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		<title>By: BigBob</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 08:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smoooth!  Without delays I could make it to work, boot up the antique PC and catch NASA TV in time for the launch.  Worked like a dream.  This is SO exciting.
Bob(Big)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smoooth!  Without delays I could make it to work, boot up the antique PC and catch NASA TV in time for the launch.  Worked like a dream.  This is SO exciting.<br />
Bob(Big)</p>
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		<title>By: Satan Claws</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/05/19/spacex-launch-aborted-next-attempt-tuesday/#comment-331757</link>
		<dc:creator>Satan Claws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 08:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May 22nd, 2012: IT&#039;S AWAY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May 22nd, 2012: IT&#8217;S AWAY!</p>
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		<title>By: puppygod</title>
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		<dc:creator>puppygod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 07:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it flew like a dream.

Can&#039;t wait for docking to ISS. Good luck Dragon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it flew like a dream.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait for docking to ISS. Good luck Dragon.</p>
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		<title>By: Satan Claws</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/05/19/spacex-launch-aborted-next-attempt-tuesday/#comment-331755</link>
		<dc:creator>Satan Claws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 10:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ignitio interruptus...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignitio interruptus&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Das Boese</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/05/19/spacex-launch-aborted-next-attempt-tuesday/#comment-331754</link>
		<dc:creator>Das Boese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 06:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>26.   Messier Tidy Upper Says:

&lt;blockquote&gt;As for those who think the Falcon 9‘s nine engines make it overly complicated wonder what they reckon of the Russian manned moon shot design which had something like 30! ;-)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, Falcon Heavy is going to be 3 Falcon 9 cores strapped together for a total of 27 engines which isn&#039;t far behind :D

Seriouly, N1 (the failed soviet moon rocket) is frequently brought up by critics of Falcon 9 and Heavy as an example that a large number of engines spells D-O-O-M.
Needless to say, from an engineering standpoint this is complete nonsense.

Today&#039;s aerospace engineers have incredibly powerful design tools like finite element analysis and CFD at hand, things that people (especially in the Soviet Union) could only dream off back then, and of course control hardware and -software is similarly orders of magnitude more advanced today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>26.   Messier Tidy Upper Says:</p>
<blockquote><p>As for those who think the Falcon 9‘s nine engines make it overly complicated wonder what they reckon of the Russian manned moon shot design which had something like 30! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
<p>Well, Falcon Heavy is going to be 3 Falcon 9 cores strapped together for a total of 27 engines which isn&#8217;t far behind <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriouly, N1 (the failed soviet moon rocket) is frequently brought up by critics of Falcon 9 and Heavy as an example that a large number of engines spells D-O-O-M.<br />
Needless to say, from an engineering standpoint this is complete nonsense.</p>
<p>Today&#8217;s aerospace engineers have incredibly powerful design tools like finite element analysis and CFD at hand, things that people (especially in the Soviet Union) could only dream off back then, and of course control hardware and -software is similarly orders of magnitude more advanced today.</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/05/19/spacex-launch-aborted-next-attempt-tuesday/#comment-331753</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 05:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ ^ Das Boese : Cheers for that. :-)

As for those who think the &lt;i&gt;Falcon 9&lt;/i&gt;&#039;s nine engines make it overly complicated, wonder what they reckon of the Russian manned moon shot design which had something like 30! ;-)

PS. Yep - The Soviet N1 rocket design had :

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;30 NK-15 engines arranged in two rings, the main ring of 24 at the outer edge of the booster, the inner of 6 at about half diameter.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Source : Wikipedia as of now. (Click my name here for the relevant wiki-link.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ^ Das Boese : Cheers for that. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As for those who think the <i>Falcon 9</i>&#8216;s nine engines make it overly complicated, wonder what they reckon of the Russian manned moon shot design which had something like 30! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>PS. Yep &#8211; The Soviet N1 rocket design had :</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;30 NK-15 engines arranged in two rings, the main ring of 24 at the outer edge of the booster, the inner of 6 at about half diameter.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Source : Wikipedia as of now. (Click my name here for the relevant wiki-link.)</p>
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		<title>By: Das Boese</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/05/19/spacex-launch-aborted-next-attempt-tuesday/#comment-331752</link>
		<dc:creator>Das Boese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 17:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>20.   Messier Tidy Upper Says:
May 19th, 2012 at 11:35 pm

&lt;blockquote&gt;Thinking of the Apollo 13 engine loss issue – I wonder if the Falcon 9 had lost one engine , would it still have been capable fo making it to LEO and /or the ISS?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

According to SpaceX, Falcon 9 can complete its mission with an engine failure &quot;at any point during the launch&quot;. I think I&#039;ve read somewhere that (above a certain altitude) they can even make it with 2 engines out, because if one of the outer engines fails they also shut down the opposite one to maintain symmetrical thrust.

