Comments on: A public letter to the US Government upon the passing of NDAA http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/12/19/a-public-letter-to-the-us-government-upon-the-passing-of-ndaa/ Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:12:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Carl http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/12/19/a-public-letter-to-the-us-government-upon-the-passing-of-ndaa/#comment-317701 Carl Mon, 09 Jan 2012 02:19:55 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/?p=42121#comment-317701 alright some things Phil says is true but some is not one they can only snatch you right off the street or out of your house if they suspect you to be a terrorist and also 1031 and 1032 are both nullified by the contradiction the NDAA which says that anyone who is suspected of being a terrorist can be compounded and arrested and never to see a fair trial. Also in these they can torture and most likely do torture those they suspect and as Ron Paul stated that our government is not under torturing someone if it means getting answers that may just be false. You may read and be fed lies but truly read the entire thing and see how the protection of citizens from this new acts gets contradicted. This act that is passed can destroy this country but.. this act is only for the physical year therefore next year it would most likely be removed do to its unconstitutional conduct. alright some things Phil says is true but some is not one they can only snatch you right off the street or out of your house if they suspect you to be a terrorist and also 1031 and 1032 are both nullified by the contradiction the NDAA which says that anyone who is suspected of being a terrorist can be compounded and arrested and never to see a fair trial. Also in these they can torture and most likely do torture those they suspect and as Ron Paul stated that our government is not under torturing someone if it means getting answers that may just be false. You may read and be fed lies but truly read the entire thing and see how the protection of citizens from this new acts gets contradicted. This act that is passed can destroy this country but.. this act is only for the physical year therefore next year it would most likely be removed do to its unconstitutional conduct.

]]> By: Shahid Buttar http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/12/19/a-public-letter-to-the-us-government-upon-the-passing-of-ndaa/#comment-317700 Shahid Buttar Tue, 03 Jan 2012 18:25:45 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/?p=42121#comment-317700 There are lots of opportunities to defend the rule of law and restore the right to trial in 2012. Read about early efforts, as well as further analysis of the constitutional catastrophe wrought by the NDAA, at http://www.constitutioncampaign.org/blog/?p=5307. There are lots of opportunities to defend the rule of law and restore the right to trial in 2012. Read about early efforts, as well as further analysis of the constitutional catastrophe wrought by the NDAA, at http://www.constitutioncampaign.org/blog/?p=5307.

]]> By: Grandpaspeaks http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/12/19/a-public-letter-to-the-us-government-upon-the-passing-of-ndaa/#comment-317699 Grandpaspeaks Tue, 03 Jan 2012 17:02:22 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/?p=42121#comment-317699 Get ready for the next move. Kissinger once quipped "Control the oil and you control countries, control the food and you control the people" To all the naysayers who think this will not apply to US citizens, the Homeland definition of a potential terrorist is one with 7 days or more of food stored. Residential centers are already stocked. To all the oathkeepers, there are overt and covert domestic enemies. McVey was an overt terrorist and the previous system seemed to deal with him. Now, with the NDAA passed by Obama, it is imperative to correctly identify the covert domestic enemies of the Constitution. The system is now prepared for a violent revolution with the continuation of government plans to introduce a new bill of rights and suspend the constitution. Violence will not be the way. We have already been out manouvered. The vote in November will be our last chance to get it right. Get it wrong and it my be the last X you mark. Get ready for the next move. Kissinger once quipped “Control the oil and you control countries, control the food and you control the people” To all the naysayers who think this will not apply to US citizens, the Homeland definition of a potential terrorist is one with 7 days or more of food stored. Residential centers are already stocked. To all the oathkeepers, there are overt and covert domestic enemies. McVey was an overt terrorist and the previous system seemed to deal with him. Now, with the NDAA passed by Obama, it is imperative to correctly identify the covert domestic enemies of the Constitution. The system is now prepared for a violent revolution with the continuation of government plans to introduce a new bill of rights and suspend the constitution. Violence will not be the way. We have already been out manouvered. The vote in November will be our last chance to get it right. Get it wrong and it my be the last X you mark.

]]> By: Ramon http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/12/19/a-public-letter-to-the-us-government-upon-the-passing-of-ndaa/#comment-317698 Ramon Mon, 02 Jan 2012 17:41:29 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/?p=42121#comment-317698 To David Musick and others: A great explanation of the bill's language can be found here: http://verdict.justia.com/2011/12/21/the-national-defense-authorization-act-explained To David Musick and others: A great explanation of the bill’s language can be found here:

http://verdict.justia.com/2011/12/21/the-national-defense-authorization-act-explained

]]> By: Sue http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/12/19/a-public-letter-to-the-us-government-upon-the-passing-of-ndaa/#comment-317697 Sue Mon, 02 Jan 2012 00:37:01 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/?p=42121#comment-317697 I wish your assurances made me feel relieved, however, the ACLU seems concerned, too, and I think I'll take their concern over your confidence our President will not take action against it's citizens with murky wording in a 5,000 page bill. Feinstein's amendment to expunge this small paragraph allowing our President to indefinitely detain us was roundly defeated. I don't feel so good. Like my Rights as an American citizen are being violated. Bells going off. I wish your assurances made me feel relieved, however, the ACLU seems concerned, too, and I think I’ll take their concern over your confidence our President will not take action against it’s citizens with murky wording in a 5,000 page bill. Feinstein’s amendment to expunge this small paragraph allowing our President to indefinitely detain us was roundly defeated. I don’t feel so good. Like my Rights as an American citizen are being violated. Bells going off.

