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	<title>Comments on: Give Pluto your stamp of approval</title>
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		<title>By: Matt B.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/01/give-pluto-your-stamp-of-approval/comment-page-1/#comment-497302</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@42. Laurel Kornfeld: It&#039;s not a vote on facts, it&#039;s a vote on names. Getting everyone to call the same thing by the same name is necessary for effective communication. Think of when anti-science nuts call evilution &quot;just a theory&quot;. They think theory means the same as conjecture, when it actually means (to scientists at least) a well developed model that is used as the basis for new hypotheses. That disagreement on the meaning of &quot;theory&quot; leads to miscommunication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@42. Laurel Kornfeld: It&#8217;s not a vote on facts, it&#8217;s a vote on names. Getting everyone to call the same thing by the same name is necessary for effective communication. Think of when anti-science nuts call evilution &#8220;just a theory&#8221;. They think theory means the same as conjecture, when it actually means (to scientists at least) a well developed model that is used as the basis for new hypotheses. That disagreement on the meaning of &#8220;theory&#8221; leads to miscommunication.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy Dye</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/01/give-pluto-your-stamp-of-approval/comment-page-1/#comment-477477</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy Dye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 13:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Pluto should have it&#039;s own stamp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Pluto should have it&#8217;s own stamp.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurel Kornfeld</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/01/give-pluto-your-stamp-of-approval/comment-page-1/#comment-476936</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurel Kornfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 03:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;since I’ve taught college astronomy 30 years, I probably am entitled to an opinion, although only the IAU will be the authority of course...&quot;

Jeff, not only is this not true; it is also not very scientific. Science is not &quot;decreed&quot; by a self-appointed &quot;authority&quot;; it is determined by facts and data. The IAU can vote that the sky is green, but that wouldn&#039;t make it any less blue. I find it disturbing that so many would so easily cede &quot;authority&quot; to others even when they themselves have built careers studying astronomy. No one voted on the truth of relativity, on gravity, or on whether the universe has one or many galaxies. Similarly, no one should vote and have the right to issue declarations for all humanity on what constitutes a planet.

Pluto is both a planet and a KBO. Why is it a problem for it to be dually classed? The first tells us what it is; the second tells us where it is. Pluto is geologically differentiated into core, mantle, and crust just like the Earth and larger planets are. It has weather and geology. These all make it very different from the majority of shapeless KBOs and asteroids.

We are learning from exoplanet discoveries that planets form in a variety of ways. Even if Pluto formed in a different process from the bigger planets, that does not in and of itself preclude it from being a type of planet--if we recognize that there are many subtypes of planets rather than just two.

I am also very disappointed to hear of someone being banned from Change.org. Walabio, I would recommend trying to start another account there via a different email address. If that doesn&#039;t work, email New Horizons Principal Investigator Dr. Alan Stern, explain your situation, and ask if he can add your name to the list of supporters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;since I’ve taught college astronomy 30 years, I probably am entitled to an opinion, although only the IAU will be the authority of course&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Jeff, not only is this not true; it is also not very scientific. Science is not &#8220;decreed&#8221; by a self-appointed &#8220;authority&#8221;; it is determined by facts and data. The IAU can vote that the sky is green, but that wouldn&#8217;t make it any less blue. I find it disturbing that so many would so easily cede &#8220;authority&#8221; to others even when they themselves have built careers studying astronomy. No one voted on the truth of relativity, on gravity, or on whether the universe has one or many galaxies. Similarly, no one should vote and have the right to issue declarations for all humanity on what constitutes a planet.</p>
<p>Pluto is both a planet and a KBO. Why is it a problem for it to be dually classed? The first tells us what it is; the second tells us where it is. Pluto is geologically differentiated into core, mantle, and crust just like the Earth and larger planets are. It has weather and geology. These all make it very different from the majority of shapeless KBOs and asteroids.</p>
<p>We are learning from exoplanet discoveries that planets form in a variety of ways. Even if Pluto formed in a different process from the bigger planets, that does not in and of itself preclude it from being a type of planet&#8211;if we recognize that there are many subtypes of planets rather than just two.</p>
<p>I am also very disappointed to hear of someone being banned from Change.org. Walabio, I would recommend trying to start another account there via a different email address. If that doesn&#8217;t work, email New Horizons Principal Investigator Dr. Alan Stern, explain your situation, and ask if he can add your name to the list of supporters.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph G</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/01/give-pluto-your-stamp-of-approval/comment-page-1/#comment-476655</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dragonchild: &lt;i&gt; Voyager 2 had to expose its camera for TENS of MINUTES to observe Neptune.&lt;/i&gt;

