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		<title>By: Digitalaxis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/06/17/saturn-raw/#comment-333789</link>
		<dc:creator>Digitalaxis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 14:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@21: Aside from the particular (unknown) filter Cassini used, this IS an unmodified single-shot image.    It&#039;s not in color, which is nearly always the combination of multiple filters at a variety of (often invisible) wavebands, and it appears to be square and without seams, so it&#039;s not a mosaic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@21: Aside from the particular (unknown) filter Cassini used, this IS an unmodified single-shot image.    It&#8217;s not in color, which is nearly always the combination of multiple filters at a variety of (often invisible) wavebands, and it appears to be square and without seams, so it&#8217;s not a mosaic.</p>
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		<title>By: alanborky</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/06/17/saturn-raw/#comment-333788</link>
		<dc:creator>alanborky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 10:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know what you&#039;re getting at Phil but the truth is this&#039;s another of those astronomy &#039;photos&#039; that&#039;s really photo-like or at best a photo montage based illustration.

They do it with these stunning images with titles like Pillars of Creation artistically composing what&#039;re effectively highly stylised graphs from selected elements derived from ex-ray infrared etc shots before boosting them using vast suites of alogrithms and arbitrarily colouring and light enhancing them leaving the unwitting gazer believing this&#039;s what they&#039;d see if they were up in space whereas they&#039;d be lucky to see amorphous greyness even if they had eyes the size of truck tyres.

But you at least admit that (in an understated kind of way).

And don&#039;t worry me daughter&#039;s already bollocked me for spoiling the romance of such imagery for her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what you&#8217;re getting at Phil but the truth is this&#8217;s another of those astronomy &#8216;photos&#8217; that&#8217;s really photo-like or at best a photo montage based illustration.</p>
<p>They do it with these stunning images with titles like Pillars of Creation artistically composing what&#8217;re effectively highly stylised graphs from selected elements derived from ex-ray infrared etc shots before boosting them using vast suites of alogrithms and arbitrarily colouring and light enhancing them leaving the unwitting gazer believing this&#8217;s what they&#8217;d see if they were up in space whereas they&#8217;d be lucky to see amorphous greyness even if they had eyes the size of truck tyres.</p>
<p>But you at least admit that (in an understated kind of way).</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t worry me daughter&#8217;s already bollocked me for spoiling the romance of such imagery for her.</p>
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		<title>By: creeper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/06/17/saturn-raw/#comment-333787</link>
		<dc:creator>creeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 22:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Words fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Words fail.</p>
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		<title>By: Capella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 17:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I see these images nowadays, it brings mixed emotions. The science and imagery are tremendous, and yet there is the knowledge that it will end in 4 years to be replaced with..... nothing - for at least the next 20 years if not permanently. NASA has already publicly admitted that the United States cannot afford to fund missions such as Cassini any more - to the point of pulling out of missions that had begun to get underway. Seeing the &quot;bake sales to raise funds for planetary exploration&quot; protest recently, the likelihood that the US will be able to afford to build and launch spacecraft in the 2020&#039;s to arrive at the outer planets in the 2030&#039;s grows dimmer by the day as well.

One of Phil&#039;s point of emphasis is that &quot;we did this&quot; (!) Equally important is that &quot;we won&#039;t be able to do this in the future&quot;.

Enjoy the Cassini mission while you can. To paraphrase Hunter Thompson, it&#039;s probably the high-water mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I see these images nowadays, it brings mixed emotions. The science and imagery are tremendous, and yet there is the knowledge that it will end in 4 years to be replaced with&#8230;.. nothing &#8211; for at least the next 20 years if not permanently. NASA has already publicly admitted that the United States cannot afford to fund missions such as Cassini any more &#8211; to the point of pulling out of missions that had begun to get underway. Seeing the &#8220;bake sales to raise funds for planetary exploration&#8221; protest recently, the likelihood that the US will be able to afford to build and launch spacecraft in the 2020&#8242;s to arrive at the outer planets in the 2030&#8242;s grows dimmer by the day as well.</p>
<p>One of Phil&#8217;s point of emphasis is that &#8220;we did this&#8221; (!) Equally important is that &#8220;we won&#8217;t be able to do this in the future&#8221;.</p>
<p>Enjoy the Cassini mission while you can. To paraphrase Hunter Thompson, it&#8217;s probably the high-water mark.</p>
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		<title>By: ceramicfundamentalist</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/06/17/saturn-raw/#comment-333785</link>
		<dc:creator>ceramicfundamentalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nigel (13) said:

&quot;I think Voyager 2 is a stronger contender.

