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	<title>Comments on: HUGE sunspots turning toward Earth</title>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/11/06/huge-sunspots-turning-toward-earth/#comment-313666</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@23. reidh : Please  see :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Sf_UIQYc20&amp;list=PL029130BFDC78FA33&amp;index=62&amp;feature=plpp_video

&amp;

http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm

&amp;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5hs4KVeiAU&amp;feature=results_video&amp;playnext=1&amp;list=PL7550BB4DE820C2C0

Please. Really. I&#039;m asking nicely.
Plus ask yourself this basic question :

Do you honestly think that climatologists would overlook the influence of our Sun and fail to take solar insolation into account when studying Global Overheating? Honestly???

Just how dumb do you think they all are?

Did you know our Sun has only just come out of one of the lowest &amp; most prolonged minima on record - but global average temperatures &lt;i&gt;(as confirmed by numerous &lt;b&gt;multiple &lt;/b&gt;studies and numerous  &lt;b&gt;multiple&lt;/b&gt; data sets incl. now Muller&#039;s BEST one)&lt;/i&gt; have still risen and 2010 was the hottest year on record?   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@23. reidh : Please  see :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Sf_UIQYc20&#038;list=PL029130BFDC78FA33&#038;index=62&#038;feature=plpp_video" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Sf_UIQYc20&#038;list=PL029130BFDC78FA33&#038;index=62&#038;feature=plpp_video</a></p>
<p>&amp;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm</a></p>
<p>&amp;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5hs4KVeiAU&#038;feature=results_video&#038;playnext=1&#038;list=PL7550BB4DE820C2C0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5hs4KVeiAU&#038;feature=results_video&#038;playnext=1&#038;list=PL7550BB4DE820C2C0</a></p>
<p>Please. Really. I&#8217;m asking nicely.<br />
Plus ask yourself this basic question :</p>
<p>Do you honestly think that climatologists would overlook the influence of our Sun and fail to take solar insolation into account when studying Global Overheating? Honestly???</p>
<p>Just how dumb do you think they all are?</p>
<p>Did you know our Sun has only just come out of one of the lowest &amp; most prolonged minima on record &#8211; but global average temperatures <i>(as confirmed by numerous <b>multiple </b>studies and numerous  <b>multiple</b> data sets incl. now Muller&#8217;s BEST one)</i> have still risen and 2010 was the hottest year on record?   </p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 20:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are wonderful pictures of a massive sunspot group. I&#039;ve taken many sunspot pictures but none approach the detail I see here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are wonderful pictures of a massive sunspot group. I&#8217;ve taken many sunspot pictures but none approach the detail I see here.</p>
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		<title>By: reidh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/11/06/huge-sunspots-turning-toward-earth/#comment-313664</link>
		<dc:creator>reidh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 18:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote:  &quot;On November 3rd they popped off a pretty big X 1.9 class flare&quot;
None of which could possibly contribute to a rise in the overall temperature at the earth&#039;s surface! its the cows man, don&#039;t blame the Sun. Its our friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote:  &#8220;On November 3rd they popped off a pretty big X 1.9 class flare&#8221;<br />
None of which could possibly contribute to a rise in the overall temperature at the earth&#8217;s surface! its the cows man, don&#8217;t blame the Sun. Its our friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 18:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@19 Gary Ansorge:  I wonder if intelligent beings on such a planet with frequent large solar storms could use inductive current as a &lt;i&gt;source&lt;/i&gt; of power?  And it&#039;s possible that they simply wouldn&#039;t develop large, distributed power grids, but generate power relatively locally.

@21 WJM:  Pretty cool, eh?  I remember the first time I did that.  I had a tiny old 2&quot; refractor, more of a &quot;ship&#039;s spyglass,&quot; really, and I duct-taped it to a camera tripod and  used it to project an image of a solar eclipse on the fence behind my house.  It was like 3 feet across! Completely blew my freakin&#039; mind.  Interestingly, the part that really grabbed my attention wasn&#039;t the eclipse, but the sunspots I could see...
That&#039;s the cool thing about the sun, it&#039;s not exactly tough to capture light from it* ;)

*It goes without saying that no one should ever, ever look through a telescope pointed at the sun, even with filters, unless you have purpose-made filters and you really know exactly what you&#039;re doing.  I&#039;m sure everyone here knows that, but it doesn&#039;t hurt to say it yet again  :-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@19 Gary Ansorge:  I wonder if intelligent beings on such a planet with frequent large solar storms could use inductive current as a <i>source</i> of power?  And it&#8217;s possible that they simply wouldn&#8217;t develop large, distributed power grids, but generate power relatively locally.</p>
<p>@21 WJM:  Pretty cool, eh?  I remember the first time I did that.  I had a tiny old 2&#8243; refractor, more of a &#8220;ship&#8217;s spyglass,&#8221; really, and I duct-taped it to a camera tripod and  used it to project an image of a solar eclipse on the fence behind my house.  It was like 3 feet across! Completely blew my freakin&#8217; mind.  Interestingly, the part that really grabbed my attention wasn&#8217;t the eclipse, but the sunspots I could see&#8230;<br />
That&#8217;s the cool thing about the sun, it&#8217;s not exactly tough to capture light from it* <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>*It goes without saying that no one should ever, ever look through a telescope pointed at the sun, even with filters, unless you have purpose-made filters and you really know exactly what you&#8217;re doing.  I&#8217;m sure everyone here knows that, but it doesn&#8217;t hurt to say it yet again  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: WJM</title>
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		<dc:creator>WJM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 16:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just projected the sun onto a sheet of white paper, through the little bird-spotting scope I bought at a garage sale this summer.