Wow. I didn&#039;t know that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dragonchild: <i> Voyager 2 had to expose its camera for TENS of MINUTES to observe Neptune.</i></p>
<p>Wow. I didn&#8217;t know that.</p>
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		<title>By: James Sweet</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/01/give-pluto-your-stamp-of-approval/comment-page-1/#comment-476252</link>
		<dc:creator>James Sweet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Note: the word &quot;Forever&quot; means the stamp is always good for first class postage, and is crossed out here to prevent forgery.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And here I thought it was a commentary on Pluto&#039;s planetary status ;p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Note: the word &#8220;Forever&#8221; means the stamp is always good for first class postage, and is crossed out here to prevent forgery.</p></blockquote>
<p>And here I thought it was a commentary on Pluto&#8217;s planetary status ;p</p>
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		<title>By: Dragonchild</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/01/give-pluto-your-stamp-of-approval/comment-page-1/#comment-476241</link>
		<dc:creator>Dragonchild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@33.   Joseph G
Sol is the brightest star in Pluto&#039;s &quot;daytime&quot; sky by far, but bear in mind brightness falls off like any other inverse square law.  Voyager 2 had to expose its camera for TENS of MINUTES to observe Neptune.

I don&#039;t know just how bright the Sun is from Pluto, but I think like the Moon here, it&#039;d be bright, but not enough for me to see color, and would be dim enough to look at without eye damage.  I&#039;m speculating because I can&#039;t do the math while I&#039;m at work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@33.   Joseph G<br />
Sol is the brightest star in Pluto&#8217;s &#8220;daytime&#8221; sky by far, but bear in mind brightness falls off like any other inverse square law.  Voyager 2 had to expose its camera for TENS of MINUTES to observe Neptune.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know just how bright the Sun is from Pluto, but I think like the Moon here, it&#8217;d be bright, but not enough for me to see color, and would be dim enough to look at without eye damage.  I&#8217;m speculating because I can&#8217;t do the math while I&#8217;m at work.</p>
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		<title>By: Friday links</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friday links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sign this petition for a new New Horizons probe forever stamp (via Bad Astronomy)! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sign this petition for a new New Horizons probe forever stamp (via Bad Astronomy)! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph G</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/01/give-pluto-your-stamp-of-approval/comment-page-1/#comment-475920</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 06:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@36 CR:  I see, so the &quot;strikethrough&quot; isn&#039;t on the actual stamp, just posters of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@36 CR:  I see, so the &#8220;strikethrough&#8221; isn&#8217;t on the actual stamp, just posters of it?</p>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/01/give-pluto-your-stamp-of-approval/comment-page-1/#comment-475917</link>
		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 06:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: the crossing out of &#039;Forever&#039; as an anti-forgery thing. It&#039;s basically so that someone can&#039;t cut out the picture and glue it to an envelope to mail a letter. Think of it as pre-cancelling a real stamp. Even the USPS does the exact same thing (over the word &#039;forever&#039; or over the numerical price, whichever the individual stamp picture might contain) on all of its posters and catalogs showing pictures of upcoming and available stamps. The Pluto/New Horizons example shown here is within normal operating specs of the USPS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: the crossing out of &#8216;Forever&#8217; as an anti-forgery thing. It&#8217;s basically so that someone can&#8217;t cut out the picture and glue it to an envelope to mail a letter. Think of it as pre-cancelling a real stamp. Even the USPS does the exact same thing (over the word &#8216;forever&#8217; or over the numerical price, whichever the individual stamp picture might contain) on all of its posters and catalogs showing pictures of upcoming and available stamps. The Pluto/New Horizons example shown here is within normal operating specs of the USPS.</p>
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		<title>By: tracer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/01/give-pluto-your-stamp-of-approval/comment-page-1/#comment-475807</link>
		<dc:creator>tracer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 02:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ SkyGazer:

Waaaaaaaaaaait a minute ... that&#039;s not a picture of Pluto, it&#039;s a picture of Goofy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ SkyGazer:</p>
<p>Waaaaaaaaaaait a minute &#8230; that&#8217;s not a picture of Pluto, it&#8217;s a picture of Goofy!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 00:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice stamp, but isn&#039;t it a bit premature to call New Horizons the &quot;First Spacecraft to Explore Pluto&quot; when it&#039;s still 3+ years out?  I mean, spacecraft do occasionally fail en route, FSM forbid!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice stamp, but isn&#8217;t it a bit premature to call New Horizons the &#8220;First Spacecraft to Explore Pluto&#8221; when it&#8217;s still 3+ years out?  I mean, spacecraft do occasionally fail en route, FSM forbid!</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph G</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/01/give-pluto-your-stamp-of-approval/comment-page-1/#comment-475624</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 21:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@29 Messier Tidy Upper:  You&#039;ve always got all the most useful links, don&#039;t ya?  If it weren&#039;t for Google, I&#039;d suspect that you were some kind of rogue AI.  Or maybe a witch  :-P 

@30 Dragonchild:  &lt;i&gt;I’d imagine it’d look like whatever New Horizons manages to see, but illuminated in starlight conditions. Pluto gets just as much starlight as Earth’s night side; I’m tempted to call Earth’s atmospheric scattering and the Sun on Pluto’s day side a wash.&lt;/i&gt;

Is the sun really that dim at that distance?   Would it then not be possible (for humans) to see color?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@29 Messier Tidy Upper:  You&#8217;ve always got all the most useful links, don&#8217;t ya?  If it weren&#8217;t for Google, I&#8217;d suspect that you were some kind of rogue AI.  Or maybe a witch  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>@30 Dragonchild:  <i>I’d imagine it’d look like whatever New Horizons manages to see, but illuminated in starlight conditions. Pluto gets just as much starlight as Earth’s night side; I’m tempted to call Earth’s atmospheric scattering and the Sun on Pluto’s day side a wash.</i></p>
<p>Is the sun really that dim at that distance?   Would it then not be possible (for humans) to see color?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark L</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/01/give-pluto-your-stamp-of-approval/comment-page-1/#comment-475493</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 18:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So in 2015 we&#039;ll finally find out that Charon is really just a chunk of ice housing a gigantic Mass Relay that will allow intergalactic travel? I, for one, welcome our new Turian overlords.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So in 2015 we&#8217;ll finally find out that Charon is really just a chunk of ice housing a gigantic Mass Relay that will allow intergalactic travel? I, for one, welcome our new Turian overlords.</p>
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		<title>By: eric_in_ak</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/01/give-pluto-your-stamp-of-approval/comment-page-1/#comment-475434</link>
		<dc:creator>eric_in_ak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 16:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Larian LeQuella (#14), I don&#039;t know if the USPS Headquarters is open to public visits.  If you are interested in stamp type things, go to National Postal Museum.  It is part of the Smithsonian and is a great museum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Larian LeQuella (#14), I don&#8217;t know if the USPS Headquarters is open to public visits.  If you are interested in stamp type things, go to National Postal Museum.  It is part of the Smithsonian and is a great museum.</p>
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		<title>By: Dragonchild</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/01/give-pluto-your-stamp-of-approval/comment-page-1/#comment-475329</link>
		<dc:creator>Dragonchild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@26.   Joseph G
I&#039;d imagine it&#039;d look like whatever New Horizons manages to see, but illuminated in starlight conditions.  Pluto gets just as much starlight as Earth&#039;s night side; I&#039;m tempted to call Earth&#039;s atmospheric scattering and the Sun on Pluto&#039;s day side a wash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@26.   Joseph G<br />
I&#8217;d imagine it&#8217;d look like whatever New Horizons manages to see, but illuminated in starlight conditions.  Pluto gets just as much starlight as Earth&#8217;s night side; I&#8217;m tempted to call Earth&#8217;s atmospheric scattering and the Sun on Pluto&#8217;s day side a wash.</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/01/give-pluto-your-stamp-of-approval/comment-page-1/#comment-475315</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 26.   Joseph G :

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt; I’ve always wondered, how bright would Pluto actually look, to human eyes? &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Interesting question - I&#039;m not exactly sure of the answer and it would depend on where we were seeing it from. Ken Croswell asks a good question of his own here : 

http://kencroswell.com/PlutoQuestion.html 

on just how  bright Pluto would be if it was closer.  (If you haven&#039;t seen that already maybe?) 

