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		<title>By: The Sermon &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/22/the-walk-up-mount-wilson/comment-page-1/#comment-1969</link>
		<dc:creator>The Sermon &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 03:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] One thing I talked about (more than I intended to, but that&#8217;s where the spur of the  moment took me) is something that really bothers me a lot. When I go to the parks and the nearby mountains to hike, where are the black people? When I go to the museums, where are the black people? Etc., etc. Why are they not using the resources of the city as much as other groups? Do they not know that they are &#8220;allowed to&#8221;? That they have just as much a right to do so? There was much nodding and shaking of heads, I talked about the discoveries that had been made up Mount Wilson, for example. Nobody knew that you could hike up there, which was remarkable. (On the other hand, I must say here from my encounters around the city that most people -of any ethnic or racial group- don&#8217;t seem to know anything about the role of the telescopes up there in the history of our understanding of our universe.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] One thing I talked about (more than I intended to, but that&#8217;s where the spur of the  moment took me) is something that really bothers me a lot. When I go to the parks and the nearby mountains to hike, where are the black people? When I go to the museums, where are the black people? Etc., etc. Why are they not using the resources of the city as much as other groups? Do they not know that they are &#8220;allowed to&#8221;? That they have just as much a right to do so? There was much nodding and shaking of heads, I talked about the discoveries that had been made up Mount Wilson, for example. Nobody knew that you could hike up there, which was remarkable. (On the other hand, I must say here from my encounters around the city that most people -of any ethnic or racial group- don&#8217;t seem to know anything about the role of the telescopes up there in the history of our understanding of our universe.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Other Office &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/22/the-walk-up-mount-wilson/comment-page-1/#comment-1968</link>
		<dc:creator>The Other Office &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 00:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I decided that I really really needed to get away from it all and get some clarity, so yesterday morning, I packed the essential gear (right - including this wonderful stick made from a tree that grew in my very own garden!) and headed for the hills. Well, the mountains, in fact. The San Gabriel range&#8230;. the huge things you can sometimes see in pictures, lurking behind the towers of downtown LA. The same one that has Mount Wilson&#8230;. You&#8217;ll recall a hike I did there to see the telescopes. This time I decided to go check out the upper part of the Arroyo Seco area&#8230;.for the rocket scientists among you, this (well, the lower part of it) is directly behind Jet Propulsion Laboratory. Actually, I think I passed a fair amount of scientist-types while up there&#8230;. and found myself wondering if any of them read this blog&#8230;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I decided that I really really needed to get away from it all and get some clarity, so yesterday morning, I packed the essential gear (right &#8211; including this wonderful stick made from a tree that grew in my very own garden!) and headed for the hills. Well, the mountains, in fact. The San Gabriel range&#8230;. the huge things you can sometimes see in pictures, lurking behind the towers of downtown LA. The same one that has Mount Wilson&#8230;. You&#8217;ll recall a hike I did there to see the telescopes. This time I decided to go check out the upper part of the Arroyo Seco area&#8230;.for the rocket scientists among you, this (well, the lower part of it) is directly behind Jet Propulsion Laboratory. Actually, I think I passed a fair amount of scientist-types while up there&#8230;. and found myself wondering if any of them read this blog&#8230;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Centauri Dreams &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hubble, Einstein and a Day to Remember</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/22/the-walk-up-mount-wilson/comment-page-1/#comment-1967</link>
		<dc:creator>Centauri Dreams &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hubble, Einstein and a Day to Remember</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 19:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And don&#8217;t miss Johnson&#8217;s wonderful Walk Up Mount Wilson, complete with photographs, further background and the story of a wonderful morning hike. For a man who long resisted writing for a weblog (and for eloquent reasons), Johnson&#8217;s posts have become simply indispensable. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And don&#8217;t miss Johnson&#8217;s wonderful Walk Up Mount Wilson, complete with photographs, further background and the story of a wonderful morning hike. For a man who long resisted writing for a weblog (and for eloquent reasons), Johnson&#8217;s posts have become simply indispensable. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Significant Meeting &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Significant Meeting &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 21:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So instead I&#8217;ll point you to a long post I did the last time my mind went to Hubble and Mount Wilson. I went up there and showed you some of the sights along the way. I bet you never read it, did you? Well, you can find it at this link, and it says more about the physics I mentioned above&#8230;. and there are pictures of telescopes. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So instead I&#8217;ll point you to a long post I did the last time my mind went to Hubble and Mount Wilson. I went up there and showed you some of the sights along the way. I bet you never read it, did you? Well, you can find it at this link, and it says more about the physics I mentioned above&#8230;. and there are pictures of telescopes. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 05:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MobyDikc: Slightly longer answer on the first. Yes. I would say assumptions are challlenged every day. It might be just little ones - not like &quot;What if everyone this century is just plain wrong!? The fools!! Wait until they see this!!&quot; -  but more like &quot;How about I don&#039;t assume that this system has this property, what happens then? Do my basic equations still follow? Or maybe there are new pieces to the equations that I had not thought of....I might have more solutions then.....Hmmm&quot;.

