<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Power Dressing</title>
	<atom:link href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/16/power-dressing/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/16/power-dressing/</link>
	<description>Random samplings from a universe of ideas.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:09:16 -0600</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: janet</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/16/power-dressing/comment-page-1/#comment-3596</link>
		<dc:creator>janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 20:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/16/power-dressing/#comment-3596</guid>
		<description>I wasn&#039;t going to post again to this thread, on the principle of not beating a dead horse, but since people are still adding to it I do want to make it clear that I&#039;m not trying to be an apologist either for sloppy reporting or the dumbing down of science education. Quite the opposite. My question wasn&#039;t whether kindergarteners can understand concepts such as &quot;energy&quot; and &quot;flow,&quot; but rather, how to teach these concepts. If not by demonstration or analogy, how? Children aren&#039;t stupid, and in the right circumstances they have a capacity to learn, imagine, and invent that puts the average adult to shame, but their ability to abstract is still developing. The smartest kids often misunderstand abstract concepts in amazingly creative ways. That&#039;s all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t going to post again to this thread, on the principle of not beating a dead horse, but since people are still adding to it I do want to make it clear that I&#8217;m not trying to be an apologist either for sloppy reporting or the dumbing down of science education. Quite the opposite. My question wasn&#8217;t whether kindergarteners can understand concepts such as &#8220;energy&#8221; and &#8220;flow,&#8221; but rather, how to teach these concepts. If not by demonstration or analogy, how? Children aren&#8217;t stupid, and in the right circumstances they have a capacity to learn, imagine, and invent that puts the average adult to shame, but their ability to abstract is still developing. The smartest kids often misunderstand abstract concepts in amazingly creative ways. That&#8217;s all.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: NoJoy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/16/power-dressing/comment-page-1/#comment-3595</link>
		<dc:creator>NoJoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/16/power-dressing/#comment-3595</guid>
		<description>In the post, Clifford mentions polyester, so I well be telling a (possibly apocryphal) story to which he was already alluding. When I was in college, a story ran in the Weekly World News about a man who was electrocuted while removing his polyester clothing from the dryer. The story reported a 40,000-volt shock. Reaction on campus was split. When SEs (science and engineering students) heard the story, they replied, &quot;Yeah, but how many amps?&quot; When academs (liberal arts students) heard the story, they replied, &quot;That&#039;s what you get for wearing polyester.&quot;

And Clifford, is your last comment a general safety warning, or a reference to the similar &quot;heavy boots&quot; story?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the post, Clifford mentions polyester, so I well be telling a (possibly apocryphal) story to which he was already alluding. When I was in college, a story ran in the Weekly World News about a man who was electrocuted while removing his polyester clothing from the dryer. The story reported a 40,000-volt shock. Reaction on campus was split. When SEs (science and engineering students) heard the story, they replied, &#8220;Yeah, but how many amps?&#8221; When academs (liberal arts students) heard the story, they replied, &#8220;That&#8217;s what you get for wearing polyester.&#8221;</p>
<p>And Clifford, is your last comment a general safety warning, or a reference to the similar &#8220;heavy boots&#8221; story?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/16/power-dressing/comment-page-1/#comment-3594</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 03:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/16/power-dressing/#comment-3594</guid>
		<description>...and boots. Don&#039;t forget the boots.

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and boots. Don&#8217;t forget the boots.</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/16/power-dressing/comment-page-1/#comment-3593</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 03:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/16/power-dressing/#comment-3593</guid>
		<description>&quot;So watch out for those deadly amps, folks.&quot;

Oh no!!! My next physics exam is going to be &lt;i&gt;full&lt;/i&gt; of amps. Should I scribble them out and replace them with coulombs per second? Or should I just wear heavy rubber gloves?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So watch out for those deadly amps, folks.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh no!!! My next physics exam is going to be <i>full</i> of amps. Should I scribble them out and replace them with coulombs per second? Or should I just wear heavy rubber gloves?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/16/power-dressing/comment-page-1/#comment-3592</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 21:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/16/power-dressing/#comment-3592</guid>
		<description>Janet. Nope. You just introduced a &lt;em&gt;major&lt;/em&gt; red herring. Nowhere in my discussion did I ask that the editors or journalist stop and explain electricity in their article! That&#039;s ridiculous! I just asked that they consider using the terms and concepts properly, that&#039;s all. That does not take paragraphs to get right. To use the grammar analogy (carefully), we do not ask editors or writers to write a small essay explaining the rules of grammar in every article, we just ask them to use good practice and use those rules properly when writing sentences. Simple really.

