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	<title>Comments on: The Road to Aspen</title>
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		<title>By: JoAnne</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/23/the-road-to-aspen/comment-page-1/#comment-2042</link>
		<dc:creator>JoAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 19:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know Magueijo&#039;s book, but I can confirm that Aspen is a great place to do physics.  I have never experienced any unpleasant situations here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know Magueijo&#8217;s book, but I can confirm that Aspen is a great place to do physics.  I have never experienced any unpleasant situations here.</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/23/the-road-to-aspen/comment-page-1/#comment-2041</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 05:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many needlessly inflammatory things were said in that book. It sells books. Does not mean that they have anything to do with reality. I don&#039;t know what he said about Aspen&#039;s atmosphere, but if it is as you say, then that is sad. I&#039;ve been to several places to do physics all over the country and all over the planet. Aspen is in the very top bracket of great places to do physics. I speak as someone who&#039;s been there many times. Did he say how many times he&#039;s been? Maybe he had a misunderstanding there and extrapolated (as autobiographers are wont to do), thus sacrificing some accuracy. All by accident, I imagine.  &lt;br&gt; ;-)

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many needlessly inflammatory things were said in that book. It sells books. Does not mean that they have anything to do with reality. I don&#8217;t know what he said about Aspen&#8217;s atmosphere, but if it is as you say, then that is sad. I&#8217;ve been to several places to do physics all over the country and all over the planet. Aspen is in the very top bracket of great places to do physics. I speak as someone who&#8217;s been there many times. Did he say how many times he&#8217;s been? Maybe he had a misunderstanding there and extrapolated (as autobiographers are wont to do), thus sacrificing some accuracy. All by accident, I imagine.  <br /> <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: Fyodor</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/23/the-road-to-aspen/comment-page-1/#comment-2040</link>
		<dc:creator>Fyodor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 05:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I see that everyone here seems to think that Aspen is, without qualification, a great place. But one has heard some rather unpleasant stories about the atmosphere there, along the lines sketched in Magueijo&#039;s book --- attempted theft of ideas, etc. Any confirm/denies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I see that everyone here seems to think that Aspen is, without qualification, a great place. But one has heard some rather unpleasant stories about the atmosphere there, along the lines sketched in Magueijo&#8217;s book &#8212; attempted theft of ideas, etc. Any confirm/denies?</p>
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		<title>By: JoAnne</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/23/the-road-to-aspen/comment-page-1/#comment-2039</link>
		<dc:creator>JoAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 05:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard,

I&#039;ve been to Moab (gateway to Arches National Park) and found it to be a great town!  And yes, you have demonstrated excellent knowledge of Utah scenery - that pix is indeed from the rest stop on I-70 just before mile marker 180, just east of Green River.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been to Moab (gateway to Arches National Park) and found it to be a great town!  And yes, you have demonstrated excellent knowledge of Utah scenery &#8211; that pix is indeed from the rest stop on I-70 just before mile marker 180, just east of Green River.</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/23/the-road-to-aspen/comment-page-1/#comment-2038</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 05:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On balance, best to leave that out, I would say. You have your voters to think about. More traffic-cop beating paraphenalia in the car equals more babies to kiss. Not good.

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On balance, best to leave that out, I would say. You have your voters to think about. More traffic-cop beating paraphenalia in the car equals more babies to kiss. Not good.</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: JoAnne</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/23/the-road-to-aspen/comment-page-1/#comment-2037</link>
		<dc:creator>JoAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 04:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, you are saying that I shouldn&#039;t mention the radar detector that may (or may not) have been hooked up??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, you are saying that I shouldn&#8217;t mention the radar detector that may (or may not) have been hooked up??</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/23/the-road-to-aspen/comment-page-1/#comment-2036</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 01:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Careful Sean..... &quot;They&#039;re in our midst&quot;. Some may even read this blog.....no...I go too far!

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Careful Sean&#8230;.. &#8220;They&#8217;re in our midst&#8221;. Some may even read this blog&#8230;..no&#8230;I go too far!</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/23/the-road-to-aspen/comment-page-1/#comment-2035</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 01:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they&#039;re pleased because they&#039;re the nicest people on the planet! More or less.

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they&#8217;re pleased because they&#8217;re the nicest people on the planet! More or less.</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/23/the-road-to-aspen/comment-page-1/#comment-2034</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 01:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Associating with Canadians would be a greater electoral liability than being caught speeding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Associating with Canadians would be a greater electoral liability than being caught speeding.</p>
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		<title>By: Moshe Rozali</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/23/the-road-to-aspen/comment-page-1/#comment-2033</link>
		<dc:creator>Moshe Rozali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 01:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean,

