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	<title>Comments on: Phobos-Grunt scheduled to launch at 20:16 UT</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Blargh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blargh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 20:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, it looks like Phobos-Grunt is now &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.russianspaceweb.com/phobos_grunt_launch.html#11_10&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;beyond rescue&lt;/a&gt;. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, it looks like Phobos-Grunt is now <a href="http://www.russianspaceweb.com/phobos_grunt_launch.html#11_10" rel="nofollow">beyond rescue</a>. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Blargh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blargh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 20:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 34.   ceramicfundamentalist
&lt;blockquote&gt;Some sources are saying “Crippled Russian space probe could crash back to Earth” and “most toxic falling satellite ever”. Any thoughts, Phil, on when exactly we should begin to panic?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Most toxic falling satellite ever? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.space4peace.org/ianus/npsm3.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I doubt it.&lt;/a&gt;
(Read up on Kosmos 954 in particular)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 34.   ceramicfundamentalist</p>
<blockquote><p>Some sources are saying “Crippled Russian space probe could crash back to Earth” and “most toxic falling satellite ever”. Any thoughts, Phil, on when exactly we should begin to panic?</p></blockquote>
<p>Most toxic falling satellite ever? <a href="http://www.space4peace.org/ianus/npsm3.htm" rel="nofollow">I doubt it.</a><br />
(Read up on Kosmos 954 in particular)</p>
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		<title>By: CraterJoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>CraterJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 19:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toxic Satellite + Extremophile Microbes + solar radiation = Zombie Apocalypse.</description>
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		<title>By: alfaniner</title>
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		<dc:creator>alfaniner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 19:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t be the only one that thinks &quot;Phobos Grunt&quot; makes a great band name?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t be the only one that thinks &#8220;Phobos Grunt&#8221; makes a great band name?</p>
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		<title>By: mikie burkhart</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikie burkhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 18:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good this will put an end to what the UFO crowd thinks about Mars two moons : that they are artifical satellites launched by Martians. You know I&#039;d like to stand on Mars at night and see two moons in the sky ,may be some future space probe could get a photo of the night sky on Mars with its two moons. Lets take it up with NASA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good this will put an end to what the UFO crowd thinks about Mars two moons : that they are artifical satellites launched by Martians. You know I&#8217;d like to stand on Mars at night and see two moons in the sky ,may be some future space probe could get a photo of the night sky on Mars with its two moons. Lets take it up with NASA.</p>
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		<title>By: zadoc</title>
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		<dc:creator>zadoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 18:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>POLL: Will Russia be able to save the Mars Phobos-Grunt probe?
Vote: http://www.wepolls.com/p/4857067

I seriously doubt it, but I really hope they can. The idea of a return mission from Phobos is really exciting to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>POLL: Will Russia be able to save the Mars Phobos-Grunt probe?<br />
Vote: <a href="http://www.wepolls.com/p/4857067" rel="nofollow">http://www.wepolls.com/p/4857067</a></p>
<p>I seriously doubt it, but I really hope they can. The idea of a return mission from Phobos is really exciting to me.</p>
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		<title>By: ceramicfundamentalist</title>
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		<dc:creator>ceramicfundamentalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 16:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some sources are saying &quot;Crippled Russian space probe could crash back to Earth&quot; and &quot;most toxic falling satellite ever&quot;.  Any thoughts, Phil, on when exactly we should begin to panic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some sources are saying &#8220;Crippled Russian space probe could crash back to Earth&#8221; and &#8220;most toxic falling satellite ever&#8221;.  Any thoughts, Phil, on when exactly we should begin to panic?</p>
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		<title>By: drbubbles</title>
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		<dc:creator>drbubbles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  believe this maintains a 100% failure rate for Phobos-destined (wholly or in part) missions. Because that is so statistically unlikely, the only logical explanation is that space aliens are interfering with Phobos missions in order to protect the secret space-alien secrets to be found there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  believe this maintains a 100% failure rate for Phobos-destined (wholly or in part) missions. Because that is so statistically unlikely, the only logical explanation is that space aliens are interfering with Phobos missions in order to protect the secret space-alien secrets to be found there.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another update from Russianspaceweb:

