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	<title>Comments on: DC comics pins Krypton to the star map</title>
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		<title>By: Nerd deGrasse Tyson &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nerd deGrasse Tyson &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Speaking of Neil Tyson, if you’re a fan of his you’ll be pleased to know that his show, Star Talk Radio, is now going to be part of the Nerdist Channel network! Thats actually a pretty big deal; Chris Hardwick has created this juggernaut of Nerdist and it reaches a lot of folks. [...] </description>
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		<title>By: earl jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>earl jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2012 01:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why would superman need a telescope? I mean the astronomers could have given superman the coordinates and he could have looked for himself from high earth orbit.</description>
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		<title>By: La sélection scientifique de la semaine (no 48) &#124; Passeur de sciences</title>
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		<dc:creator>La sélection scientifique de la semaine (no 48) &#124; Passeur de sciences</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 15:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mais autour de quelle étoile réelle tournait Krypton, la planète d&#039;origine de Superman [...] </description>
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		<title>By: Encontrado KRIPTON, do Super-Homem!!!!!! &#171; ATAH.TIAMAT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Encontrado KRIPTON, do Super-Homem!!!!!! &#171; ATAH.TIAMAT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 15:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nessas condições, o oxigênio e o nitrogênio ainda estão em suas formas gasosas (por pouco!), mas é muito abaixo do ponto de congelamento da água. Portanto, Krypton não parece ser o melhor planeta para que a vida surja. (De repente foi por isso que o Super Homem vazou de lá)&#8230;[UniversoHQ, NewScientist, DiscoverMagazine] [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Nessas condições, o oxigênio e o nitrogênio ainda estão em suas formas gasosas (por pouco!), mas é muito abaixo do ponto de congelamento da água. Portanto, Krypton não parece ser o melhor planeta para que a vida surja. (De repente foi por isso que o Super Homem vazou de lá)&#8230;[UniversoHQ, NewScientist, DiscoverMagazine] [...] </p>
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		<title>By: beer case</title>
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		<dc:creator>beer case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 02:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, living on a planet with higher gravity than Earths, probably makes you stronger than earthlings. But how can it make you fly? Muscles are heavy. No matter how light you would feel in earths gravity field, you still had to carry more weight than normal earthlings.

Besides.. Kal-El would probably never develop musles as strong as other kryptonians, he grew up on Earth after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, living on a planet with higher gravity than Earths, probably makes you stronger than earthlings. But how can it make you fly? Muscles are heavy. No matter how light you would feel in earths gravity field, you still had to carry more weight than normal earthlings.</p>
<p>Besides.. Kal-El would probably never develop musles as strong as other kryptonians, he grew up on Earth after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Annexian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annexian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 19:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To #76 probably a matter furnace...

Like I said, their tech over a long long long time is so advanced that the GUT is as remote as fire to us.  They probably just are able to break matter down into energy.  And also because they&#039;d know what they were doing a &quot;hyperdrive&quot; wouldn&#039;t take anywhere near the energy we&#039;d think it would, along with antigrav and other stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To #76 probably a matter furnace&#8230;</p>
<p>Like I said, their tech over a long long long time is so advanced that the GUT is as remote as fire to us.  They probably just are able to break matter down into energy.  And also because they&#8217;d know what they were doing a &#8220;hyperdrive&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t take anywhere near the energy we&#8217;d think it would, along with antigrav and other stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: geekhillbilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>geekhillbilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superman,like Star Trek ,Batman,James Bond and others has been rebooted to keep up with the times.Still,the identification of Superman&#039;s home solar system is a first.I bet he sees Krypton&#039;s destruction via a telescope.
The ship that brought him to Earth bound to have had a warp or Hyperdrive.Wonder how it was powered? Antimatter? Zero Point Energy? Tap into DeSitter space? Fart gas?Give us a hint,folks.
I do somewhat understand warp mechanics</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superman,like Star Trek ,Batman,James Bond and others has been rebooted to keep up with the times.Still,the identification of Superman&#8217;s home solar system is a first.I bet he sees Krypton&#8217;s destruction via a telescope.<br />
The ship that brought him to Earth bound to have had a warp or Hyperdrive.Wonder how it was powered? Antimatter? Zero Point Energy? Tap into DeSitter space? Fart gas?Give us a hint,folks.<br />
I do somewhat understand warp mechanics</p>
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		<title>By: Geek Media Round-Up: November 8, 2012 &#8211; Grasping for the Wind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geek Media Round-Up: November 8, 2012 &#8211; Grasping for the Wind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Annexian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annexian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 08:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know they retcon these every few years...


