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	<title>Comments on: East of the  Blue Marble</title>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/02/east-of-the-blue-marble/comment-page-1/#comment-477074</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 12:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@37.   Rob simmon : Fair enough - thanks for that explanation re: sea ice -  and congrats - good work. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@37.   Rob simmon : Fair enough &#8211; thanks for that explanation re: sea ice &#8211;  and congrats &#8211; good work. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Eric Olson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/02/east-of-the-blue-marble/comment-page-1/#comment-476663</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Olson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 13:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW I know rocket fuel (like liquid O2, H2) is not (directly) fossil fuel based.   Track back to its making though, you find a conventional fuel a few steps back (electricity from conventional sources like coal, nuclear power, etc)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW I know rocket fuel (like liquid O2, H2) is not (directly) fossil fuel based.   Track back to its making though, you find a conventional fuel a few steps back (electricity from conventional sources like coal, nuclear power, etc)</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Olson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/02/east-of-the-blue-marble/comment-page-1/#comment-476661</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Olson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 13:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do love these views, and as a kid I also dreamed of looking out the window and seeing the world far below me.   But given the physics of gravity and escape velocity, etc., and reflecting on cost and bother still today of good ol&#039; fashioned near earth flight (airplanes) I have a prediction:  orbiting the world will remain expensive and rare.  It would be interesting to tally up in energy units like BTU&#039;s what it takes to get into orbit, and convert that to miles per gallon equivalents; this should include the energy required to refine the specialized fuels.   I am a first time visitor to this website so I am sure there are folks here who will cite technological advances &quot;that we can&#039;t yet even imagine&quot; and etc.    If anything, though, we&#039;re looking at more costly airplane flight in the coming years, not less -- it seems likely to become less accessible to our children, as cheap sweet crude oil becomes depleted.  Biofuels you say and I say &quot;bring em on&quot; but again you can do the physics, how many BTU&#039;s of sunshine captured per hectare of soybeans, etc.    You just can&#039;t beat an oil well for cost effective energy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do love these views, and as a kid I also dreamed of looking out the window and seeing the world far below me.   But given the physics of gravity and escape velocity, etc., and reflecting on cost and bother still today of good ol&#8217; fashioned near earth flight (airplanes) I have a prediction:  orbiting the world will remain expensive and rare.  It would be interesting to tally up in energy units like BTU&#8217;s what it takes to get into orbit, and convert that to miles per gallon equivalents; this should include the energy required to refine the specialized fuels.   I am a first time visitor to this website so I am sure there are folks here who will cite technological advances &#8220;that we can&#8217;t yet even imagine&#8221; and etc.    If anything, though, we&#8217;re looking at more costly airplane flight in the coming years, not less &#8212; it seems likely to become less accessible to our children, as cheap sweet crude oil becomes depleted.  Biofuels you say and I say &#8220;bring em on&#8221; but again you can do the physics, how many BTU&#8217;s of sunshine captured per hectare of soybeans, etc.    You just can&#8217;t beat an oil well for cost effective energy.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob simmon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/02/east-of-the-blue-marble/comment-page-1/#comment-476659</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob simmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 13:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@35 Messier Tidy Upper:

There&#039;s no sea ice in those images. Remember that they&#039;re composites. The reflectance data that we use for land is not processed over the deep water oceans, you&#039;ll notice theyre a solid color. One solution is to add separate sea ice data  back in. Unfortunatley, it&#039;s very, very difficult to distinguish ice from clouds--the best way to do it is with microwaves. Microwaves have much much longer wavelengths than visible light, so the maps are much lower resolution. It just doesn&#039;t make sense to merge them.

And yes, I&#039;m the same Rob Simmon. I should mention that more credit should go to Reto Stöckli and the NASA data processing teams than me, since they do the hard work.