&quot;At 16:35 Moscow Time (7:35 EST), a poster on Astronomy.ru web forum reported that new attempts to escape Earth orbit would be conducted between 03:00 and 05:00 Moscow Time on Thursday, November 10 (6 p.m. - 8 p.m. EST on Wednesday). According to Interfax news agency, Phobos-Grunt was expected to enter the range of Russian ground control stations at around 21:30 Moscow Time (12:30 p.m. EST), however only a ground station in Baikonur was equipped to downlink all necessary telemetry data and transmit new commands for the upcoming maneuver.&quot;

Wish them luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another update from Russianspaceweb:</p>
<p>&#8220;At 16:35 Moscow Time (7:35 EST), a poster on Astronomy.ru web forum reported that new attempts to escape Earth orbit would be conducted between 03:00 and 05:00 Moscow Time on Thursday, November 10 (6 p.m. &#8211; 8 p.m. EST on Wednesday). According to Interfax news agency, Phobos-Grunt was expected to enter the range of Russian ground control stations at around 21:30 Moscow Time (12:30 p.m. EST), however only a ground station in Baikonur was equipped to downlink all necessary telemetry data and transmit new commands for the upcoming maneuver.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wish them luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave Shaw (2) said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Dr. Plait,
A question about the image: There appear to be a variety of linear striations across the surface of the moon. What causes these? Some are vertical while others are horizontal. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

The BA said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;. . . its surface is weird, as you can see in the picture above. It’s lined with grooves, which may have formed when asteroid impacts on Mars below blasted up material, which the tiny rock then plowed through. That’s still being argued about. A sample return might help resolve issues like that (for example, finding clear evidence of Martian minerals in Phobos samples).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Er, Dave, you &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; read the OP, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Shaw (2) said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Dr. Plait,<br />
A question about the image: There appear to be a variety of linear striations across the surface of the moon. What causes these? Some are vertical while others are horizontal. </p></blockquote>
<p>The BA said:</p>
<blockquote><p>. . . its surface is weird, as you can see in the picture above. It’s lined with grooves, which may have formed when asteroid impacts on Mars below blasted up material, which the tiny rock then plowed through. That’s still being argued about. A sample return might help resolve issues like that (for example, finding clear evidence of Martian minerals in Phobos samples).</p></blockquote>
<p>Er, Dave, you <i>did</i> read the OP, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Blargh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blargh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:(

At least it&#039;s managed to orient its solar panels towards the sun and is charging its batteries. That buys Roscosmos/Lavochkin/IKI RAN some time to fix the issue.</description>
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<p>At least it&#8217;s managed to orient its solar panels towards the sun and is charging its batteries. That buys Roscosmos/Lavochkin/IKI RAN some time to fix the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: captain swoop</title>
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		<dc:creator>captain swoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So that&#039;s about 16 attempts by Russia since the 60s to have a Mars mission that works completely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So that&#8217;s about 16 attempts by Russia since the 60s to have a Mars mission that works completely.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update from Russianspaceweb:

&quot;On November 9, at 01:17 Moscow Time, a project representative reported that telemetry from the spacecraft had been received, confirming that onboard batteries had been recharging and the spacecraft had been oriented toward the Sun. Russian military tracking assets and NASA ground facilities were reportedly involved in the mission.

November 9 operations

Only on the afternoon, November 9, Roskosmos issued an official press-release stating that two first post-launch contacts with the spacecraft had showed normal operations of the spacecraft according to the flight plan. However engine firings planned beyond the range of ground stations did not take place. Currently, all necessary parameters of the spacecraft motion had been determined, the statement said, however due to low orbit of the spacecraft it would not reenter the range of Russian ground stations until 23:00 Moscow Time (14:00 EST) on November 9. Based on the analysis of data, Roskosmos promised to prepare and upload onboard all necessary commands for the resumption of orbital maneuvers. Most importantly, the agency assured that a more accurate estimate of the mission&#039;s orbital parameters and power supplies onboard the spacecraft had provided two weeks for the transmission of new instructions to Phobos-Grunt.&quot;