Just trying to salvage the aforementioned presidential campaign, chances are she&#039;ll be competing with a Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean,</p>
<p>Just trying to salvage the aforementioned presidential campaign, chances are she&#8217;ll be competing with a Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/23/the-road-to-aspen/comment-page-1/#comment-2032</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 01:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect that Moshe was referring to the common use in Canada of units known as &quot;kilometers,&quot; in which doing 90 is no big deal.  They still use the blatantly non-decimal &quot;hours,&quot; though, so I don&#039;t see why they&#039;re so pleased with themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that Moshe was referring to the common use in Canada of units known as &#8220;kilometers,&#8221; in which doing 90 is no big deal.  They still use the blatantly non-decimal &#8220;hours,&#8221; though, so I don&#8217;t see why they&#8217;re so pleased with themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/23/the-road-to-aspen/comment-page-1/#comment-2031</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moshe...I&#039;m pretty sure that most people do.... 90 is not very high, especially on long open roads cross country. I used to do cross country a lot, so..... Anyway, I was just trying to leave some doubt, in case JoAnne runs for president one day  and the dirt-diggers find archives of the post and this comment thread!
 :-D

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moshe&#8230;I&#8217;m pretty sure that most people do&#8230;. 90 is not very high, especially on long open roads cross country. I used to do cross country a lot, so&#8230;.. Anyway, I was just trying to leave some doubt, in case JoAnne runs for president one day  and the dirt-diggers find archives of the post and this comment thread!<br />
 <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: Moshe Rozali</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/23/the-road-to-aspen/comment-page-1/#comment-2030</link>
		<dc:creator>Moshe Rozali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 23:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cvj,

Canadian cars would do the job, I normally go over 90 on the highway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cvj,</p>
<p>Canadian cars would do the job, I normally go over 90 on the highway.</p>
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		<title>By: spyder</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/23/the-road-to-aspen/comment-page-1/#comment-2029</link>
		<dc:creator>spyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 23:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Summer thunderstorms in the Great Basin region of the US are part of the monsoonal patterns that occur as moisture from both the Gulf of Mexico and the Pacific Coast off Baja/Mexico is pushed north by the various troughs of low pressure that also just happen to form, or have been formed by, those dastardly season hurricanes.  Desert thunderstorms in the Summer are not rare, but can be exceedingly dangerous.

Wasn&#039;t that 90 kph??? so she could be driving along and taking pictures??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Summer thunderstorms in the Great Basin region of the US are part of the monsoonal patterns that occur as moisture from both the Gulf of Mexico and the Pacific Coast off Baja/Mexico is pushed north by the various troughs of low pressure that also just happen to form, or have been formed by, those dastardly season hurricanes.  Desert thunderstorms in the Summer are not rare, but can be exceedingly dangerous.</p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t that 90 kph??? so she could be driving along and taking pictures??</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/23/the-road-to-aspen/comment-page-1/#comment-2028</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 23:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JoAnne: Shhh! I&#039;m not sure you&#039;re publicly supposed to be admitting to speeding !
Oh, of course, you mean 90 using that number system that starts at 25, right? Ah! ;-)

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JoAnne: Shhh! I&#8217;m not sure you&#8217;re publicly supposed to be admitting to speeding !<br />
Oh, of course, you mean 90 using that number system that starts at 25, right? Ah! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/23/the-road-to-aspen/comment-page-1/#comment-2027</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 22:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s nice to read the comments of another Great Basin traveler on US 50. This is one of the great roads of North America. The Shoe Tree is a great grassroots work in progress and worth contributing to.

I am going to guess that the pic on the lower right was taken on I-70 near Green River.

I live in a small Utah town, Moab, that is emphatically not like the rest of Utah. While most of the folks around here recognize ID for the intellectual load of crap it is, it is still disturbing that in the 21st century evolution on every level (stellar, biological, computer automata, etc) is seen as controversial. Stop by on your way home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s nice to read the comments of another Great Basin traveler on US 50. This is one of the great roads of North America. The Shoe Tree is a great grassroots work in progress and worth contributing to.</p>
<p>I am going to guess that the pic on the lower right was taken on I-70 near Green River.</p>
<p>I live in a small Utah town, Moab, that is emphatically not like the rest of Utah. While most of the folks around here recognize ID for the intellectual load of crap it is, it is still disturbing that in the 21st century evolution on every level (stellar, biological, computer automata, etc) is seen as controversial. Stop by on your way home.</p>
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		<title>By: JoAnne</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/23/the-road-to-aspen/comment-page-1/#comment-2026</link>
		<dc:creator>JoAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 21:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, my top speed (according to the GPS) was a bit more than 90 mph....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, my top speed (according to the GPS) was a bit more than 90 mph&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: hack</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/23/the-road-to-aspen/comment-page-1/#comment-2022</link>
		<dc:creator>hack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 21:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The atheistic scientists are ill-informed and are becoming the flat-worlders of the 21st century.&quot;

Apparently he&#039;s confusing scientists with Tom Friedman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The atheistic scientists are ill-informed and are becoming the flat-worlders of the 21st century.&#8221;</p>
<p>Apparently he&#8217;s confusing scientists with Tom Friedman.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Chalmers</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/23/the-road-to-aspen/comment-page-1/#comment-2025</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Chalmers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like the AI though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like the AI though.</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/08/23/the-road-to-aspen/comment-page-1/#comment-2024</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>90 mph? Naughty.

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>90 mph? Naughty.</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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