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		<title>By: Matt B.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/10/11/distant-full-moon-tonight/#comment-310970</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not just a 10% difference, it&#039;s 13.5%, making a 27% difference in brightness. Note: I&#039;m using a logarithmic percent difference here [Log%Δ = 100*ln(x/y)].</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not just a 10% difference, it&#8217;s 13.5%, making a 27% difference in brightness. Note: I&#8217;m using a logarithmic percent difference here [Log%Δ = 100*ln(x/y)].</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Bishop</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/10/11/distant-full-moon-tonight/#comment-310969</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@17 Digital Axis  Thank you so much!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@17 Digital Axis  Thank you so much!!</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/10/11/distant-full-moon-tonight/#comment-310968</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 02:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BA has now got a whole thread up reviewing &lt;i&gt;Terra Nova&lt;/i&gt; esp. its &quot;close Moon&quot; aspect which is now linked to my name here.

Or cut &amp; paste :

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Bad Astronomy review: Terra Nova&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

into your search box if that link fails.

It was posted on October 17th, 2011 at 6:30 AM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BA has now got a whole thread up reviewing <i>Terra Nova</i> esp. its &#8220;close Moon&#8221; aspect which is now linked to my name here.</p>
<p>Or cut &amp; paste :</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Bad Astronomy review: Terra Nova</i></p></blockquote>
<p>into your search box if that link fails.</p>
<p>It was posted on October 17th, 2011 at 6:30 AM.</p>
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		<title>By: Bad Astronomy review: Terra Nova &#124; Alkaon Network</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/10/11/distant-full-moon-tonight/#comment-310967</link>
		<dc:creator>Bad Astronomy review: Terra Nova &#124; Alkaon Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 01:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] note that the Moon orbits the Earth in an ellipse, and so sometimes is closer to us than other times. In fact, the Moon ranges in distance over the course of an orbit by about 50,000 km, far more than [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] note that the Moon orbits the Earth in an ellipse, and so sometimes is closer to us than other times. In fact, the Moon ranges in distance over the course of an orbit by about 50,000 km, far more than [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/10/11/distant-full-moon-tonight/#comment-310966</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Neil - Yes, sorry! That wasn&#039;t a very good statement, but I missed the edit window. The next &lt;b&gt;Full Moon&lt;/b&gt; perigee is May 2012. My previous comment is proof of why you should never comment from a smart phone - too easy to take a shortcut! :)

@Steve - If you follow Phil&#039;s link to the moon calculator, you will see the apogee and perigee vary each month. As Pete Jackson said, it has to do with the fact that the sun does interact (weakly) with the moon. There is also the fact that the earth is not stationary relative to the moon either. The earth has to orbit the sun so when the moon is &quot;behind&quot; the earth it has to than &quot;catch up&quot; and when it is &quot;in front&quot; of the earth it gains back that distance it lost. Also the earth does not orbit the sun at a constant velocity because its orbit is also an ellipse, so Kepler&#039;s laws dictate here. (I know, some physicists are going to yell at me because this isn&#039;t a technically robust explanation, but I&#039;m just trying to get the principle there).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Neil &#8211; Yes, sorry! That wasn&#8217;t a very good statement, but I missed the edit window. The next <b>Full Moon</b> perigee is May 2012. My previous comment is proof of why you should never comment from a smart phone &#8211; too easy to take a shortcut! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Steve &#8211; If you follow Phil&#8217;s link to the moon calculator, you will see the apogee and perigee vary each month. As Pete Jackson said, it has to do with the fact that the sun does interact (weakly) with the moon. There is also the fact that the earth is not stationary relative to the moon either. The earth has to orbit the sun so when the moon is &#8220;behind&#8221; the earth it has to than &#8220;catch up&#8221; and when it is &#8220;in front&#8221; of the earth it gains back that distance it lost. Also the earth does not orbit the sun at a constant velocity because its orbit is also an ellipse, so Kepler&#8217;s laws dictate here. (I know, some physicists are going to yell at me because this isn&#8217;t a technically robust explanation, but I&#8217;m just trying to get the principle there).</p>
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		<title>By: tracer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/10/11/distant-full-moon-tonight/#comment-310965</link>
		<dc:creator>tracer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, a crescent moon IS part of the symbol of Islam....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, a crescent moon IS part of the symbol of Islam&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/10/11/distant-full-moon-tonight/#comment-310964</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ ^ DigitalAxis :

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Phil has occasionally posted pictures taken by talented “amateurs” of the extremely thin crescents just after New Moon, but those shots are extremely difficult to take.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;


You mean like this post here? :

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/05/newest-of-new-moons/

Which is updated here :

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/07/update-on-record-crescent-moon-sighting/

(The link added to that first story doesn&#039;t seem to be working, btw.)

Plus this one :

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/04/21/record-breaker-newest-new-moon-spotted/

for instance?  :-)

Guess we could call that a &quot;Cheshire Cat Moon&quot; - our Moon when its nothing but a faint smile line - to go with the &quot;Lemon Slice Moon&quot; phase.