Link: http://www.russianspaceweb.com/phobos_grunt_launch.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update from Russianspaceweb:</p>
<p>&#8220;On November 9, at 01:17 Moscow Time, a project representative reported that telemetry from the spacecraft had been received, confirming that onboard batteries had been recharging and the spacecraft had been oriented toward the Sun. Russian military tracking assets and NASA ground facilities were reportedly involved in the mission.</p>
<p>November 9 operations</p>
<p>Only on the afternoon, November 9, Roskosmos issued an official press-release stating that two first post-launch contacts with the spacecraft had showed normal operations of the spacecraft according to the flight plan. However engine firings planned beyond the range of ground stations did not take place. Currently, all necessary parameters of the spacecraft motion had been determined, the statement said, however due to low orbit of the spacecraft it would not reenter the range of Russian ground stations until 23:00 Moscow Time (14:00 EST) on November 9. Based on the analysis of data, Roskosmos promised to prepare and upload onboard all necessary commands for the resumption of orbital maneuvers. Most importantly, the agency assured that a more accurate estimate of the mission&#8217;s orbital parameters and power supplies onboard the spacecraft had provided two weeks for the transmission of new instructions to Phobos-Grunt.&#8221;</p>
<p>Link: <a href="http://www.russianspaceweb.com/phobos_grunt_launch.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.russianspaceweb.com/phobos_grunt_launch.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: IW</title>
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		<dc:creator>IW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Grunt is still in trouble as of this morning.  It&#039;s yet another case of the Russian space program running into trouble when trying to get to Mars.  As others have indicated it&#039;s apparently a software issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Grunt is still in trouble as of this morning.  It&#8217;s yet another case of the Russian space program running into trouble when trying to get to Mars.  As others have indicated it&#8217;s apparently a software issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Richie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/11/08/phobos-grunt-scheduled-to-launch-at-2016-ut/comment-page-1/#comment-438186</link>
		<dc:creator>Richie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Marvin the Martian himself says:  &quot;Where&#039;s the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Marvin the Martian himself says:  &#8220;Where&#8217;s the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Infinite123Lifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Infinite123Lifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 07:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For 21:

Though operating a starship while drinking alcohol maybe fun! It is not allowed Wzrd1.  Galactic penal code 180P.R.00.F clearly states this.  Two warp drives have been deducted from your credit.

Now lets get some software and hardware up and running :) or in this case, out of orbit and flying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For 21:</p>
<p>Though operating a starship while drinking alcohol maybe fun! It is not allowed Wzrd1.  Galactic penal code 180P.R.00.F clearly states this.  Two warp drives have been deducted from your credit.</p>
<p>Now lets get some software and hardware up and running <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  or in this case, out of orbit and flying.</p>
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		<title>By: Wzrd1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wzrd1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, ellindsey! Now, hopefully, they don&#039;t PMP Pro it into a failure...  :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, ellindsey! Now, hopefully, they don&#8217;t PMP Pro it into a failure&#8230;  :/</p>
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		<title>By: ellindsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 03:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Latest word from interfax is that the probe failed to make the booster burn because of a sensor problem.  They have three days to upload new software and try again before the batteries go dead.  This might still be salvageable.

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&amp;tl=en&amp;js=n&amp;prev=_t&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;layout=2&amp;eotf=1&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.interfax.ru%2Fsociety%2Fnews.asp%3Fid%3D215883</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Latest word from interfax is that the probe failed to make the booster burn because of a sensor problem.  They have three days to upload new software and try again before the batteries go dead.  This might still be salvageable.</p>
<p><a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&#038;tl=en&#038;js=n&#038;prev=_t&#038;hl=en&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;layout=2&#038;eotf=1&#038;u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.interfax.ru%2Fsociety%2Fnews.asp%3Fid%3D215883" rel="nofollow">http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&#038;tl=en&#038;js=n&#038;prev=_t&#038;hl=en&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;layout=2&#038;eotf=1&#038;u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.interfax.ru%2Fsociety%2Fnews.asp%3Fid%3D215883</a></p>
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		<title>By: MichaelL</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 02:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully, the Galactic Ghoul doesn&#039;t get it before it arrives!

oops! It appears that may be the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully, the Galactic Ghoul doesn&#8217;t get it before it arrives!</p>
<p>oops! It appears that may be the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Wzrd1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wzrd1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 02:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw, crapmuffins! Hope they can get the probe to wake up and burn at the right time to still complete its mission.   :(