See  also :

http://www.space.com/13703-pluto-horizons-subsurface-ocean.html 

regarding possible oceans within Pluto.  

Plus : 

http://www.space.com/3904-pluto-moon-ice-machine.html 

for an item on ice geysers that could exist on Charon. These are extraordinary little worlds.  :-)

*****

&quot;...Marc Buie can very easily imagine what it must be like to walk around on Pluto: with less than 1% of your weight on Earth because of the low gravity, at temperatures of 230 degrees below zero, in the twilight because the Sun is nothing more than a dazzling star in the black sky, across snowfields of methane ice and transparent crystals of frozen nitrogen and with a gigantic moon hanging overhead - at least if you are on the right side of the planet.&quot;
- Page 61, &lt;i&gt;&#039;The Hunt For Planet X&#039;&lt;/i&gt;, Govert Schilling, Copernicus Books, 2009.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 26.   Joseph G :</p>
<blockquote><p><i> I’ve always wondered, how bright would Pluto actually look, to human eyes? </i></p></blockquote>
<p>Interesting question &#8211; I&#8217;m not exactly sure of the answer and it would depend on where we were seeing it from. Ken Croswell asks a good question of his own here : </p>
<p><a href="http://kencroswell.com/PlutoQuestion.html" rel="nofollow">http://kencroswell.com/PlutoQuestion.html</a> </p>
<p>on just how  bright Pluto would be if it was closer.  (If you haven&#8217;t seen that already maybe?) </p>
<p>See  also :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.space.com/13703-pluto-horizons-subsurface-ocean.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.space.com/13703-pluto-horizons-subsurface-ocean.html</a> </p>
<p>regarding possible oceans within Pluto.  </p>
<p>Plus : </p>
<p><a href="http://www.space.com/3904-pluto-moon-ice-machine.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.space.com/3904-pluto-moon-ice-machine.html</a> </p>
<p>for an item on ice geysers that could exist on Charon. These are extraordinary little worlds.  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>*****</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;Marc Buie can very easily imagine what it must be like to walk around on Pluto: with less than 1% of your weight on Earth because of the low gravity, at temperatures of 230 degrees below zero, in the twilight because the Sun is nothing more than a dazzling star in the black sky, across snowfields of methane ice and transparent crystals of frozen nitrogen and with a gigantic moon hanging overhead &#8211; at least if you are on the right side of the planet.&#8221;<br />
- Page 61, <i>&#8216;The Hunt For Planet X&#8217;</i>, Govert Schilling, Copernicus Books, 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/01/give-pluto-your-stamp-of-approval/comment-page-1/#comment-475312</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pluto certainly has my stamp of approval. :-D

I&#039;ll sign that petition for sure! :-)

Great idea here - thanks BA &amp; Dan Durda. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pluto certainly has my stamp of approval. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll sign that petition for sure! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Great idea here &#8211; thanks BA &amp; Dan Durda. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Ota</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Ota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting back on topic, I signed the petition for sentimental reasons. There have been many other space exploration stamps made in the past that I used to collect as a child.

Even though snail mail is becoming obsolete, stamps can be true works of art. 
This one is beautiful</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting back on topic, I signed the petition for sentimental reasons. There have been many other space exploration stamps made in the past that I used to collect as a child.</p>
<p>Even though snail mail is becoming obsolete, stamps can be true works of art.<br />
This one is beautiful</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 11:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always wondered, how bright would Pluto actually look, to human eyes?  Clearly, it receives much less light than the moon, for instance, but the moon has quite a low albedo, considering.  Would it really look as bright as it does in this image, or would human eyes that were dark-adjusted enough to see it well not be able to see colors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always wondered, how bright would Pluto actually look, to human eyes?  Clearly, it receives much less light than the moon, for instance, but the moon has quite a low albedo, considering.  Would it really look as bright as it does in this image, or would human eyes that were dark-adjusted enough to see it well not be able to see colors?</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 11:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, gorgeous!
Is that an RTG on your chassis, or are you happy to see me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, gorgeous!<br />
Is that an RTG on your chassis, or are you happy to see me?</p>
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		<title>By: Monkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 10:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@23 No, its better to have a documentation (however it is flattered with artistic license) of humanities impression of the unknown. Think of how cool old maps are with the early impressions of landforms, places, etc... 