@36 CR  Follow my final link from my post above. And poke around on the Earth Observatory, we have a lot of images of Australia. One member of our team grew up there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@35 Messier Tidy Upper:</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no sea ice in those images. Remember that they&#8217;re composites. The reflectance data that we use for land is not processed over the deep water oceans, you&#8217;ll notice theyre a solid color. One solution is to add separate sea ice data  back in. Unfortunatley, it&#8217;s very, very difficult to distinguish ice from clouds&#8211;the best way to do it is with microwaves. Microwaves have much much longer wavelengths than visible light, so the maps are much lower resolution. It just doesn&#8217;t make sense to merge them.</p>
<p>And yes, I&#8217;m the same Rob Simmon. I should mention that more credit should go to Reto Stöckli and the NASA data processing teams than me, since they do the hard work.</p>
<p>@36 CR  Follow my final link from my post above. And poke around on the Earth Observatory, we have a lot of images of Australia. One member of our team grew up there.</p>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/02/east-of-the-blue-marble/comment-page-1/#comment-476487</link>
		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 06:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Australia &amp; New Zealand in Earth pics... doesn&#039;t the famous &#039;Earthrise&#039; sequence taken by one of the Apollos as it came around the moon show Australia? If not those particular pics, I know at least SOME Apollo pics do, though they aren&#039;t as closes as the famous Africa &#039;Blue Marble&#039; one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Australia &amp; New Zealand in Earth pics&#8230; doesn&#8217;t the famous &#8216;Earthrise&#8217; sequence taken by one of the Apollos as it came around the moon show Australia? If not those particular pics, I know at least SOME Apollo pics do, though they aren&#8217;t as closes as the famous Africa &#8216;Blue Marble&#8217; one.</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/02/east-of-the-blue-marble/comment-page-1/#comment-476384</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 02:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 31.   cope : Hmm.. Maybe its an elliptical orbit averaging 8,000 miles but taken at a point where its only 5,000 miles from the surface? ;-)

@26.  &amp; 30  Timo :  Interesting - thanks. :-)

So how come we know Suomi as Finland in the English speaking world - why did it end up with that name instead?  

@32.   Rob Simmon : Cheers for those links. :-) 

Is it just me or are the maps in that first link missing all the sea ice in the Arctic? Is that real or an artefact of the image processing - or am I not looking closely enough?

PS. Would you happen to be the same person as in the &lt;i&gt;&quot;Science Fridays - Creating Earth&quot;&lt;/i&gt; video?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 31.   cope : Hmm.. Maybe its an elliptical orbit averaging 8,000 miles but taken at a point where its only 5,000 miles from the surface? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@26.  &amp; 30  Timo :  Interesting &#8211; thanks. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So how come we know Suomi as Finland in the English speaking world &#8211; why did it end up with that name instead?  </p>
<p>@32.   Rob Simmon : Cheers for those links. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Is it just me or are the maps in that first link missing all the sea ice in the Arctic? Is that real or an artefact of the image processing &#8211; or am I not looking closely enough?</p>
<p>PS. Would you happen to be the same person as in the <i>&#8220;Science Fridays &#8211; Creating Earth&#8221;</i> video?</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/02/east-of-the-blue-marble/comment-page-1/#comment-476358</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 00:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great clip here : 

http://www.sciencefriday.com/videos/watch/10425 

On the making of these images! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great clip here : </p>
<p><a href="http://www.sciencefriday.com/videos/watch/10425" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencefriday.com/videos/watch/10425</a> </p>
<p>On the making of these images! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: flipsockgrrl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/02/east-of-the-blue-marble/comment-page-1/#comment-476342</link>
		<dc:creator>flipsockgrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 23:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll get excited when NASA releases a &#039;blue marble&#039; image that includes Australia and SE Asia. *So* tired of being the forgotten region!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll get excited when NASA releases a &#8216;blue marble&#8217; image that includes Australia and SE Asia. *So* tired of being the forgotten region!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Simmon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/02/east-of-the-blue-marble/comment-page-1/#comment-476298</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Simmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 21:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CJSF,
Maybe equirectangular maps, like these?
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/BlueMarble/BlueMarble_monthlies.php

or this?
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=42805

and finally, Australia (scroll down a bit):
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/BlueMarble/BlueMarble_history.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CJSF,<br />
Maybe equirectangular maps, like these?<br />
<a href="http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/BlueMarble/BlueMarble_monthlies.php" rel="nofollow">http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/BlueMarble/BlueMarble_monthlies.php</a></p>
<p>or this?<br />
<a href="http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=42805" rel="nofollow">http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=42805</a></p>
<p>and finally, Australia (scroll down a bit):<br />
<a href="http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/BlueMarble/BlueMarble_history.php" rel="nofollow">http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/BlueMarble/BlueMarble_history.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: cope</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/02/east-of-the-blue-marble/comment-page-1/#comment-476228</link>
		<dc:creator>cope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Playing around with Google Earth to duplicate the view, it seems to fit better from a lower altitude than 8,000 miles, more like 5,000 miles.