Finally, I think you are not giving your five year old friends the credit they deserve. They can understand the difference between &quot;flow&quot; and &quot;energy&quot;, and hence &quot;current&quot; and &quot;voltage&quot;. I betcha!

Cheers,

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janet. Nope. You just introduced a <em>major</em> red herring. Nowhere in my discussion did I ask that the editors or journalist stop and explain electricity in their article! That&#8217;s ridiculous! I just asked that they consider using the terms and concepts properly, that&#8217;s all. That does not take paragraphs to get right. To use the grammar analogy (carefully), we do not ask editors or writers to write a small essay explaining the rules of grammar in every article, we just ask them to use good practice and use those rules properly when writing sentences. Simple really.</p>
<p>Finally, I think you are not giving your five year old friends the credit they deserve. They can understand the difference between &#8220;flow&#8221; and &#8220;energy&#8221;, and hence &#8220;current&#8221; and &#8220;voltage&#8221;. I betcha!</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: janet</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/16/power-dressing/comment-page-1/#comment-3591</link>
		<dc:creator>janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/16/power-dressing/#comment-3591</guid>
		<description>Clifford,

Nope, I&#039;m not going to beat the beJesus out of you -- that was actually very clear, and made a lot more sense than the analogies that people have been using to explain things. The analogies are a useful shortcut, though, if you don&#039;t want to get into the specific details. Anyway, thanks. Notice, though, that it took you several paragraphs. If a reporter brought it in as part of a funny news story about a guy&#039;s suit, the average editor would red-pencil the whole thing. The reporter would have to either avoid technical terms altogether (which would mean paraphrasing the fire officials who were using the terms incorrectly), or find a two-sentence way of explaining the terms. Things would be very different if a reporter were working on a story about some new kind of battery, and that was the point of the story, and the reporter had a couple of days to work on it.

About a year ago I was writing something about tests that a person might undergo as part of a diagnostic process (I can&#039;t remember what it was), and one of the possible tests was an MRI. I just had a few lines, but I wanted to make it as accurate as possible, and besides, I&#039;d never understood how MRIs work, and I was curious. So I did some research and even though I ended up understanding MRI technology a bit better (I still find it somewhat mystifying), it didn&#039;t help me at all with what I had to write, because of the space constraints I had -- all I could really say was that an MRI is a 3-D imaging test that uses a strong magnet. The main topic of the document was not MRI, and I just couldn&#039;t spend much space on it; you might say that it would still be a good thing for the reader to learn more about MRI, but I would have to reply that saying much more about it would be a distraction from the main topic I&#039;m trying to inform them about. Journalists write under similar space and topic constraints, and a lot more time pressure.

I basically agree with you about science education, but I tried to imagine how to introduce these topics to the very bright 5-year-old son of a friend of mine, and I decided that at that level of cognitive development I would have to work through demonstration and analogy -- which doesn&#039;t negate what you&#039;ve said about education, just underscores the importance of knowing your audience.

One last observation: even before all of this, if someone had asked me I would probably have said that &quot;give off Voltage&quot; didn&#039;t make sense, but I couldn&#039;t have explained why, except to say (maybe) that voltage is a property of the object itself. It&#039;s possible to know how words are used without understanding the concepts underlying them.

