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		<title>By: Ross</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/03/hurricanes-and-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-2937</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2005 01:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>spyder:

It wasn&#039;t the contractors who were shot.  The group of shooters were the ones who got deaded.  Still your basic point is well taken.  Yes it can get more insane (stay tuned and see).</description>
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<p>It wasn&#8217;t the contractors who were shot.  The group of shooters were the ones who got deaded.  Still your basic point is well taken.  Yes it can get more insane (stay tuned and see).</p>
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		<title>By: spyder</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/03/hurricanes-and-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-2936</link>
		<dc:creator>spyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If one thought it couldn&#039;t get any more insane:  (AP) 3:02 pm PST

NEW ORLEANS - Police shot eight people carrying guns on a New Orleans bridge Sunday, killing five or six, a deputy chief said. A spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers said the victims were contractors on their way to repair a canal.

The contractors were walking across a bridge on their way to launch barges into Lake Pontchartrain to fix the 17th Street Canal, said John Hall, a spokesman for the Corps.

Earlier Sunday, New Orleans Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley said police shot at eight people, killing five or six.

The shootings took place on the Danziger Bridge, which spans a canal connecting Lake Pontchartrain and the Mississippi River.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If one thought it couldn&#8217;t get any more insane:  (AP) 3:02 pm PST</p>
<p>NEW ORLEANS &#8211; Police shot eight people carrying guns on a New Orleans bridge Sunday, killing five or six, a deputy chief said. A spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers said the victims were contractors on their way to repair a canal.</p>
<p>The contractors were walking across a bridge on their way to launch barges into Lake Pontchartrain to fix the 17th Street Canal, said John Hall, a spokesman for the Corps.</p>
<p>Earlier Sunday, New Orleans Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley said police shot at eight people, killing five or six.</p>
<p>The shootings took place on the Danziger Bridge, which spans a canal connecting Lake Pontchartrain and the Mississippi River.</p>
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		<title>By: Torbjorn Larsson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/03/hurricanes-and-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-2935</link>
		<dc:creator>Torbjorn Larsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 14:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm, by &#039;news here&#039; I mean local news, not on the topic as such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm, by &#8216;news here&#8217; I mean local news, not on the topic as such.</p>
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		<title>By: Torbjorn Larsson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/03/hurricanes-and-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-2934</link>
		<dc:creator>Torbjorn Larsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 14:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The latest news here is that the swedish help offer has today been refused into US air space due to lackings in US logistics. So it is stuck here, in standby.

The paper cites the Rescue Services international manager as surprised. It continues to say that his personal judgement, after talking with several collegues in Europe and US, is that US wants to avoid a situation where it can not handle the relief offered. He speculates that the problem is that the relief will be stuck in the airport for several days, thus creating (comparatively more) criticism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The latest news here is that the swedish help offer has today been refused into US air space due to lackings in US logistics. So it is stuck here, in standby.</p>
<p>The paper cites the Rescue Services international manager as surprised. It continues to say that his personal judgement, after talking with several collegues in Europe and US, is that US wants to avoid a situation where it can not handle the relief offered. He speculates that the problem is that the relief will be stuck in the airport for several days, thus creating (comparatively more) criticism.</p>
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		<title>By: jepe</title>
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		<dc:creator>jepe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 14:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last I heard, at least the Superdome is evacuated. So, it&#039;s a start on a very very long road to recovery. As far as accountability, it&#039;s a sure bet that the Rove-Cheney-etc etc team will try to blame local officials in Louisiana and New Orleans.  The spin challenge will be how to spew toxic nonsense efficiently while handling the shakeup w/Rehnquist&#039;s passing at the same time. But I&#039;m confident the Rove-Cheney team is up to the job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last I heard, at least the Superdome is evacuated. So, it&#8217;s a start on a very very long road to recovery. As far as accountability, it&#8217;s a sure bet that the Rove-Cheney-etc etc team will try to blame local officials in Louisiana and New Orleans.  The spin challenge will be how to spew toxic nonsense efficiently while handling the shakeup w/Rehnquist&#8217;s passing at the same time. But I&#8217;m confident the Rove-Cheney team is up to the job.</p>
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		<title>By: Amis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/03/hurricanes-and-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-2932</link>
		<dc:creator>Amis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 09:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And not $</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And not $</p>
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		<title>By: Amis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/03/hurricanes-and-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-2931</link>
		<dc:creator>Amis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 09:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought God would take care of the Republicans in the south.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought God would take care of the Republicans in the south.</p>
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		<title>By: Quantoken</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/03/hurricanes-and-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-2930</link>
		<dc:creator>Quantoken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 08:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened in New Orleans shocked the whole world and deeply disgraced America in front of the whole world.