Anyhoo, still an inspiring pair of pictures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Playing around with Google Earth to duplicate the view, it seems to fit better from a lower altitude than 8,000 miles, more like 5,000 miles.</p>
<p>Anyhoo, still an inspiring pair of pictures.</p>
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		<title>By: Timo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/02/east-of-the-blue-marble/comment-page-1/#comment-476210</link>
		<dc:creator>Timo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ganzy: thanks for the visit to my Flickr!

I did some googling and there&#039;s a link to Finland in the name of the satellite: it got it&#039;s name to honor the late Verner Suomi who&#039;s parents moved to USA from Finland: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verner_E._Suomi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ganzy: thanks for the visit to my Flickr!</p>
<p>I did some googling and there&#8217;s a link to Finland in the name of the satellite: it got it&#8217;s name to honor the late Verner Suomi who&#8217;s parents moved to USA from Finland:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verner_E._Suomi" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verner_E._Suomi</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ganzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ganzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@25 Timo

&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;i&gt;‘Suomi’ is the name of Finland (the country) in our own language.&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s interesting I never knew or heard that word before. You have some really great images on your Flickr account too :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@25 Timo</p>
<blockquote><p>
<i>‘Suomi’ is the name of Finland (the country) in our own language.</i>
</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s interesting I never knew or heard that word before. You have some really great images on your Flickr account too <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/02/east-of-the-blue-marble/comment-page-1/#comment-476050</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hang on, is there really an &lt;b&gt;*east*&lt;/b&gt; in space? After all, there&#039;s no &quot;up&quot;or &quot;down&quot; there!  ;-)

Also wishing to see more such mosaics incl. one of Oz plus the poles on views - south &amp; north.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hang on, is there really an <b>*east*</b> in space? After all, there&#8217;s no &#8220;up&#8221;or &#8220;down&#8221; there!  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Also wishing to see more such mosaics incl. one of Oz plus the poles on views &#8211; south &amp; north.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill3</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/02/east-of-the-blue-marble/comment-page-1/#comment-476044</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of the clouds...  my biggest question on these two mosaic images is how did they stitch together the cloud formations that (I think) should have changed significantly from one orbit to the next.

@Wouter: It looks like there&#039;s the markings of another band on the far western edge of the image.  But mathematically, there should be bands like that, evenly spaced, all the way around the planet if they stitched together an entire globe.  It probably has more to do with the time to make an orbit than the number of orbits they used in producing one image.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of the clouds&#8230;  my biggest question on these two mosaic images is how did they stitch together the cloud formations that (I think) should have changed significantly from one orbit to the next.</p>
<p>@Wouter: It looks like there&#8217;s the markings of another band on the far western edge of the image.  But mathematically, there should be bands like that, evenly spaced, all the way around the planet if they stitched together an entire globe.  It probably has more to do with the time to make an orbit than the number of orbits they used in producing one image.</p>
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		<title>By: Timo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/02/east-of-the-blue-marble/comment-page-1/#comment-476042</link>
		<dc:creator>Timo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a detail, but &#039;Suomi&#039; is the name of Finland (the country) in our own language. Caught immediately my eye. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a detail, but &#8216;Suomi&#8217; is the name of Finland (the country) in our own language. Caught immediately my eye. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andreas H</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/02/east-of-the-blue-marble/comment-page-1/#comment-475968</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 07:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow the original blue marble is much more significant and beautiful to me. Well the significance comes from the fact that it is a single shot from the Apollo 17 crew and not a composite image of a satellite. 

