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	<title>Comments on: SOPA and PIPA</title>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/01/18/sopa-and-pipa/#comment-320165</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phillip Helbig (102) said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;OK, so do the right thing and support the good proposals and criticize the bad. Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater and go with the folks who think that it is a human right to be able to download any creative work without paying for it in anyway and who claim that everything (including, say, snuff child pornography) should be protected because it is free speech.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Irrelevant.

The recent increase in the fuss that the music and movie industries are making about IP is purely about maximising profit, and nothing else.  They don&#039;t care a tinker&#039;s cuss for the struggling artist who &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; needs protection.

What we do not need is legislation that would allow scenarios like the following to occur:  Imagine a creative artist making a collage of various odds and ends, one piece of which they did not obtain permission to use.  Imagine if that artist posted their work on flickr.  SOPA or PIPA would allow the copyright owner to have the entire flickr site taken off line for hosting one piece of illegally-used material.  This is just plain wrong.  Sure, we can hope that such disproportionate responses won&#039;t happen, but the point is that this legislation would make it possible and enforceable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phillip Helbig (102) said:</p>
<blockquote><p>OK, so do the right thing and support the good proposals and criticize the bad. Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater and go with the folks who think that it is a human right to be able to download any creative work without paying for it in anyway and who claim that everything (including, say, snuff child pornography) should be protected because it is free speech.</p></blockquote>
<p>Irrelevant.</p>
<p>The recent increase in the fuss that the music and movie industries are making about IP is purely about maximising profit, and nothing else.  They don&#8217;t care a tinker&#8217;s cuss for the struggling artist who <i>really</i> needs protection.</p>
<p>What we do not need is legislation that would allow scenarios like the following to occur:  Imagine a creative artist making a collage of various odds and ends, one piece of which they did not obtain permission to use.  Imagine if that artist posted their work on flickr.  SOPA or PIPA would allow the copyright owner to have the entire flickr site taken off line for hosting one piece of illegally-used material.  This is just plain wrong.  Sure, we can hope that such disproportionate responses won&#8217;t happen, but the point is that this legislation would make it possible and enforceable.</p>
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		<title>By: Free Zumba Online</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/01/18/sopa-and-pipa/#comment-320164</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Zumba Online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 00:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thread.. I had to scan it twice to understand it all though, haha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thread.. I had to scan it twice to understand it all though, haha!</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Helbig</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/01/18/sopa-and-pipa/#comment-320163</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Helbig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 18:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;She is right that we need a better way to find and prosecute (or at least stop) that sort of thing, and as far as I can tell SOPA would in fact stop what happened to her. Unfortunately, it does far, far more.&lt;/I&gt;

OK, so do the right thing and support the good proposals and criticize the bad.  Don&#039;t throw the baby out with the bathwater and go with the folks who think that it is a human right to be able to download any creative work without paying for it in anyway and who claim that everything (including, say, snuff child pornography) should be protected because it is free speech.

&lt;I&gt;I do not and cannot trust this government — or any that may follow — to use this kind of power judiciously.&lt;/I&gt;

While that might be true, keep in mind that a government evil enough to abuse such power would be evil enough to do the same damage without the backing of any law at all.  In other words, if you have to protect yourself from your own government, you have already lost and all the bloggers in the country won&#039;t make any difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>She is right that we need a better way to find and prosecute (or at least stop) that sort of thing, and as far as I can tell SOPA would in fact stop what happened to her. Unfortunately, it does far, far more.</i></p>
<p>OK, so do the right thing and support the good proposals and criticize the bad.  Don&#8217;t throw the baby out with the bathwater and go with the folks who think that it is a human right to be able to download any creative work without paying for it in anyway and who claim that everything (including, say, snuff child pornography) should be protected because it is free speech.</p>
<p><i>I do not and cannot trust this government — or any that may follow — to use this kind of power judiciously.</i></p>
<p>While that might be true, keep in mind that a government evil enough to abuse such power would be evil enough to do the same damage without the backing of any law at all.  In other words, if you have to protect yourself from your own government, you have already lost and all the bloggers in the country won&#8217;t make any difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph G</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/01/18/sopa-and-pipa/#comment-320162</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@100 Skygazer:
&quot;Don&#039;t cry.  Disney owns the rights to that emotion.&quot;

Bahahaha. Perfect way to end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@100 Skygazer:<br />
&#8220;Don&#8217;t cry.  Disney owns the rights to that emotion.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bahahaha. Perfect way to end.</p>
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		<title>By: SkyGazer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/01/18/sopa-and-pipa/#comment-320161</link>
		<dc:creator>SkyGazer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 20:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok shall we end this with one of the most taken down scenes in youtube history?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvXo4sGB7zM&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok shall we end this with one of the most taken down scenes in youtube history?<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvXo4sGB7zM&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvXo4sGB7zM&#038;feature=related</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joseph G</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/01/18/sopa-and-pipa/#comment-320160</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 07:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha!

Hey, how about this:  &quot;Congress: Drop the SOPA!&quot;
Catchy, eh?
Yeah, I&#039;ll stop too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha!</p>
<p>Hey, how about this:  &#8220;Congress: Drop the SOPA!&#8221;<br />
Catchy, eh?<br />
Yeah, I&#8217;ll stop too.</p>
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		<title>By: TheBlackCat</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/01/18/sopa-and-pipa/#comment-320159</link>
		<dc:creator>TheBlackCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 23:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Joseph G: Aha!  You are drinking vodka!  That proves you are a communist!  Real Americans drink whiskey.

Sorry, I&#039;ll stop now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Joseph G: Aha!  You are drinking vodka!  That proves you are a communist!  Real Americans drink whiskey.</p>
<p>Sorry, I&#8217;ll stop now.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph G</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/01/18/sopa-and-pipa/#comment-320158</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@92 TheBlackCat: &lt;i&gt;Those &lt;b&gt;are&lt;/b&gt; the moderate Republicans of today.&lt;/i&gt;

*shivers, draws a blanket over himself and reaches for a bottle of vodka*

@96 TheBlackCat: &lt;i&gt;Technically they didn’t really invent the language, it was mostly forced on them by the Normans&lt;/i&gt;
Now we&#039;re just recursively correcting corrections.  I think the thread&#039;s about over ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@92 TheBlackCat: <i>Those <b>are</b> the moderate Republicans of today.</i></p>
<p>*shivers, draws a blanket over himself and reaches for a bottle of vodka*</p>
<p>@96 TheBlackCat: <i>Technically they didn’t really invent the language, it was mostly forced on them by the Normans</i><br />
Now we&#8217;re just recursively correcting corrections.  I think the thread&#8217;s about over <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: TheBlackCat</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/01/18/sopa-and-pipa/#comment-320157</link>
		<dc:creator>TheBlackCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph G: technically they didn&#039;t really &lt;i&gt;invent&lt;/i&gt; the language, it was mostly forced on them by the Norman&#039;s ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph G: technically they didn&#8217;t really <i>invent</i> the language, it was mostly forced on them by the Norman&#8217;s <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Joseph G</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/01/18/sopa-and-pipa/#comment-320156</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@94 Nigel Depledge:  Oh you know what I mean.  Sheesh.  You Brits invent the language and you think that means you can correct people who are clearly wrong.  The nerve!  :-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@94 Nigel Depledge:  Oh you know what I mean.  Sheesh.  You Brits invent the language and you think that means you can correct people who are clearly wrong.  The nerve!  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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