That&#039;s more akin to the day-to-day of assumption-challenging that goes on in the theorist&#039;s office, or on the bus, or in the cafe, or last thing at the bedside table before switching off the light (yes, I&#039;m afraid so - It&#039;s hard to turn off a theoretical physicist*).

Cheers,

-cvj

* Of course I mean &quot;make them stop working on their physics problems&quot;. Come on, stop giggling:...this is a family show folks...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MobyDikc: Slightly longer answer on the first. Yes. I would say assumptions are challlenged every day. It might be just little ones &#8211; not like &#8220;What if everyone this century is just plain wrong!? The fools!! Wait until they see this!!&#8221; &#8211;  but more like &#8220;How about I don&#8217;t assume that this system has this property, what happens then? Do my basic equations still follow? Or maybe there are new pieces to the equations that I had not thought of&#8230;.I might have more solutions then&#8230;..Hmmm&#8221;.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s more akin to the day-to-day of assumption-challenging that goes on in the theorist&#8217;s office, or on the bus, or in the cafe, or last thing at the bedside table before switching off the light (yes, I&#8217;m afraid so &#8211; It&#8217;s hard to turn off a theoretical physicist*).</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
<p>* Of course I mean &#8220;make them stop working on their physics problems&#8221;. Come on, stop giggling:&#8230;this is a family show folks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/22/the-walk-up-mount-wilson/comment-page-1/#comment-1964</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 05:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim: Hi! It&#039;s just a great mountain. What you describe is just a great thing to do. I used to stargaze a lot when I was younger: with binoculars, then a rather terrible telescope that I made, and sometimes accompaneid by star charts.... But I used to do it in a lot warmer climate than a mountaintop in Southern California in the wintertime. But it must  be a great thing to do every year....I had  a bad habit of just going and seeing that my favourite things were there, so I never really learned the sky very well when I was young, as I should have. Are you one of those people who can identify very many objects by name, constellation, etc...? This is where I end up being rather embarrased at all the amatuer astronomy parties.

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim: Hi! It&#8217;s just a great mountain. What you describe is just a great thing to do. I used to stargaze a lot when I was younger: with binoculars, then a rather terrible telescope that I made, and sometimes accompaneid by star charts&#8230;. But I used to do it in a lot warmer climate than a mountaintop in Southern California in the wintertime. But it must  be a great thing to do every year&#8230;.I had  a bad habit of just going and seeing that my favourite things were there, so I never really learned the sky very well when I was young, as I should have. Are you one of those people who can identify very many objects by name, constellation, etc&#8230;? This is where I end up being rather embarrased at all the amatuer astronomy parties.</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 05:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MobyDikc: Answers: Several; Yes.

Thanks for asking.

Cheers,

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MobyDikc: Answers: Several; Yes.</p>
<p>Thanks for asking.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 04:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Los Angeles and I go up to Mount Wilson once a year in the winter for some intense stargazing with my starcharts and binoculars.  It&#039;s beautiful up there, very cold when I go, but beautiful.  Thanks for the great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Los Angeles and I go up to Mount Wilson once a year in the winter for some intense stargazing with my starcharts and binoculars.  It&#8217;s beautiful up there, very cold when I go, but beautiful.  Thanks for the great post!</p>
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		<title>By: MobyDikc</title>
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		<dc:creator>MobyDikc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took a look at your homepage. You say:

&quot;My research interests are mainly concerned with the development of theoretical tools for the description of the basic fabric of Nature.&quot;

I&#039;m inclined to ask, how many basic underlies assumptions have you challenged?

I&#039;m interested in the very same topics: is there something fundamental we&#039;re doing wrong in our theories?

I&#039;ve developed my approach using non-equation-based mathematics which abandons the static universe of special relativity and requires a novel approach to deriving predictions from the model.

I&#039;m wondering if in all your research you&#039;ve heard anyone anywhere ever say something like:

Maybe our models themselves are not only wrong, but so is the method by which we derive predictions from them.

?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took a look at your homepage. You say:</p>
<p>&#8220;My research interests are mainly concerned with the development of theoretical tools for the description of the basic fabric of Nature.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m inclined to ask, how many basic underlies assumptions have you challenged?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested in the very same topics: is there something fundamental we&#8217;re doing wrong in our theories?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve developed my approach using non-equation-based mathematics which abandons the static universe of special relativity and requires a novel approach to deriving predictions from the model.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering if in all your research you&#8217;ve heard anyone anywhere ever say something like:</p>
<p>Maybe our models themselves are not only wrong, but so is the method by which we derive predictions from them.</p>
<p>?</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/22/the-walk-up-mount-wilson/comment-page-1/#comment-1960</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I did not know that! Thanks. Wll try to cross-link this with the &quot;&lt;em&gt;Greatest Physics Paper!&lt;/em&gt;&quot; discussion.

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I did not know that! Thanks. Wll try to cross-link this with the &#8220;<em>Greatest Physics Paper!</em>&#8221; discussion.</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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