Now, I am going to use various electrical devices to bake a pie and do some laundry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clifford,</p>
<p>Nope, I&#8217;m not going to beat the beJesus out of you &#8212; that was actually very clear, and made a lot more sense than the analogies that people have been using to explain things. The analogies are a useful shortcut, though, if you don&#8217;t want to get into the specific details. Anyway, thanks. Notice, though, that it took you several paragraphs. If a reporter brought it in as part of a funny news story about a guy&#8217;s suit, the average editor would red-pencil the whole thing. The reporter would have to either avoid technical terms altogether (which would mean paraphrasing the fire officials who were using the terms incorrectly), or find a two-sentence way of explaining the terms. Things would be very different if a reporter were working on a story about some new kind of battery, and that was the point of the story, and the reporter had a couple of days to work on it.</p>
<p>About a year ago I was writing something about tests that a person might undergo as part of a diagnostic process (I can&#8217;t remember what it was), and one of the possible tests was an MRI. I just had a few lines, but I wanted to make it as accurate as possible, and besides, I&#8217;d never understood how MRIs work, and I was curious. So I did some research and even though I ended up understanding MRI technology a bit better (I still find it somewhat mystifying), it didn&#8217;t help me at all with what I had to write, because of the space constraints I had &#8212; all I could really say was that an MRI is a 3-D imaging test that uses a strong magnet. The main topic of the document was not MRI, and I just couldn&#8217;t spend much space on it; you might say that it would still be a good thing for the reader to learn more about MRI, but I would have to reply that saying much more about it would be a distraction from the main topic I&#8217;m trying to inform them about. Journalists write under similar space and topic constraints, and a lot more time pressure.</p>
<p>I basically agree with you about science education, but I tried to imagine how to introduce these topics to the very bright 5-year-old son of a friend of mine, and I decided that at that level of cognitive development I would have to work through demonstration and analogy &#8212; which doesn&#8217;t negate what you&#8217;ve said about education, just underscores the importance of knowing your audience.</p>
<p>One last observation: even before all of this, if someone had asked me I would probably have said that &#8220;give off Voltage&#8221; didn&#8217;t make sense, but I couldn&#8217;t have explained why, except to say (maybe) that voltage is a property of the object itself. It&#8217;s possible to know how words are used without understanding the concepts underlying them.</p>
<p>Now, I am going to use various electrical devices to bake a pie and do some laundry.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: janet</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/16/power-dressing/comment-page-1/#comment-3590</link>
		<dc:creator>janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/16/power-dressing/#comment-3590</guid>
		<description>Tom, you&#039;re kidding about that &quot;it&#039;s/its&quot; comment, right? I see errors of that sort, and much more serious grammar and usage errors, in newspapers all the time. I don&#039;t even react any more, unless it&#039;s something really egregious, such as this true SF Chronicle headline -- headline! -- from a few years ago: &quot;20 Years Later, Insult Still Wrangles.&quot; My sister and I spent a few minutes laughing and scolding over that one, but neither of us wrote to the paper, and I doubt anybody else did, either. Sometimes when I find myself in a group of writers and editors, we spend hours griping about our pet peeves, but aside from doing our best in the trenches, there&#039;s little to do. Not much can be accomplished just by complaining. I&#039;m one of the few people I know who didn&#039;t think much of &quot;Eat Shoots and Leaves,&quot; especially since the author is far from sinless herself.

I rarely correct people&#039;s grammar any more, for a few reasons.

1. A lot of errors are not the result of ignorance, or even sloppiness, but just the inevitable imperfection of human behavior. I&#039;ve noticed a few grammatical errors in posts on this blog, for example, but I can tell from the general quality of the writing here that they are the kinds of errors any good writer makes from time to time, and that even good editors occasionally let slip through (I have found typos in the New Yorker, which is famed for the excellence of its editing). I will not swear that there are no grammatical errors or spelling errors in this comment.

2. People are taught all sorts of bad grammar in elementary school, so that they insist that it&#039;s incorrect to start a sentence with &quot;but&quot; or &quot;and,&quot; or end a sentence with a preposition -- neither of which is a hard-and-fast rule -- and absolutely will not budge, even if you show them a passage in a good grammar reference that supports your argument (the Chicago Manual of Style has a particularly withering critique of these &quot;rules&quot;). Yet these same people create howlingingly funny dangling modifiers and repeatedly confuse subjective and objective pronouns. It is virtually impossible to convince people that they&#039;re, especially if they&#039;re just doing what their 3rd grade teacher taught them. I spend a lot of time talking to doctors who are reviewing manuscripts I&#039;ve written, and they&#039;re always trying to &quot;correct&quot; my grammar. Since I need to be polite, I can&#039;t argue with them -- it is very aggravating.