But IMO the more or less classic Silver-Byrne era Superman was the best.

That is that Krypton was a long, LOONNNGGG lived civilization and literally had a &quot;Golden Age&quot; when they were like gods but fell from that state in the dimmest recorded past.  That is, it used to be like Earth&#039;s sun, just formed earlier, and became a Red Giant.

So, why aren&#039;t they cooked?


Well, let&#039;s look at how Jor-El designed the &quot;Phantom Zone&quot;.  A single scientist working out a basement universe in his home lab.  They are so advanced that to them the &quot;Grand Unified Theory&quot; is as dim in the past as the invention of fire to us.  Given the &quot;Phantom Zone&quot; alone they could easily have had some kind of automatic system to gradually shift their world&#039;s orbit as the sun grew, or suddenly shift it if it suddenly went big. 

Thus the planet is saved and into a stable orbit to have a similar amount of heat/light for it&#039;s final age, around 300-600 million years before the final burn down to white dwarf.


(it seems the science end changes that story every year, sudden or gradual main sequence to red Giant stage...the length of such a period)


So they had this metabolism evolved or more likely designed to take energy from the sun, but it wasn&#039;t optimized for other star-lights and they&#039;d had a period of decadence and forgot how/what it was when their sun shifted.


Also to survive at all that long they have a &quot;Conservative&quot; culture that re-re-re defines the image of that term.  Thus when they faced their world&#039;s doom they literally chose to die for if they moved as desperate refugees through space their culture would be threatened and therefore their lives as surely as death.


In the Animated series in the 90s they had a good thing going with Braniac being the world computer system.  It realizes this about their culture, that if it revealed the danger they&#039;d try to save their entire culture and run out of time.  The computer essentially decided to live so hid the truth... assuming he was hiding it...  Perhaps he made a deal with the council to be released (he was essentially a slave, facing death for not obeying orders) in exchange for someday re-creating their culture on another world?  The philosophical block he used to stop Jor-El from sabotaging him at the end argues this;  &quot;Temper temper Jor-El.  you could destroy me, you know where to shoot, but consider...  I hold the memory of Krypton.  All the history for countless years.  Who will know that you have ever lived?&quot;


I like how despite it being a simplistic kid&#039;s comic book that counted on it&#039;s readers &quot;Growing up&quot; every 5 years, it having some good sci-fi inserted.


The later &quot;Clone Wars&quot;/Black Zero element for instance.
&quot;You said Krypton rejected religion, save for respect and novelty to worship science.  But you also said that you were at war for 100,000 years over religion...&quot;
&quot;Yes.&quot;
&quot;But how?&quot;
&quot;It was religion in that it was a ... manner of principal.&quot;
&quot;Over what?&quot;
&quot;An aspect of our technology.&quot;
&quot;What was that?  Something too advanced for us?&quot;
&quot;No, it&#039;s something you will develop very soon.  I&#039;ve decided I have no right to interfere.&quot;