]]> By: Sue http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/12/19/a-public-letter-to-the-us-government-upon-the-passing-of-ndaa/#comment-317696 Sue Sun, 01 Jan 2012 23:49:29 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/?p=42121#comment-317696 First, this act is not radical far right-wing policy. On that I most adamantly disagree with you. Conservatives believe in the Constitution. This is directly AGAINST the Constitution. This is facism. I urge everyone to contact the ACLU who (I pray) will fight this on behalf of the American people. This part of the bill MUST be expunged and ruled unconstitutional. First, this act is not radical far right-wing policy. On that I most adamantly disagree with you. Conservatives believe in the Constitution. This is directly AGAINST the Constitution. This is facism. I urge everyone to contact the ACLU who (I pray) will fight this on behalf of the American people. This part of the bill MUST be expunged and ruled unconstitutional.

]]> By: Project Freedom » Ron Paul On The NDAA. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/12/19/a-public-letter-to-the-us-government-upon-the-passing-of-ndaa/#comment-317695 Project Freedom » Ron Paul On The NDAA. Thu, 29 Dec 2011 23:01:52 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/?p=42121#comment-317695 [...] to support Dr. Paul. 12/27/11: Dr. Phil Plait (aka The Bad Astronomer) provides an excellent critique of the NDAA. Superb [...] [...] to support Dr. Paul. 12/27/11: Dr. Phil Plait (aka The Bad Astronomer) provides an excellent critique of the NDAA. Superb [...]

]]> By: If You Don’t Vote, Then You Don’t Have the Right To Complain « The Laughing Flapper http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/12/19/a-public-letter-to-the-us-government-upon-the-passing-of-ndaa/#comment-317694 If You Don’t Vote, Then You Don’t Have the Right To Complain « The Laughing Flapper Tue, 27 Dec 2011 15:19:14 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/?p=42121#comment-317694 [...] A public letter to the US Government upon the passing of NDAA | Bad Astronomy (blogs.discovermagazine.com) [...] [...] A public letter to the US Government upon the passing of NDAA | Bad Astronomy (blogs.discovermagazine.com) [...]

]]> By: Obama NDAA OK Draws OccupyMN Protest At Obama Reelection HQ | Occupy Cyberspace – American Autumn http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/12/19/a-public-letter-to-the-us-government-upon-the-passing-of-ndaa/#comment-317693 Obama NDAA OK Draws OccupyMN Protest At Obama Reelection HQ | Occupy Cyberspace – American Autumn Tue, 27 Dec 2011 11:20:57 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/?p=42121#comment-317693 [...] A public letter to the US Government upon the passing of NDAA | Bad Astronomy (blogs.discovermagazine.com) [...] [...] A public letter to the US Government upon the passing of NDAA | Bad Astronomy (blogs.discovermagazine.com) [...]

]]> By: Ron Christian http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/12/19/a-public-letter-to-the-us-government-upon-the-passing-of-ndaa/#comment-317692 Ron Christian Mon, 26 Dec 2011 23:37:31 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/?p=42121#comment-317692 I've been an attorney for 20 years. I can read a piece of legislation. It's official. Our supposedly elected, supposed representatives just abolished the Constitution. No, they did not repeal any part of it. They didn't need to. They just made it "legal" to make anyone who disagrees with them disappear ("belligerent act"). The worst part is that, like the author of this letter, I too am actually wondering what particular list I am being placed on for speaking out about it. Americans should not have to feel that way, ever. I have never before been ashamed to have spent my working life in the law. But, I am now. The social contract is broken; the rule of law is dead. Without them, we are doomed to become nothing but a giant Somalia. We had better start marching in the streets now, or we will be fighting in them soon. I don't know about the people in other states. But, the people in my state will not stand for this. This is the seedling of revolution. I’ve been an attorney for 20 years. I can read a piece of legislation. It’s official. Our supposedly elected, supposed representatives just abolished the Constitution. No, they did not repeal any part of it. They didn’t need to. They just made it “legal” to make anyone who disagrees with them disappear (“belligerent act”). The worst part is that, like the author of this letter, I too am actually wondering what particular list I am being placed on for speaking out about it. Americans should not have to feel that way, ever. I have never before been ashamed to have spent my working life in the law. But, I am now. The social contract is broken; the rule of law is dead. Without them, we are doomed to become nothing but a giant Somalia. We had better start marching in the streets now, or we will be fighting in them soon. I don’t know about the people in other states. But, the people in my state will not stand for this. This is the seedling of revolution.

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