There is a great contrast here in &lt;a&gt;This photography&lt;/a&gt;.

It is worth noting that the Chinese government donated 5 million dollars as a guesture of sympathy. That is certainly a generosity of astronomical scale, comparing with the two million US &lt;b&gt;cents&lt;/b&gt; the US government donated in the 1991 flood of Eastern China, which affected 50 million people and was far worse, but the people responded in far more rational manner than the people of New Orleans.

It\&#039;s a total disgrace! I just can not put two pictures of New Orleans together that some one who had been without food and water for 5 days and in dying condition can at the same time openly assault and rape women under broad daylights on the streets. Is 5 days without food enough to destroy human dignity? Such lawlessness in unimaginable!

Quantoken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened in New Orleans shocked the whole world and deeply disgraced America in front of the whole world.</p>
<p>There is a great contrast here in <a>This photography</a>.</p>
<p>It is worth noting that the Chinese government donated 5 million dollars as a guesture of sympathy. That is certainly a generosity of astronomical scale, comparing with the two million US <b>cents</b> the US government donated in the 1991 flood of Eastern China, which affected 50 million people and was far worse, but the people responded in far more rational manner than the people of New Orleans.</p>
<p>It\&#8217;s a total disgrace! I just can not put two pictures of New Orleans together that some one who had been without food and water for 5 days and in dying condition can at the same time openly assault and rape women under broad daylights on the streets. Is 5 days without food enough to destroy human dignity? Such lawlessness in unimaginable!</p>
<p>Quantoken</p>
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		<title>By: Savyasachi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Savyasachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 04:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch! I meant East Pakistanis......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch! I meant East Pakistanis&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Savyasachi</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/03/hurricanes-and-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-2928</link>
		<dc:creator>Savyasachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 04:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry to say that the incompetence that the US administration has shown is more than a third-world country like India had over three decades ago; and the one instance I can remember is that of Indira Gandhi refusing to save millions of West Pakistanis in a very avoidable bloodshed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry to say that the incompetence that the US administration has shown is more than a third-world country like India had over three decades ago; and the one instance I can remember is that of Indira Gandhi refusing to save millions of West Pakistanis in a very avoidable bloodshed.</p>
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		<title>By: JoAnne</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/03/hurricanes-and-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-2927</link>
		<dc:creator>JoAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 03:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Merriam-Webster Thesaurus:

Entry Word: incompetence
Function: noun
Text: the lack of sufficient ability, power, or means  -- see INABILITY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Merriam-Webster Thesaurus:</p>
<p>Entry Word: incompetence<br />
Function: noun<br />
Text: the lack of sufficient ability, power, or means  &#8212; see INABILITY</p>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 02:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A global disaster watch group has the following warning, first here is
info about the 1997 incidents:
http://www.news.water.ca.gov/1997.spring/raging-waters.html

&lt;blockquote&gt;
As surely as Hurricane Katrina struck the Gulf of Mexico, at some point  - today,   tomorrow, 10 years or perhaps decades from now - a catastrophic earthquake will   strike California with equally cruel fallout.  But unlike Katrina, there will be no warning signal, no chance to evacuate communities   close to the quake&#039;s epicenter. A major quake near the Sacramento Delta could bring   flooding on an unimagined scale by destroying the 1,100-mile maze of earthen levees, many   built a century or more ago. This is an area 30 times the size of Manhattan that is now   20 to 30 feet below sea level. In addition to inundating Delta communities where some   400,000 people live, the Delta flood would cover millions of acres of agricultural land   and contaminate the water supply for 22 million Californians. These are not just doomsday   predictions. The Association of California Water Agencies reported in a May 2005 report,   &quot;No Time To Waste,&#039;&#039; that &quot;the &quot;risks posed by levee instability, land subsidence, major   flood events, rising sea levels and earthquakes ... could imperil the water supply for   much of the state.&quot;