(They cloned themselves then when they lost a limb joyriding they just had another.  Or, if they wiped themselves completely they had personality backups daily as they slept.  Black Zero was a pro-clone terrorist movement.  Eventually they got it so Kryptonians had 3 clones each, no more.  Then -Byrne Retcon- they wiped out the city of Kandor and eventually Kryptonians used life preserving body-suits.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know they retcon these every few years&#8230;</p>
<p>But IMO the more or less classic Silver-Byrne era Superman was the best.</p>
<p>That is that Krypton was a long, LOONNNGGG lived civilization and literally had a &#8220;Golden Age&#8221; when they were like gods but fell from that state in the dimmest recorded past.  That is, it used to be like Earth&#8217;s sun, just formed earlier, and became a Red Giant.</p>
<p>So, why aren&#8217;t they cooked?</p>
<p>Well, let&#8217;s look at how Jor-El designed the &#8220;Phantom Zone&#8221;.  A single scientist working out a basement universe in his home lab.  They are so advanced that to them the &#8220;Grand Unified Theory&#8221; is as dim in the past as the invention of fire to us.  Given the &#8220;Phantom Zone&#8221; alone they could easily have had some kind of automatic system to gradually shift their world&#8217;s orbit as the sun grew, or suddenly shift it if it suddenly went big. </p>
<p>Thus the planet is saved and into a stable orbit to have a similar amount of heat/light for it&#8217;s final age, around 300-600 million years before the final burn down to white dwarf.</p>
<p>(it seems the science end changes that story every year, sudden or gradual main sequence to red Giant stage&#8230;the length of such a period)</p>
<p>So they had this metabolism evolved or more likely designed to take energy from the sun, but it wasn&#8217;t optimized for other star-lights and they&#8217;d had a period of decadence and forgot how/what it was when their sun shifted.</p>
<p>Also to survive at all that long they have a &#8220;Conservative&#8221; culture that re-re-re defines the image of that term.  Thus when they faced their world&#8217;s doom they literally chose to die for if they moved as desperate refugees through space their culture would be threatened and therefore their lives as surely as death.</p>
<p>In the Animated series in the 90s they had a good thing going with Braniac being the world computer system.  It realizes this about their culture, that if it revealed the danger they&#8217;d try to save their entire culture and run out of time.  The computer essentially decided to live so hid the truth&#8230; assuming he was hiding it&#8230;  Perhaps he made a deal with the council to be released (he was essentially a slave, facing death for not obeying orders) in exchange for someday re-creating their culture on another world?  The philosophical block he used to stop Jor-El from sabotaging him at the end argues this;  &#8220;Temper temper Jor-El.  you could destroy me, you know where to shoot, but consider&#8230;  I hold the memory of Krypton.  All the history for countless years.  Who will know that you have ever lived?&#8221;</p>
<p>I like how despite it being a simplistic kid&#8217;s comic book that counted on it&#8217;s readers &#8220;Growing up&#8221; every 5 years, it having some good sci-fi inserted.</p>
<p>The later &#8220;Clone Wars&#8221;/Black Zero element for instance.<br />
&#8220;You said Krypton rejected religion, save for respect and novelty to worship science.  But you also said that you were at war for 100,000 years over religion&#8230;&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Yes.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;But how?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;It was religion in that it was a &#8230; manner of principal.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Over what?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;An aspect of our technology.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;What was that?  Something too advanced for us?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;No, it&#8217;s something you will develop very soon.  I&#8217;ve decided I have no right to interfere.&#8221;</p>
<p>(They cloned themselves then when they lost a limb joyriding they just had another.  Or, if they wiped themselves completely they had personality backups daily as they slept.  Black Zero was a pro-clone terrorist movement.  Eventually they got it so Kryptonians had 3 clones each, no more.  Then -Byrne Retcon- they wiped out the city of Kandor and eventually Kryptonians used life preserving body-suits.)</p>
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		<title>By: Neil DeGrasse Tyson is going to be &#8220;chillin like a villain&#8221; with the new Superman &#124;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil DeGrasse Tyson is going to be &#8220;chillin like a villain&#8221; with the new Superman &#124;</dc:creator>
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