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		<title>By: Carol James</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/11/01/you-could-use-facts-to-prove-anything-thats-even-remotely-true/#comment-313042</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 18:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I happened to turn on CNN during Obama&#039;s speech from the Rose Garden on the afternoon of Monday, Nov. 7, 2011.  Obama said he submitted a bill  to Congress in September to give businesses tax break incentives to hire veterans but Republicans voted it down (possibly it was part of the larger jobs bill at that time), but  Congress will be given a second chance to vote on the veterans element this week.  The bill will cost the U.S. nothing but will help put returning veterans back to work.  My husband viewed Obama&#039;s speech on CNN&#039;s web site Tuesday, Nov. 8.  However, today we can&#039;t find it in the CNN web site, &quot;Politics&quot; section.  In fact, I saw no further news coverage about his speech.  I hoped The Daily Show would talk about  it, but Jon Stewart did not mention it Monday or Tuesday.  I would like to get a message to Jon Stewart in case he simply missed this speech that was so poorly covered by &quot;news&quot; stations.  If you know how to contact The Daily Show, please let me know,  Thanks, Carol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I happened to turn on CNN during Obama&#8217;s speech from the Rose Garden on the afternoon of Monday, Nov. 7, 2011.  Obama said he submitted a bill  to Congress in September to give businesses tax break incentives to hire veterans but Republicans voted it down (possibly it was part of the larger jobs bill at that time), but  Congress will be given a second chance to vote on the veterans element this week.  The bill will cost the U.S. nothing but will help put returning veterans back to work.  My husband viewed Obama&#8217;s speech on CNN&#8217;s web site Tuesday, Nov. 8.  However, today we can&#8217;t find it in the CNN web site, &#8220;Politics&#8221; section.  In fact, I saw no further news coverage about his speech.  I hoped The Daily Show would talk about  it, but Jon Stewart did not mention it Monday or Tuesday.  I would like to get a message to Jon Stewart in case he simply missed this speech that was so poorly covered by &#8220;news&#8221; stations.  If you know how to contact The Daily Show, please let me know,  Thanks, Carol</p>
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		<title>By: Anchor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anchor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@49MKS, who says, &quot;Oh Phil, I hope you haven’t joined the True Forces of Darkness, those who get wet when they attack certain thoughts or worldviews instead of just concentrating on being a good human being and doing good &amp; fun science. Being a real human deserves more than Stalinization (science, too).&quot;

Well, as long as those &quot;certain thoughts or worldviews&quot; of others do not interfere with the rest of us trying our best &quot;being a good human being...doing good &amp; fun science&quot;, even you might acknowledge you may have missed the target of your incindiary &quot;Stalinization&quot; aim by a wide margin, or I will submit you haven&#039;t a clue about what being a &quot;real human deserves&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@49MKS, who says, &#8220;Oh Phil, I hope you haven’t joined the True Forces of Darkness, those who get wet when they attack certain thoughts or worldviews instead of just concentrating on being a good human being and doing good &amp; fun science. Being a real human deserves more than Stalinization (science, too).&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, as long as those &#8220;certain thoughts or worldviews&#8221; of others do not interfere with the rest of us trying our best &#8220;being a good human being&#8230;doing good &amp; fun science&#8221;, even you might acknowledge you may have missed the target of your incindiary &#8220;Stalinization&#8221; aim by a wide margin, or I will submit you haven&#8217;t a clue about what being a &#8220;real human deserves&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anchor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anchor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s fascinating to see retorts from people of a certain and very strongly held political persuasion who are so willing to automatically presume that the segments involving that horribly stupid woman were somehow edited to enhance her stupidity.

Oh yes, by CONTEXT the idiocy is heightened (which is why the satire works so well) but this sequence is by no means inaccurate.

