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	<title>Comments on: Zoom in  &#8211; and in and IN &#8211; on an Austrian glacier</title>
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		<title>By: Huge photo brings melting glacier to life &#124; &#34;Global Possibilities&#34;</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/09/06/zoom-in-and-in-and-in-on-an-austrian-glacier/#comment-340448</link>
		<dc:creator>Huge photo brings melting glacier to life &#124; &#34;Global Possibilities&#34;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] standing around the banks of the meltwater stream. Slowly zoom back out as you keep an eye on them (h/t Phil Plait).  As big as Pasterze is, though, it&#8217;s been receding for decades amid rising summer [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] standing around the banks of the meltwater stream. Slowly zoom back out as you keep an eye on them (h/t Phil Plait).  As big as Pasterze is, though, it&#8217;s been receding for decades amid rising summer [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JRW (53) said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Today there are lots of stories about bodies and things being found because glaciers are melting – and this airplane is included in one such list.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not quite.

The plane that the troll refers to was deliberately melted out of the ice, but this was done about 20 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JRW (53) said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Today there are lots of stories about bodies and things being found because glaciers are melting – and this airplane is included in one such list.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not quite.</p>
<p>The plane that the troll refers to was deliberately melted out of the ice, but this was done about 20 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoom in ? and in and IN ? on an Austrian glacier &#124; Bad Astronomy &#8230; &#124; lyryreranudy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/09/06/zoom-in-and-in-and-in-on-an-austrian-glacier/#comment-340446</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoom in ? and in and IN ? on an Austrian glacier &#124; Bad Astronomy &#8230; &#124; lyryreranudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 07:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Source: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/09/06/zoom-in-and-in-and-in-on-an-austrian-glaci... [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Source: <a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/09/06/zoom-in-and-in-and-in-on-an-austrian-glaci" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/09/06/zoom-in-and-in-and-in-on-an-austrian-glaci</a>&#8230; [...] </p>
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		<title>By: CatMom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/09/06/zoom-in-and-in-and-in-on-an-austrian-glacier/#comment-340445</link>
		<dc:creator>CatMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are some nice ice caves you can see in NW WA State, up past Granite Falls. Don&#039;t know how they look this year, though. There was a lot of snow last winter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some nice ice caves you can see in NW WA State, up past Granite Falls. Don&#8217;t know how they look this year, though. There was a lot of snow last winter.</p>
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		<title>By: Rift</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/09/06/zoom-in-and-in-and-in-on-an-austrian-glacier/#comment-340444</link>
		<dc:creator>Rift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 17:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What annoys me is we&#039;ve let one denialist, or some of us have, go off topic on a fantastic image.

Oh, he&#039;ll claim it was Phil&#039;s fault for that last sentence.  Which only had a link... which he didn&#039;t have to click on.

That&#039;s the bad thing about trolls, hard not to feed them, and they derail a whole thread.

Great photo Andre, I bet the original one was awe inspiring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What annoys me is we&#8217;ve let one denialist, or some of us have, go off topic on a fantastic image.</p>
<p>Oh, he&#8217;ll claim it was Phil&#8217;s fault for that last sentence.  Which only had a link&#8230; which he didn&#8217;t have to click on.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the bad thing about trolls, hard not to feed them, and they derail a whole thread.</p>
<p>Great photo Andre, I bet the original one was awe inspiring.</p>
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		<title>By: JRW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JRW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 16:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops -I got distracted by the GW argument and forgot to comment on the picture which is fantastic.  Thanks to the photographer not only for creating it, but by making it interactive as well.
And thanks to Phil for sharing it.  I do regularly share photos from your blog with my students, and they find them amazing as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops -I got distracted by the GW argument and forgot to comment on the picture which is fantastic.  Thanks to the photographer not only for creating it, but by making it interactive as well.<br />
And thanks to Phil for sharing it.  I do regularly share photos from your blog with my students, and they find them amazing as well.</p>
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		<title>By: JRW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JRW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 15:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Critiquing this is kind of fun, like solving a logic or critical thinking puzzle.
 “He forgot rain.”  Yes, yes he did.
He suggested that the Artic Ocean’s floating ice has moved with wind and currents.  Well, where is the ice now?
He did ignore the fact that “a rapid increase of temperatures in the Rockies” is not required, merely more time above freezing to increase the “melt in the summer months”.
He did repeatedly fail to acknowledge the difference between” local variations and global averages.”
And actually the Glacier Girl story supports GW when examined.  Today there are lots of stories about bodies and things being found because glaciers are melting – and this airplane is included in one such list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Critiquing this is kind of fun, like solving a logic or critical thinking puzzle.<br />
 “He forgot rain.”  Yes, yes he did.<br />
He suggested that the Artic Ocean’s floating ice has moved with wind and currents.  Well, where is the ice now?<br />
He did ignore the fact that “a rapid increase of temperatures in the Rockies” is not required, merely more time above freezing to increase the “melt in the summer months”.<br />
He did repeatedly fail to acknowledge the difference between” local variations and global averages.”<br />
And actually the Glacier Girl story supports GW when examined.  Today there are lots of stories about bodies and things being found because glaciers are melting – and this airplane is included in one such list.</p>
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		<title>By: Andre vd Hoeven</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/09/06/zoom-in-and-in-and-in-on-an-austrian-glacier/#comment-340441</link>
		<dc:creator>Andre vd Hoeven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 14:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ray Bellis: First of all with 4 frames of a modern DSLR you will never catch this detail, believe me... Second the original was more than double of this, but it&#039;s just to large for upload (110mb). With modern DSLR when doing the same exercise (60 images were used) you would get even more details... But well I don&#039;t have that one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ray Bellis: First of all with 4 frames of a modern DSLR you will never catch this detail, believe me&#8230; Second the original was more than double of this, but it&#8217;s just to large for upload (110mb). With modern DSLR when doing the same exercise (60 images were used) you would get even more details&#8230; But well I don&#8217;t have that one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Messier Tidy Upper</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/09/06/zoom-in-and-in-and-in-on-an-austrian-glacier/#comment-340440</link>
		<dc:creator>Messier Tidy Upper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 14:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also HIRGO~wise folks may find this :

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2012/s3579042.htm

Interesting. Aussie ABC-TV show &lt;i&gt;Lateline&lt;/i&gt; interviews Heidi Cullen - the chief climatologist and a vice president of Climate Central, a media and research organisation focusing on climate change - on August 29th 2012 discussing the record Arctic sea ice melt this year, James Hansens&#039; latest studies and more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also HIRGO~wise folks may find this :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2012/s3579042.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2012/s3579042.htm</a></p>
<p>Interesting. Aussie ABC-TV show <i>Lateline</i> interviews Heidi Cullen &#8211; the chief climatologist and a vice president of Climate Central, a media and research organisation focusing on climate change &#8211; on August 29th 2012 discussing the record Arctic sea ice melt this year, James Hansens&#8217; latest studies and more.</p>
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		<title>By: Sally</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/09/06/zoom-in-and-in-and-in-on-an-austrian-glacier/#comment-340439</link>
		<dc:creator>Sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 13:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How am I supposed to get my work done when you post cool stuff like this??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How am I supposed to get my work done when you post cool stuff like this??</p>
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