3. Usage conventions vary: it would be wrong for me to spell &quot;program&quot; with an extra &quot;me&quot; tacked onto the end, or use &quot;s&quot; instead of &quot;c&quot; or &quot;z&quot; in words like &quot;practice&quot; and &quot;patronize,&quot; or spell &quot;favor&quot; with a &quot;u,&quot; but perfectly correct for Clifford to do so, since he uses British spelling; it would therefore be rude and ignorant of me to &quot;correct&quot; him or vice versa. Punctuation conventions also vary in British and American usage.

4. Usage changes. I still remember the first time I heard the word &quot;proactive.&quot; It was the fall of 1985, and I remember my immediate &quot;that&#039;s not a word&quot; reaction. But alas, ugly and redundant as it is, &quot;proactive&quot; has entered the language, and these days I barely flinch when I hear it. And that&#039;s pretty much the way it has to be: language changes, meanings change, ideas about what is and is not &quot;good style&quot; change, and what is or is not &quot;good style&quot; depends on what you&#039;re writing and who the audience is. I happen to be a fan of long, intricate, architecturally complex 19th-century sentences, but when I&#039;m writing a technical document I try to keep my sentences as straight-forward as possible, because the point is not beauty, but clarity (which can be beautiful in itself).

By now you may have concluded that I&#039;m hopelessly relativist and wishy-washy, but that would be incorrect. Rules of grammar and style exist for a good reason: to make written communication possible, and ideally pleasurable. Without some agreement on how a written English sentence is put together, writing and reading become confusing, difficult, and ultimately impossible. The challenge is to write well and read intelligently while keeping in mind that language is open-ended and constantly changing. The thing that bothers me about how writing is taught is not that people aren&#039;t learning the rules right, but that people aren&#039;t learning why the rules matter, and why they should care about them -- which brings me to a point similar to the one that Clifford has been trying to make about the way that science should be taught.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, you&#8217;re kidding about that &#8220;it&#8217;s/its&#8221; comment, right? I see errors of that sort, and much more serious grammar and usage errors, in newspapers all the time. I don&#8217;t even react any more, unless it&#8217;s something really egregious, such as this true SF Chronicle headline &#8212; headline! &#8212; from a few years ago: &#8220;20 Years Later, Insult Still Wrangles.&#8221; My sister and I spent a few minutes laughing and scolding over that one, but neither of us wrote to the paper, and I doubt anybody else did, either. Sometimes when I find myself in a group of writers and editors, we spend hours griping about our pet peeves, but aside from doing our best in the trenches, there&#8217;s little to do. Not much can be accomplished just by complaining. I&#8217;m one of the few people I know who didn&#8217;t think much of &#8220;Eat Shoots and Leaves,&#8221; especially since the author is far from sinless herself.</p>
<p>I rarely correct people&#8217;s grammar any more, for a few reasons.</p>
<p>1. A lot of errors are not the result of ignorance, or even sloppiness, but just the inevitable imperfection of human behavior. I&#8217;ve noticed a few grammatical errors in posts on this blog, for example, but I can tell from the general quality of the writing here that they are the kinds of errors any good writer makes from time to time, and that even good editors occasionally let slip through (I have found typos in the New Yorker, which is famed for the excellence of its editing). I will not swear that there are no grammatical errors or spelling errors in this comment.</p>
<p>2. People are taught all sorts of bad grammar in elementary school, so that they insist that it&#8217;s incorrect to start a sentence with &#8220;but&#8221; or &#8220;and,&#8221; or end a sentence with a preposition &#8212; neither of which is a hard-and-fast rule &#8212; and absolutely will not budge, even if you show them a passage in a good grammar reference that supports your argument (the Chicago Manual of Style has a particularly withering critique of these &#8220;rules&#8221;). Yet these same people create howlingingly funny dangling modifiers and repeatedly confuse subjective and objective pronouns. It is virtually impossible to convince people that they&#8217;re, especially if they&#8217;re just doing what their 3rd grade teacher taught them. I spend a lot of time talking to doctors who are reviewing manuscripts I&#8217;ve written, and they&#8217;re always trying to &#8220;correct&#8221; my grammar. Since I need to be polite, I can&#8217;t argue with them &#8212; it is very aggravating.</p>