HOLY GWONGA BONGA BAZONGA-DONGA.

It makes you feel like part of the solar system to be able to &quot;see&quot; this right on your living room floor here on Earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just projected the sun onto a sheet of white paper, through the little bird-spotting scope I bought at a garage sale this summer.</p>
<p>HOLY GWONGA BONGA BAZONGA-DONGA.</p>
<p>It makes you feel like part of the solar system to be able to &#8220;see&#8221; this right on your living room floor here on Earth.</p>
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		<title>By: alfaniner</title>
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		<dc:creator>alfaniner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 14:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t it be cool if this thing swung around and zapped that approaching asteroid with a CME?  I might have to give some more thought to how the Universe works if that happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be cool if this thing swung around and zapped that approaching asteroid with a CME?  I might have to give some more thought to how the Universe works if that happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/11/06/huge-sunspots-turning-toward-earth/#comment-313660</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 13:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>,,,and just think, red dwarf stars are much more active than this. I wonder how a civilization could even develop on a planet of such a star, with inductive overloads occurring at random in your telegraph systems. Ok, eventually &quot;they&quot; might figure out how to harden their systems but the expense might well make such systems impractical.

,,and the Pony Express remains the only viable rapid info transmission system,,,

,,,ok, maybe I WILL write such a story,,,but first, more coffee,,,

Gary 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>,,,and just think, red dwarf stars are much more active than this. I wonder how a civilization could even develop on a planet of such a star, with inductive overloads occurring at random in your telegraph systems. Ok, eventually &#8220;they&#8221; might figure out how to harden their systems but the expense might well make such systems impractical.</p>
<p>,,and the Pony Express remains the only viable rapid info transmission system,,,</p>
<p>,,,ok, maybe I WILL write such a story,,,but first, more coffee,,,</p>
<p>Gary 7</p>
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		<title>By: hhEb09'1</title>
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		<dc:creator>hhEb09'1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 11:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The STEREO satellites cover the full surface of the sun, no?  The wiki page says they will, until a short time in 2015.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STEREO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The STEREO satellites cover the full surface of the sun, no?  The wiki page says they will, until a short time in 2015.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STEREO" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STEREO</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stathis Dimopoulos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stathis Dimopoulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 08:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps it&#039;s a good time for the scientific community to consider a 360 deg monitoring of the Sun. Three or possibly 4 satellites will do the trick. These should be orbiting Sun of course. The project is easily &quot;sellable&quot; to international telecoms &amp; energy production companies ( to finance it ) . Can you imagine the effect of CME like the one from 1859 hitting us today ? Its like EMP weapons exploding outside earth&#039;s atmosphere. All civilian satellites will be either destroyed or will enter &quot;safe mode&quot; .A great amount of today&#039;s electronics will be &quot;fried&quot;. The rest that will survive ,  unless rad-hardened,  will produce a big amount of errors. Most PC&#039;s will be unable to work, almost all forms of wireless transmissions will be affected. To give you an example of the intensity of the 1859 event , telegraph paper was set on fire by the sparks of the inductive currents produced by the storm , and the current was high enough to allow telegraph to operate without external power. Last but not least think the effect on the ISS and other orbiting manned space vehicles .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s a good time for the scientific community to consider a 360 deg monitoring of the Sun. Three or possibly 4 satellites will do the trick. These should be orbiting Sun of course. The project is easily &#8220;sellable&#8221; to international telecoms &amp; energy production companies ( to finance it ) . Can you imagine the effect of CME like the one from 1859 hitting us today ? Its like EMP weapons exploding outside earth&#8217;s atmosphere. All civilian satellites will be either destroyed or will enter &#8220;safe mode&#8221; .A great amount of today&#8217;s electronics will be &#8220;fried&#8221;. The rest that will survive ,  unless rad-hardened,  will produce a big amount of errors. Most PC&#8217;s will be unable to work, almost all forms of wireless transmissions will be affected. To give you an example of the intensity of the 1859 event , telegraph paper was set on fire by the sparks of the inductive currents produced by the storm , and the current was high enough to allow telegraph to operate without external power. Last but not least think the effect on the ISS and other orbiting manned space vehicles .</p>
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		<title>By: Peter B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 02:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gordon Knott @ #13 said: &quot;The radiation physics fallacy of a manned mission to Mars...&quot;

What would be fallacious about it?

&quot;...is set to be eloquently professed by ISS FUBAR asstronaughts.&quot;

Could you expand on that statement please?

&quot;Do you like your brave space voyagers served medium or well-done? Radiation cataracts are the NASA-admitted default for all of them even during a quiet sun.&quot;

Are you saying there&#039;s no possible protection against this radiation? Are you saying all astronauts have experienced cataracts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gordon Knott @ #13 said: &#8220;The radiation physics fallacy of a manned mission to Mars&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>What would be fallacious about it?</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;is set to be eloquently professed by ISS FUBAR asstronaughts.&#8221;</p>
<p>Could you expand on that statement please?</p>
<p>&#8220;Do you like your brave space voyagers served medium or well-done? Radiation cataracts are the NASA-admitted default for all of them even during a quiet sun.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you saying there&#8217;s no possible protection against this radiation? Are you saying all astronauts have experienced cataracts?</p>
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