 It was desperate in the Sacramento area in 1986, when residents had to be rescued by   boat. Again in 1997, there were 40 levee breaks in a 100-mile radius. Today, 1600 miles of shoreline are in a constant state of repair. Three of Sacramento&#039;s   most desirable neighborhoods are at risk. In fact, so are many developments up and down   the valley. &quot;The risk of flooding in Sacramento is higher than most every major   metropolitian city.&quot; Local officials believe that Sacramento is one freak weather season   from a castrophic flood.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/09/01/EDGLIEFLNM1.DTL&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here is an editorial&lt;/A&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A global disaster watch group has the following warning, first here is<br />
info about the 1997 incidents:<br />
<a href="http://www.news.water.ca.gov/1997.spring/raging-waters.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.news.water.ca.gov/1997.spring/raging-waters.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>
As surely as Hurricane Katrina struck the Gulf of Mexico, at some point  &#8211; today,   tomorrow, 10 years or perhaps decades from now &#8211; a catastrophic earthquake will   strike California with equally cruel fallout.  But unlike Katrina, there will be no warning signal, no chance to evacuate communities   close to the quake&#8217;s epicenter. A major quake near the Sacramento Delta could bring   flooding on an unimagined scale by destroying the 1,100-mile maze of earthen levees, many   built a century or more ago. This is an area 30 times the size of Manhattan that is now   20 to 30 feet below sea level. In addition to inundating Delta communities where some   400,000 people live, the Delta flood would cover millions of acres of agricultural land   and contaminate the water supply for 22 million Californians. These are not just doomsday   predictions. The Association of California Water Agencies reported in a May 2005 report,   &#8220;No Time To Waste,&#8221; that &#8220;the &#8220;risks posed by levee instability, land subsidence, major   flood events, rising sea levels and earthquakes &#8230; could imperil the water supply for   much of the state.&#8221;</p>
<p> It was desperate in the Sacramento area in 1986, when residents had to be rescued by   boat. Again in 1997, there were 40 levee breaks in a 100-mile radius. Today, 1600 miles of shoreline are in a constant state of repair. Three of Sacramento&#8217;s   most desirable neighborhoods are at risk. In fact, so are many developments up and down   the valley. &#8220;The risk of flooding in Sacramento is higher than most every major   metropolitian city.&#8221; Local officials believe that Sacramento is one freak weather season   from a castrophic flood.</p></blockquote>
<p><a HREF="http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/09/01/EDGLIEFLNM1.DTL" rel="nofollow">Here is an editorial</a></p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/03/hurricanes-and-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-2925</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 00:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sean. Three comments -

(1) We have Risa to thank for keeping a sharp eye and a clear head and pointing up several of the issues very rapidly (and usefully) here at CV. Thanks Risa!

(2) We have some excellent readers and commenters who helped point to excellent sources, (which I for one was then able to share with everyone by writing posts based on them) and in addition those readers and commenters contributed to the usual high quality of discussion we&#039;re getting used to here. Thanks everyone!

(3) Actually, the discussion is not so much about party politics as it is just trying to bring faster action and some accountability to the people in power who have been entrusted to look after us. Not too much to ask. I for one would be just as angry and vocal  if it were Democrats who had screwed up so royally. We are going to need a focus on infrastructure for emergency rapid response in the future. If we don&#039;t shout about this lack of action and preparedness now, we&#039;ll be partly to blame if we have another mess like this in the future....whoever is in the White House.

Cheers,

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sean. Three comments -</p>
<p>(1) We have Risa to thank for keeping a sharp eye and a clear head and pointing up several of the issues very rapidly (and usefully) here at CV. Thanks Risa!</p>
<p>(2) We have some excellent readers and commenters who helped point to excellent sources, (which I for one was then able to share with everyone by writing posts based on them) and in addition those readers and commenters contributed to the usual high quality of discussion we&#8217;re getting used to here. Thanks everyone!</p>
<p>(3) Actually, the discussion is not so much about party politics as it is just trying to bring faster action and some accountability to the people in power who have been entrusted to look after us. Not too much to ask. I for one would be just as angry and vocal  if it were Democrats who had screwed up so royally. We are going to need a focus on infrastructure for emergency rapid response in the future. If we don&#8217;t shout about this lack of action and preparedness now, we&#8217;ll be partly to blame if we have another mess like this in the future&#8230;.whoever is in the White House.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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