As for the irregular scratch at that odd angle, I was hoping nobody noticed that fender bender... I was taking my turn at the helm of the USS Boobyprize and kind of sideswiped the moon while orbiting Mars. Damned thing swerved right into my path, I swear!
There goes my starship pilot insurance rates through the roof!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw, crapmuffins! Hope they can get the probe to wake up and burn at the right time to still complete its mission.   <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As for the irregular scratch at that odd angle, I was hoping nobody noticed that fender bender&#8230; I was taking my turn at the helm of the USS Boobyprize and kind of sideswiped the moon while orbiting Mars. Damned thing swerved right into my path, I swear!<br />
There goes my starship pilot insurance rates through the roof!</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 01:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ ^  ellindsey : Oh Nyet! That sucks. :-( 

If that&#039;s correct then my commiserations and sympathies go to all those involved. 

*****

Thinking Mars missions it&#039;s  getting near time for the launch of the &lt;i&gt;Curiousity&lt;/i&gt; rover - formerly known as the Mars Science laboratory or MSL - now too. 

That&#039;s been shifted onto the launch pad in readiness already according to the NASA website - click on my name here for source. 

Liftoff is scheduled for November 25th. Just 16 days, 55 minutes, 25 seconds till go for that one. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ^  ellindsey : Oh Nyet! That sucks. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>If that&#8217;s correct then my commiserations and sympathies go to all those involved. </p>
<p>*****</p>
<p>Thinking Mars missions it&#8217;s  getting near time for the launch of the <i>Curiousity</i> rover &#8211; formerly known as the Mars Science laboratory or MSL &#8211; now too. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s been shifted onto the launch pad in readiness already according to the NASA website &#8211; click on my name here for source. </p>
<p>Liftoff is scheduled for November 25th. Just 16 days, 55 minutes, 25 seconds till go for that one. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ellindsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 01:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Latest word is that the (first?  second?) engine burn has not occurred (the probe is still in the pre-burn orbit) and they have lost telemetry from the probe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Latest word is that the (first?  second?) engine burn has not occurred (the probe is still in the pre-burn orbit) and they have lost telemetry from the probe.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 00:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may have spoken too soon. Indications surfacing that the escape burn failed and it is still in parking orbit around Earth. Roscosmos has been silent for a few hours now, no update.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may have spoken too soon. Indications surfacing that the escape burn failed and it is still in parking orbit around Earth. Roscosmos has been silent for a few hours now, no update.</p>
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		<title>By: Infinite123Lifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Infinite123Lifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 23:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Phobos is not dense/massive enough to attain a sphere shaped body? I believe it is called hydrostatic equilibrium?

Also, is it absurd to think that the striations could come from interstellar travel &quot;winds?&quot; creating grooves where lightly packed material is then &quot;blown off&quot;?

I was thinking that if many objects form together to make a larger object then there is going to be different materials of different consistencies.  This could leave dusty borders (so to speak) which then could be blown off by simply traveling through space.  Although I guess we would not get such a linear pattern of the grooves. 

However, thinking that collisions formed these striations would assume that a body was constantly in contact with the surface of Phobos to create such a linear groove.  (perhaps under this reasoning the gravity of Phobos is able to keep a body &#039;touching&#039; its surface as it skims over it and creates these grooves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Phobos is not dense/massive enough to attain a sphere shaped body? I believe it is called hydrostatic equilibrium?</p>
<p>Also, is it absurd to think that the striations could come from interstellar travel &#8220;winds?&#8221; creating grooves where lightly packed material is then &#8220;blown off&#8221;?</p>
<p>I was thinking that if many objects form together to make a larger object then there is going to be different materials of different consistencies.  This could leave dusty borders (so to speak) which then could be blown off by simply traveling through space.  Although I guess we would not get such a linear pattern of the grooves. </p>
<p>However, thinking that collisions formed these striations would assume that a body was constantly in contact with the surface of Phobos to create such a linear groove.  (perhaps under this reasoning the gravity of Phobos is able to keep a body &#8216;touching&#8217; its surface as it skims over it and creates these grooves.</p>
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		<title>By: David in England</title>
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		<dc:creator>David in England</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure hope it doesn&#039;t have a space-rage incident with 2005 YU55.....</description>
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