The truth - and natural reality - can be unpleasant only to those who have been indoctrinated to deny it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s fascinating to see retorts from people of a certain and very strongly held political persuasion who are so willing to automatically presume that the segments involving that horribly stupid woman were somehow edited to enhance her stupidity.</p>
<p>Oh yes, by CONTEXT the idiocy is heightened (which is why the satire works so well) but this sequence is by no means inaccurate.</p>
<p>The truth &#8211; and natural reality &#8211; can be unpleasant only to those who have been indoctrinated to deny it.</p>
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		<title>By: icemith</title>
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		<dc:creator>icemith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surprised that some were not able to watch video. Was OK here in Australia, and I am using Safari, of course on a Mac. But it wasn&#039;t the fastest loading.

Ivan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surprised that some were not able to watch video. Was OK here in Australia, and I am using Safari, of course on a Mac. But it wasn&#8217;t the fastest loading.</p>
<p>Ivan.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 12:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ozonator (55) said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Attacking the blogger and not the science is the 1 step sciency method of extremist Republicans and Christians:
PayasYouStargaze
flip
Joseph G&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah?  Show us your science - using coherent English, if you are able - and we&#039;ll assess it on its merits.

Continue to blather incoherently and we&#039;ll laugh and point as before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ozonator (55) said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Attacking the blogger and not the science is the 1 step sciency method of extremist Republicans and Christians:<br />
PayasYouStargaze<br />
flip<br />
Joseph G</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah?  Show us your science &#8211; using coherent English, if you are able &#8211; and we&#8217;ll assess it on its merits.</p>
<p>Continue to blather incoherently and we&#8217;ll laugh and point as before.</p>
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		<title>By: PayasYouStargaze</title>
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		<dc:creator>PayasYouStargaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 10:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Joseph G and flip:

I&#039;m also an atheist and not American, and would tend to lean to the left of the political spectrum. If I attacked it it was only on its inability to use language to present its ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joseph G and flip:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also an atheist and not American, and would tend to lean to the left of the political spectrum. If I attacked it it was only on its inability to use language to present its ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Debra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to Steve Metzler @14 for posting the Vimeo link</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Steve Metzler @14 for posting the Vimeo link</p>
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		<title>By: flip</title>
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		<dc:creator>flip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with you Joseph G. My favourite bit is that I can&#039;t even attack the science, given that I have no idea what or if there is any science to his rants. Or maybe the bit where I point out that I&#039;m an artist, therefore have very little ability to attack the science anyway (but have every bit of background to attack the way he *doesn&#039;t* use language that&#039;s comprehensible. Or is it the bit where I&#039;m not American, atheist, and have voted to the left of my country&#039;s version of the Democrats...

I think he goes into the &#039;not even wrong&#039; pile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with you Joseph G. My favourite bit is that I can&#8217;t even attack the science, given that I have no idea what or if there is any science to his rants. Or maybe the bit where I point out that I&#8217;m an artist, therefore have very little ability to attack the science anyway (but have every bit of background to attack the way he *doesn&#8217;t* use language that&#8217;s comprehensible. Or is it the bit where I&#8217;m not American, atheist, and have voted to the left of my country&#8217;s version of the Democrats&#8230;</p>
<p>I think he goes into the &#8216;not even wrong&#8217; pile.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bahahaha.  I actually rated the bot&#039;s notice.  I feel strangely honored.
Note that I am neither Republican nor Christian, nor did I attack the blogger or even disagree with him.  Fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bahahaha.  I actually rated the bot&#8217;s notice.  I feel strangely honored.<br />
Note that I am neither Republican nor Christian, nor did I attack the blogger or even disagree with him.  Fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Ozonator aka Robert Rhodes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ozonator aka Robert Rhodes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 00:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Attacking the blogger and not the science is the 1 step sciency method of extremist Republicans and Christians:
PayasYouStargaze
flip
Joseph G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attacking the blogger and not the science is the 1 step sciency method of extremist Republicans and Christians:<br />
PayasYouStargaze<br />
flip<br />
Joseph G</p>
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