*****

PS. Click on my name for a &quot;Lemon Slice Moon&quot; photo  - glad I&#039;m not the only one to think of our Moon like that in that phase &amp; that someone else is good enough to capture that &amp; put it on flickr. Thanks Owen Christopher Wolter. :-) ) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ^ DigitalAxis :</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Phil has occasionally posted pictures taken by talented “amateurs” of the extremely thin crescents just after New Moon, but those shots are extremely difficult to take.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>You mean like this post here? :</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/05/newest-of-new-moons/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/05/newest-of-new-moons/</a></p>
<p>Which is updated here :</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/07/update-on-record-crescent-moon-sighting/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/07/update-on-record-crescent-moon-sighting/</a></p>
<p>(The link added to that first story doesn&#8217;t seem to be working, btw.)</p>
<p>Plus this one :</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/04/21/record-breaker-newest-new-moon-spotted/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/04/21/record-breaker-newest-new-moon-spotted/</a></p>
<p>for instance?  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Guess we could call that a &#8220;Cheshire Cat Moon&#8221; &#8211; our Moon when its nothing but a faint smile line &#8211; to go with the &#8220;Lemon Slice Moon&#8221; phase.</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p>PS. Click on my name for a &#8220;Lemon Slice Moon&#8221; photo  &#8211; glad I&#8217;m not the only one to think of our Moon like that in that phase &amp; that someone else is good enough to capture that &amp; put it on flickr. Thanks Owen Christopher Wolter. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) </p>
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		<title>By: DigitalAxis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/10/11/distant-full-moon-tonight/#comment-310963</link>
		<dc:creator>DigitalAxis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@16 Lee Bishop:

Technically, yes.  The moment of New Moon is when the Moon passes between the Earth and the Sun (not exactly, though; so it&#039;s rarely a solar eclipse, of course).  For half the planet, it will be night-time at that moment, and neither the Moon nor the Sun will be visible because they&#039;re both on the other side of the planet.  New Moons are indeed only visible during the day.

The United States Naval Observatory has a page on those here:
http://aa.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/aa_moonphases.pl?year=2011&amp;ZZZ=END
Notice that the New Moon on November 25th 2011 will happen at 06:10 UT, which means if you&#039;re on the East Coast of the US (EST = UT-5), it&#039;ll happen at 1:10 AM.  Or maybe EST is UT-4, in which case it&#039;ll happen at 2:10 AM; I always forget.  Either way, it happens at night.

Of course, if you&#039;re not as neurotically precise as USNO, we consider the entire DAY that includes the New Moon to be &quot;New Moon&quot;, so you can see it later in the day on the 25th.  There won&#039;t be much to see though.  Phil has occasionally posted pictures taken by talented &quot;amateurs&quot; of the extremely thin crescents just after New Moon, but those shots are extremely difficult to take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@16 Lee Bishop:</p>
<p>Technically, yes.  The moment of New Moon is when the Moon passes between the Earth and the Sun (not exactly, though; so it&#8217;s rarely a solar eclipse, of course).  For half the planet, it will be night-time at that moment, and neither the Moon nor the Sun will be visible because they&#8217;re both on the other side of the planet.  New Moons are indeed only visible during the day.</p>
<p>The United States Naval Observatory has a page on those here:<br />
<a href="http://aa.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/aa_moonphases.pl?year=2011&#038;ZZZ=END" rel="nofollow">http://aa.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/aa_moonphases.pl?year=2011&#038;ZZZ=END</a><br />
Notice that the New Moon on November 25th 2011 will happen at 06:10 UT, which means if you&#8217;re on the East Coast of the US (EST = UT-5), it&#8217;ll happen at 1:10 AM.  Or maybe EST is UT-4, in which case it&#8217;ll happen at 2:10 AM; I always forget.  Either way, it happens at night.</p>
<p>Of course, if you&#8217;re not as neurotically precise as USNO, we consider the entire DAY that includes the New Moon to be &#8220;New Moon&#8221;, so you can see it later in the day on the 25th.  There won&#8217;t be much to see though.  Phil has occasionally posted pictures taken by talented &#8220;amateurs&#8221; of the extremely thin crescents just after New Moon, but those shots are extremely difficult to take.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Bishop</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/10/11/distant-full-moon-tonight/#comment-310962</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a new moon occurs when the sun is behind the moon from our viewpoint, do new moons ever occur during the night-time?  It seems for the sun to be behind the moon from our viewpoint, that new moon would only be visible to us during the daytime.  I&#039;ve wondered about this for so long, please help!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a new moon occurs when the sun is behind the moon from our viewpoint, do new moons ever occur during the night-time?  It seems for the sun to be behind the moon from our viewpoint, that new moon would only be visible to us during the daytime.  I&#8217;ve wondered about this for so long, please help!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Haggath</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/10/11/distant-full-moon-tonight/#comment-310961</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Haggath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 11:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#4 Eric:
I assume you mean the next &lt;i&gt;full Moon at perigee&lt;/i&gt; is in May 2012. The Moon is at its perigee every 27.5 days.

#2 Pete Jackson:
&quot;So a perigee full moon in January will be 28% brighter than an apogee full moon in July. Getting to be quite a difference!&quot;

Yes, but since our eyes response to light level is logarithmic, the difference still isn&#039;t all that apparent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#4 Eric:<br />
I assume you mean the next <i>full Moon at perigee</i> is in May 2012. The Moon is at its perigee every 27.5 days.</p>
<p>#2 Pete Jackson:<br />
&#8220;So a perigee full moon in January will be 28% brighter than an apogee full moon in July. Getting to be quite a difference!&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, but since our eyes response to light level is logarithmic, the difference still isn&#8217;t all that apparent.</p>
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