Marginally.&quot;

it would be a great debate to have.  i realize of course that voyager 2 completed the grand tour, is one of a handful of probes we have in interstellar space, and will travel quietly through the galaxy for the rest of eternity.  that&#039;s some pretty profound stuff.  cassini, by comparison, only really knows one planet, and will likely have a rather undignified end when it is smashed into saturn&#039;s atmosphere in a few years.

but there are so many things to love about cassini: the delicious orbital mechanics that carry it through it&#039;s crowded neighbourhood; its long and intimate relationship with its host planet; the painfully slow and tantalizing way it is revealing titan to us; the discovery and repeated observations of geysers on a snowball; and yes, the thousands of MIND-BLOWING photos.  gets me excited just thinking about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nigel (13) said:</p>
<p>&#8220;I think Voyager 2 is a stronger contender.</p>
<p>Marginally.&#8221;</p>
<p>it would be a great debate to have.  i realize of course that voyager 2 completed the grand tour, is one of a handful of probes we have in interstellar space, and will travel quietly through the galaxy for the rest of eternity.  that&#8217;s some pretty profound stuff.  cassini, by comparison, only really knows one planet, and will likely have a rather undignified end when it is smashed into saturn&#8217;s atmosphere in a few years.</p>
<p>but there are so many things to love about cassini: the delicious orbital mechanics that carry it through it&#8217;s crowded neighbourhood; its long and intimate relationship with its host planet; the painfully slow and tantalizing way it is revealing titan to us; the discovery and repeated observations of geysers on a snowball; and yes, the thousands of MIND-BLOWING photos.  gets me excited just thinking about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/06/17/saturn-raw/#comment-333784</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, feel sorry for those who can&#039;t appreciate the magnitude of endeavors like Cassini and the photos that result. I don&#039;t mean to cast aspersions, but I think most people are too small-minded and self-focused to appreciate anything beyond their little lives and the people in them. Kind of like ants.

I&#039;m so tired of hearing the idiots who believe the moon landings were a conspiracy, but I&#039;m just as tired of people (some of whom are my friends), telling me that any money spent on space exploration is wasted because it could be helping people on earth. I don&#039;t even have the patience or energy any more to argue back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, feel sorry for those who can&#8217;t appreciate the magnitude of endeavors like Cassini and the photos that result. I don&#8217;t mean to cast aspersions, but I think most people are too small-minded and self-focused to appreciate anything beyond their little lives and the people in them. Kind of like ants.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so tired of hearing the idiots who believe the moon landings were a conspiracy, but I&#8217;m just as tired of people (some of whom are my friends), telling me that any money spent on space exploration is wasted because it could be helping people on earth. I don&#8217;t even have the patience or energy any more to argue back.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Sharp</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/06/17/saturn-raw/#comment-333783</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Sharp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During the Voyager 1 flyby of Saturn, radio amateurs at JPL retransmitted the images over slow scan TV as they came in. Sitting in the university ham station watching as the images came in &quot;live&quot; was an amazing experience, especially in those pre-Internet days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During the Voyager 1 flyby of Saturn, radio amateurs at JPL retransmitted the images over slow scan TV as they came in. Sitting in the university ham station watching as the images came in &#8220;live&#8221; was an amazing experience, especially in those pre-Internet days.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question:
Why do saturn&#039;s rings appear contiguous in space probe images? Is it because of the exposure time for the photo? If I were at that distance viewing with my eyes, would i see them a composed of dust and rocks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question:<br />
Why do saturn&#8217;s rings appear contiguous in space probe images? Is it because of the exposure time for the photo? If I were at that distance viewing with my eyes, would i see them a composed of dust and rocks?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Regan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/06/17/saturn-raw/#comment-333781</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Regan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 13:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cassini recently snapped a dramatic view of Mimas from high above its north pole:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10795027@N08/7164047773/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cassini recently snapped a dramatic view of Mimas from high above its north pole:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/10795027@N08/7164047773/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/10795027@N08/7164047773/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 12:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ceramicfundamentalist (5) said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;the more i see, read and think about the cassini mission the more i become convinced that it is possibly the most astonishing, profound, beautiful thing humankind has ever done.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think Voyager 2 is a stronger contender.

Marginally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ceramicfundamentalist (5) said:</p>
<blockquote><p>the more i see, read and think about the cassini mission the more i become convinced that it is possibly the most astonishing, profound, beautiful thing humankind has ever done.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think Voyager 2 is a stronger contender.</p>
<p>Marginally.</p>
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