This can lead to a follow up stamp, though. The real pluto, king of the KBO&#039;s! Or was it a dog...I forget.... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@23 No, its better to have a documentation (however it is flattered with artistic license) of humanities impression of the unknown. Think of how cool old maps are with the early impressions of landforms, places, etc&#8230; </p>
<p>This can lead to a follow up stamp, though. The real pluto, king of the KBO&#8217;s! Or was it a dog&#8230;I forget&#8230;. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nemo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 05:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the stamp, but maybe the design should wait until the mission arrives, so we actually know what Pluto looks like!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the stamp, but maybe the design should wait until the mission arrives, so we actually know what Pluto looks like!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Laden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Laden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 03:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Note: the word &quot;Forever&quot; means the stamp is always good for first class postage,&quot;

Yeah, I guess it doesn&#039;t mean &quot;forever a planet&quot;! 

Anyway, a very nice stamp.  It reminds me of some of the Apollo era stamps.  

Question: Are the stars just background, or are they &quot;astronomically correct&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Note: the word &#8220;Forever&#8221; means the stamp is always good for first class postage,&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, I guess it doesn&#8217;t mean &#8220;forever a planet&#8221;! </p>
<p>Anyway, a very nice stamp.  It reminds me of some of the Apollo era stamps.  </p>
<p>Question: Are the stars just background, or are they &#8220;astronomically correct&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 01:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. #9, I like your Pluto status the best; can&#039;t beat that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. #9, I like your Pluto status the best; can&#8217;t beat that.</p>
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		<title>By: Walabio</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/01/give-pluto-your-stamp-of-approval/comment-page-1/#comment-474992</link>
		<dc:creator>Walabio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 01:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to sign the Petition but Change.Org wrongly banned me and a few thousand others:

Back in 2008, after Obama won the election, Change.Org had people submit petitions for President Obama on his first day.  People voted them up.  The top 10 would be delivered on that first day.

1 of the petitions was to ban nontherapeutic sexual genital mutilation of minors and end Medicaid/Medicare-funding of nontherapeutic sexual genital mutilation.

That petition was in the top 5 when it disappeared.  When contacted, the reply was that Change.Org had no interest in carrying the Petition.  This is from an organization claiming that it is devoted to Free Speech.  Also, meddling with elections goes against the stand of Change.Org for Voter-Verifiable Elections so that people like Walden “The ElectionFixer” O’Dell of Diebold.Com cannot steal any more elections.

Many complained about this to Change.Org.  Change.Org responded by banning all complainants and everyone who voted up the petition before its removal.

I cannot sign the petition.  I recommend that one setup future petitions on other sites because Change.Org is an untrustworthy hypocritical site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to sign the Petition but Change.Org wrongly banned me and a few thousand others:</p>
<p>Back in 2008, after Obama won the election, Change.Org had people submit petitions for President Obama on his first day.  People voted them up.  The top 10 would be delivered on that first day.</p>
<p>1 of the petitions was to ban nontherapeutic sexual genital mutilation of minors and end Medicaid/Medicare-funding of nontherapeutic sexual genital mutilation.</p>
<p>That petition was in the top 5 when it disappeared.  When contacted, the reply was that Change.Org had no interest in carrying the Petition.  This is from an organization claiming that it is devoted to Free Speech.  Also, meddling with elections goes against the stand of Change.Org for Voter-Verifiable Elections so that people like Walden “The ElectionFixer” O’Dell of Diebold.Com cannot steal any more elections.</p>
<p>Many complained about this to Change.Org.  Change.Org responded by banning all complainants and everyone who voted up the petition before its removal.</p>
<p>I cannot sign the petition.  I recommend that one setup future petitions on other sites because Change.Org is an untrustworthy hypocritical site.</p>
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