But if you look at the cloud formations and the coloring I think the original blue marble just seems more beautiful, more majestic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow the original blue marble is much more significant and beautiful to me. Well the significance comes from the fact that it is a single shot from the Apollo 17 crew and not a composite image of a satellite. </p>
<p>But if you look at the cloud formations and the coloring I think the original blue marble just seems more beautiful, more majestic.</p>
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		<title>By: NASA releases 2nd &#8216;Blue Marble&#8217; Earth photo &#8211; USA TODAY &#171; The Soul of the Flower</title>
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		<dc:creator>NASA releases 2nd &#8216;Blue Marble&#8217; Earth photo &#8211; USA TODAY &#171; The Soul of the Flower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 07:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/02/east-of-the-blue-marble/comment-page-1/#comment-475909</link>
		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 06:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I see that my question was answered in the actual post, which I missed the first time I read it. And the second. For some reason I can&#039;t figure out, I just completely missed that paragraph above the small diagram TWICE when I read through the post. Weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I see that my question was answered in the actual post, which I missed the first time I read it. And the second. For some reason I can&#8217;t figure out, I just completely missed that paragraph above the small diagram TWICE when I read through the post. Weird.</p>
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		<title>By: Wouter</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/02/east-of-the-blue-marble/comment-page-1/#comment-475882</link>
		<dc:creator>Wouter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 05:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I meant is; if it&#039;s stitched together from 6 different polar orbits wouldn&#039;t you expect 5 of these bands instead of 4? Or were these images taken around 12 o&#039;clock on every location, with the sun directly behind the Suomi and the other white bands are just on the other side of the earth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I meant is; if it&#8217;s stitched together from 6 different polar orbits wouldn&#8217;t you expect 5 of these bands instead of 4? Or were these images taken around 12 o&#8217;clock on every location, with the sun directly behind the Suomi and the other white bands are just on the other side of the earth?</p>
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		<title>By: Thorby</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/02/east-of-the-blue-marble/comment-page-1/#comment-475881</link>
		<dc:creator>Thorby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 05:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t seen the Apollo 17 pic but it was probably just a single shot capturing one moment. This is a mosaic taken over several orbits so the clouds may have either moved, or they look that way as an artifact of putting the mosaic together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen the Apollo 17 pic but it was probably just a single shot capturing one moment. This is a mosaic taken over several orbits so the clouds may have either moved, or they look that way as an artifact of putting the mosaic together.</p>
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		<title>By: Ganzy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/02/east-of-the-blue-marble/comment-page-1/#comment-475878</link>
		<dc:creator>Ganzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 05:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, thanks for the explanation of Earths tiger stripes. After my initial mesmerization my gaze wandered on to those massive cloudy claw marks, and my mind started to wander in the direction of climate change due to recent postings.  I thought &#039;wtf are those?&#039; maybe some weird kind of atmospheric oscillation effect due to climate change :) Then I scrolled down and read on..

The image prompted me to look for some images of Earth I was shown at school during the 70&#039;s, the Apollo picture that you had linked to was the one I remember most.

What strikes me about the difference between the two images of Earth, the new one above and the Apollo image from a few decades ago,  is the difference in the cloud-scapes. The Apollo image sees the cloud-scapes on Earth at the time, as really defined, I mean there appears to be more definition and structure in the cloud forms of that time period.

When I compare that to the new image above, it&#039;s not that the cloud forms in the latest image lack definiton and structure, it appears to me that those nicely defined cloud-banks are less in number than the 70&#039;s image. The cloud-scapes of the new image seem to be dominated by clouds that I can only describe as frenetic in appearence. 

When I was a kid, I remember looking up and following my old mans gaze, hearing his description of a sky that didn&#039;t know wether it wanted to rain, snow or blow, as &quot;a confused sky&quot;. The clouds over the Indian Ocean remind me of that.

If climate change is legit, wouldn&#039;t that change be represented in the overall structure of the cloud-scapes we see around Earth changing over time?

Compare the latest mosaic above,  side-byside with the earlier Apollo image and look at the structure and coverage of large fluffy cloud banks as opposed to wispy stratospheric looking stuff that is neither here nor there, so to speak. Apart from a couple of cyclonic structures, the &#039;sky&#039; looks shattered.

Still beautiful nonetheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, thanks for the explanation of Earths tiger stripes. After my initial mesmerization my gaze wandered on to those massive cloudy claw marks, and my mind started to wander in the direction of climate change due to recent postings.  I thought &#8216;wtf are those?&#8217; maybe some weird kind of atmospheric oscillation effect due to climate change <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Then I scrolled down and read on..</p>
<p>The image prompted me to look for some images of Earth I was shown at school during the 70&#8242;s, the Apollo picture that you had linked to was the one I remember most.</p>
<p>What strikes me about the difference between the two images of Earth, the new one above and the Apollo image from a few decades ago,  is the difference in the cloud-scapes. The Apollo image sees the cloud-scapes on Earth at the time, as really defined, I mean there appears to be more definition and structure in the cloud forms of that time period.</p>
<p>When I compare that to the new image above, it&#8217;s not that the cloud forms in the latest image lack definiton and structure, it appears to me that those nicely defined cloud-banks are less in number than the 70&#8242;s image. The cloud-scapes of the new image seem to be dominated by clouds that I can only describe as frenetic in appearence. </p>
<p>When I was a kid, I remember looking up and following my old mans gaze, hearing his description of a sky that didn&#8217;t know wether it wanted to rain, snow or blow, as &#8220;a confused sky&#8221;. The clouds over the Indian Ocean remind me of that.</p>
<p>If climate change is legit, wouldn&#8217;t that change be represented in the overall structure of the cloud-scapes we see around Earth changing over time?</p>
<p>Compare the latest mosaic above,  side-byside with the earlier Apollo image and look at the structure and coverage of large fluffy cloud banks as opposed to wispy stratospheric looking stuff that is neither here nor there, so to speak. Apart from a couple of cyclonic structures, the &#8216;sky&#8217; looks shattered.</p>
<p>Still beautiful nonetheless.</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/02/east-of-the-blue-marble/comment-page-1/#comment-475873</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 04:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@15.   Chip : 

