Martian seasons are not only opposite of each other in the two hemispheres, they&#039;re of vastly different severity.

Mars does one thing the Earth does not:  It gets substantially CLOSER to the sun in certain parts of its orbit than in others.  It&#039;s orbit is very eccentric.  While the the Earth&#039;s aphelion distance is only about 3% farther out than Earth&#039;s perihelion distance, Mars&#039;s aphelion distance is a whopping 20% farther out than Mars&#039;s perhelion distance.

As on Earth, Martian perihelion corresponds very closely with the Northern Hemisphere&#039;s Winter Solstice.  This means that the Winters and Summers in the Northern hemisphere of Mars are pretty mild, but the Winters and Summers in the Southern hemisphere of Mars are made vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly more severe.

Southern seasons on Mars would be like living in the Canadian outback during the dead of winter, then living in the Sahara at the height of summer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Martian seasons are not only opposite of each other in the two hemispheres, they&#8217;re of vastly different severity.</p>
<p>Mars does one thing the Earth does not:  It gets substantially CLOSER to the sun in certain parts of its orbit than in others.  It&#8217;s orbit is very eccentric.  While the the Earth&#8217;s aphelion distance is only about 3% farther out than Earth&#8217;s perihelion distance, Mars&#8217;s aphelion distance is a whopping 20% farther out than Mars&#8217;s perhelion distance.</p>
<p>As on Earth, Martian perihelion corresponds very closely with the Northern Hemisphere&#8217;s Winter Solstice.  This means that the Winters and Summers in the Northern hemisphere of Mars are pretty mild, but the Winters and Summers in the Southern hemisphere of Mars are made vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly more severe.</p>
<p>Southern seasons on Mars would be like living in the Canadian outback during the dead of winter, then living in the Sahara at the height of summer.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems pretty straight forward to get water for humans there. Just add heat. What useful things could we do with all that CO2? Compressed gas vehicles?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems pretty straight forward to get water for humans there. Just add heat. What useful things could we do with all that CO2? Compressed gas vehicles?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kevbo to say nothing of which direction you&#039;d have to point in to face Mecca. There could be a new market for prayer ramps at different angles to ensure the correct angle of genuflection...</description>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/09/14/happy-first-day-of-spring-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-417387</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nuts, that means I caught it on the last day of northern winter:
http://masil-astro-imaging.netfirms.com/SWI/Mars%2011-09-13%20955-RGB.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nuts, that means I caught it on the last day of northern winter:<br />
<a href="http://masil-astro-imaging.netfirms.com/SWI/Mars%2011-09-13%20955-RGB.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://masil-astro-imaging.netfirms.com/SWI/Mars%2011-09-13%20955-RGB.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/09/14/happy-first-day-of-spring-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-417385</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kevbo
I can hear the conversation now
Child: &quot;Mom, it&#039;s Christmas on Earth, why don&#039;t I get any presents?&quot;
Mom: &quot;Honey, Santa can only come to Mars every 2 Earth years because we are so far away.&quot;
Child: &quot;I hate Mars&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kevbo<br />
I can hear the conversation now<br />
Child: &#8220;Mom, it&#8217;s Christmas on Earth, why don&#8217;t I get any presents?&#8221;<br />
Mom: &#8220;Honey, Santa can only come to Mars every 2 Earth years because we are so far away.&#8221;<br />
Child: &#8220;I hate Mars&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Hemo_jr</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/09/14/happy-first-day-of-spring-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-417383</link>
		<dc:creator>Hemo_jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spring on Barsoom!  The Princess will be most pleased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spring on Barsoom!  The Princess will be most pleased.</p>
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		<title>By: kevbo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/09/14/happy-first-day-of-spring-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-417361</link>
		<dc:creator>kevbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we aver finally settled on Mars, assuming religion followed us there, I wonder how long it would take until terrestrial-based religious observances would be abandoned in favor of Mars-based dates...
That is, I&#039;m making an assumption that humans would revert to &#039;annual&#039; observances based on the local year, being the pagan creatures we are.
Maybe then, with Christmas, Easter, Ramadan, etc decoupled from Earth&#039;s, Martian society would become distinct from Earth. 

Maybe someones written a book about this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we aver finally settled on Mars, assuming religion followed us there, I wonder how long it would take until terrestrial-based religious observances would be abandoned in favor of Mars-based dates&#8230;<br />
That is, I&#8217;m making an assumption that humans would revert to &#8216;annual&#8217; observances based on the local year, being the pagan creatures we are.<br />
Maybe then, with Christmas, Easter, Ramadan, etc decoupled from Earth&#8217;s, Martian society would become distinct from Earth. </p>
<p>Maybe someones written a book about this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/09/14/happy-first-day-of-spring-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-417357</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, you should be more careful with your urban legends.  I remember reading somewhere that you can balance malagor eggs on Mars on any day.  If I find the reference, I&#039;ll send it to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, you should be more careful with your urban legends.  I remember reading somewhere that you can balance malagor eggs on Mars on any day.  If I find the reference, I&#8217;ll send it to you.</p>
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		<title>By: chrifpa</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/09/14/happy-first-day-of-spring-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-417345</link>
		<dc:creator>chrifpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;CO2 turns directly from a solid into a gas (a process called sublimation), and does so at much lower temperature than water ice melts.&quot;

I think what you meant was higher temperatures, not lower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;CO2 turns directly from a solid into a gas (a process called sublimation), and does so at much lower temperature than water ice melts.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think what you meant was higher temperatures, not lower.</p>
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		<title>By: Orlando</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/09/14/happy-first-day-of-spring-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-417344</link>
		<dc:creator>Orlando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, spring on Mars! Dry ice sublimes, atmospheric pressure increases, methane appears... maybe some water flows... Nice time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, spring on Mars! Dry ice sublimes, atmospheric pressure increases, methane appears&#8230; maybe some water flows&#8230; Nice time!</p>
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		<title>By: csrster</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/09/14/happy-first-day-of-spring-mars/comment-page-1/#comment-417339</link>
		<dc:creator>csrster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy First Day of Autumn and Fair Dinkum&#039; me ol&#039; Billabong to any austalo-Martians reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy First Day of Autumn and Fair Dinkum&#8217; me ol&#8217; Billabong to any austalo-Martians reading.</p>
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