People often criticize Falcon 9&#039;s nine-engine design as overly complicated, but redundancy does have its perks. Not to mention enormous cost savings achieved through commonality with the upper stage and Falcon 1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>20.   Messier Tidy Upper Says:<br />
May 19th, 2012 at 11:35 pm</p>
<blockquote><p>Thinking of the Apollo 13 engine loss issue – I wonder if the Falcon 9 had lost one engine , would it still have been capable fo making it to LEO and /or the ISS?</p></blockquote>
<p>According to SpaceX, Falcon 9 can complete its mission with an engine failure &#8220;at any point during the launch&#8221;. I think I&#8217;ve read somewhere that (above a certain altitude) they can even make it with 2 engines out, because if one of the outer engines fails they also shut down the opposite one to maintain symmetrical thrust.</p>
<p>People often criticize Falcon 9&#8242;s nine-engine design as overly complicated, but redundancy does have its perks. Not to mention enormous cost savings achieved through commonality with the upper stage and Falcon 1.</p>
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		<title>By: Nic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 16:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the current US approach to manned spaceflight (from congress I suppose) bizarre.
As a Brit my own government abandoned manned spaceflight or even the idea of it in I dunno 1970 or something? So I was 4.

But what I find SO weird right now is funding for COTS etc is getting cut, cut all the time. Ooh maybe only one commercial vehicle now.. etc. The funding is now way less (half? a third?) of a single shuttle launch.

Re the CNN coverage (IMForeman@15) my guess (as a  Brit - I don&#039;t know) is given enough congressional pork for the status quo as was, SpaceX or anyone else could land a battleship on Mars for 10 cents and get criticized  anyway by any news corporation you can name.

Sorry heavy cold, cynical mood..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the current US approach to manned spaceflight (from congress I suppose) bizarre.<br />
As a Brit my own government abandoned manned spaceflight or even the idea of it in I dunno 1970 or something? So I was 4.</p>
<p>But what I find SO weird right now is funding for COTS etc is getting cut, cut all the time. Ooh maybe only one commercial vehicle now.. etc. The funding is now way less (half? a third?) of a single shuttle launch.</p>
<p>Re the CNN coverage (IMForeman@15) my guess (as a  Brit &#8211; I don&#8217;t know) is given enough congressional pork for the status quo as was, SpaceX or anyone else could land a battleship on Mars for 10 cents and get criticized  anyway by any news corporation you can name.</p>
<p>Sorry heavy cold, cynical mood..</p>
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		<title>By: Renee Marie Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renee Marie Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 13:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gemini 6A!  That was the one.  Back then my whole family was glued to the television for every launch.  That one was scary ... the engines actually started, but then shutdown before liftoff.  Wally Schirra was on that one.  He was one of my real heros.  We were so glad the astronauts were ok.

Thanks Tedd and Ferris!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gemini 6A!  That was the one.  Back then my whole family was glued to the television for every launch.  That one was scary &#8230; the engines actually started, but then shutdown before liftoff.  Wally Schirra was on that one.  He was one of my real heros.  We were so glad the astronauts were ok.</p>
<p>Thanks Tedd and Ferris!</p>
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		<title>By: Ferris Valyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ferris Valyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 05:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the mission that had the abort on Pad was Gemini 6A (the 6A came from a change related to their docking target change).

From Wikipedia

The first attempt to launch the 6A mission (second attempt for Gemini spacecraft No. 6) was on December 12, 1965 at 9:54 a.m. EST.[3] All went well right up to ignition—in fact the engines did ignite, but then a plug fell out of the bottom of the rocket, starting the onboard computer. This was not meant to happen until the rocket had actually lifted off, and the onboard computer detected that there was no upwards motion, causing it to abort the launch.

Anyway, that is the mission in question</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the mission that had the abort on Pad was Gemini 6A (the 6A came from a change related to their docking target change).</p>
<p>From Wikipedia</p>
<p>The first attempt to launch the 6A mission (second attempt for Gemini spacecraft No. 6) was on December 12, 1965 at 9:54 a.m. EST.[3] All went well right up to ignition—in fact the engines did ignite, but then a plug fell out of the bottom of the rocket, starting the onboard computer. This was not meant to happen until the rocket had actually lifted off, and the onboard computer detected that there was no upwards motion, causing it to abort the launch.</p>
<p>Anyway, that is the mission in question</p>
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