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;not [sic] only is there significantly less ice at the southern pole in the mosaic image as compared to the &lt;/i&gt;Apollo 17&lt;i&gt; image, but there’s also a lot less greenery on the African continent. Dayum, humans suck!&quot; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In fairness, remember that that could be due to seasonal factors if one image was taken during winter and the other in summer. Not sure whether or not that&#039;s the case.

EDIT : Wiki-check notes &lt;i&gt;Apollo 17&lt;/i&gt; flew in December 1972 so southern hemisphere&#039;s early summer.

Also as #16 OtherRob has noted already there&#039;s also the slightly different angles to consider.

I take your point though still. Yes Humans are having some visible effects on earth even as seen from space - the shrinkage of the Aral sea &lt;i&gt;(also Lake Chad and /or a few others if memory serves)&lt;/i&gt; ,desertification, deforestation and the reduced and ever reducing sea ice area in the Arctic especially to name a few. 

I suspect that if sentient aliens are watching from vast distances through incredibly powerful scopes they might well falsely conclude that we are a desert loving species deliberateley trying to &quot;terrafrom&quot; our planet into a more desert state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@15.   Chip : </p>
<blockquote><p><i>&#8220;not [sic] only is there significantly less ice at the southern pole in the mosaic image as compared to the </i>Apollo 17<i> image, but there’s also a lot less greenery on the African continent. Dayum, humans suck!&#8221; </i></p></blockquote>
<p>In fairness, remember that that could be due to seasonal factors if one image was taken during winter and the other in summer. Not sure whether or not that&#8217;s the case.</p>
<p>EDIT : Wiki-check notes <i>Apollo 17</i> flew in December 1972 so southern hemisphere&#8217;s early summer.</p>
<p>Also as #16 OtherRob has noted already there&#8217;s also the slightly different angles to consider.</p>
<p>I take your point though still. Yes Humans are having some visible effects on earth even as seen from space &#8211; the shrinkage of the Aral sea <i>(also Lake Chad and /or a few others if memory serves)</i> ,desertification, deforestation and the reduced and ever reducing sea ice area in the Arctic especially to name a few. </p>
<p>I suspect that if sentient aliens are watching from vast distances through incredibly powerful scopes they might well falsely conclude that we are a desert loving species deliberateley trying to &#8220;terrafrom&#8221; our planet into a more desert state.</p>
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		<title>By: kat wagner</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/02/east-of-the-blue-marble/comment-page-1/#comment-475833</link>
		<dc:creator>kat wagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 03:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blue Marble it is, and this shot makes me just as goosebumpy as the first one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blue Marble it is, and this shot makes me just as goosebumpy as the first one.</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/02/02/east-of-the-blue-marble/comment-page-1/#comment-475824</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 02:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blue marble?

Well blue is right but not marble - I think basalt is a bit more common making up more of Earth&#039;s rocks! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blue marble?</p>
<p>Well blue is right but not marble &#8211; I think basalt is a bit more common making up more of Earth&#8217;s rocks! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: OtherRob</title>
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		<dc:creator>OtherRob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 02:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not so sure it&#039;s a case of their being more ice in the Apollo 17 image. I think we simply see more of the South Pole in the Apollo 17 image than we do in this one. Though it&#039;s a little hard to tell through the cloud cover, in the Apollo image it looks like the tip of Africa is a good bit &quot;higher&quot; on the globe, which would mean more of the South Pole is exposed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not so sure it&#8217;s a case of their being more ice in the Apollo 17 image. I think we simply see more of the South Pole in the Apollo 17 image than we do in this one. Though it&#8217;s a little hard to tell through the cloud cover, in the Apollo image it looks like the tip of Africa is a good bit &#8220;higher&#8221; on the globe, which would mean more of the South Pole is exposed.</p>
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