<p>3. Usage conventions vary: it would be wrong for me to spell &#8220;program&#8221; with an extra &#8220;me&#8221; tacked onto the end, or use &#8220;s&#8221; instead of &#8220;c&#8221; or &#8220;z&#8221; in words like &#8220;practice&#8221; and &#8220;patronize,&#8221; or spell &#8220;favor&#8221; with a &#8220;u,&#8221; but perfectly correct for Clifford to do so, since he uses British spelling; it would therefore be rude and ignorant of me to &#8220;correct&#8221; him or vice versa. Punctuation conventions also vary in British and American usage.</p>
<p>4. Usage changes. I still remember the first time I heard the word &#8220;proactive.&#8221; It was the fall of 1985, and I remember my immediate &#8220;that&#8217;s not a word&#8221; reaction. But alas, ugly and redundant as it is, &#8220;proactive&#8221; has entered the language, and these days I barely flinch when I hear it. And that&#8217;s pretty much the way it has to be: language changes, meanings change, ideas about what is and is not &#8220;good style&#8221; change, and what is or is not &#8220;good style&#8221; depends on what you&#8217;re writing and who the audience is. I happen to be a fan of long, intricate, architecturally complex 19th-century sentences, but when I&#8217;m writing a technical document I try to keep my sentences as straight-forward as possible, because the point is not beauty, but clarity (which can be beautiful in itself).</p>
<p>By now you may have concluded that I&#8217;m hopelessly relativist and wishy-washy, but that would be incorrect. Rules of grammar and style exist for a good reason: to make written communication possible, and ideally pleasurable. Without some agreement on how a written English sentence is put together, writing and reading become confusing, difficult, and ultimately impossible. The challenge is to write well and read intelligently while keeping in mind that language is open-ended and constantly changing. The thing that bothers me about how writing is taught is not that people aren&#8217;t learning the rules right, but that people aren&#8217;t learning why the rules matter, and why they should care about them &#8212; which brings me to a point similar to the one that Clifford has been trying to make about the way that science should be taught.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Plato</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/16/power-dressing/comment-page-1/#comment-3589</link>
		<dc:creator>Plato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/16/power-dressing/#comment-3589</guid>
		<description>1.&lt;b&gt;Sean&lt;/b&gt;:&lt;i&gt;which characterizes the potential &quot;oomph&quot; in the flow&lt;/i&gt;

2.&lt;b&gt;citrine&lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;The peak of a tall mountain has a large gravitational potential relative to the bottom.&lt;/i&gt;

3.&lt;b&gt;Arun&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;powerwasher jet would be a high voltage, low current flow,

water spilling over the top of a New Orleans levee would be low voltage, high current flow;

water at the turbine in a hydreelectric dam such as at
http://users.owt.com/chubbard/gcdam/html/hydro.html
would be high voltage, high current,

and your kitchen faucet would be a low voltage, low current flow.&lt;/i&gt;

Sorry I couldn&#039;t repsond sooner to answer Clifford. I am answering quickly here as I have to go, yet I want to be clear here. I&#039;ll come back tomorrow.

In terms of the &quot;field&quot; Inverse Square law. The &quot;electrical potential&quot; in gravitational collapse, as a cosmological process.

Photon, informaton &quot;released&quot; and held to event?

&quot;Measure&quot; in terms of distance from that event &quot;in time&quot; till now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.<b>Sean</b>:<i>which characterizes the potential &#8220;oomph&#8221; in the flow</i></p>
<p>2.<b>citrine</b><i>The peak of a tall mountain has a large gravitational potential relative to the bottom.</i></p>
<p>3.<b>Arun</b> <i>powerwasher jet would be a high voltage, low current flow,</p>
<p>water spilling over the top of a New Orleans levee would be low voltage, high current flow;</p>
<p>water at the turbine in a hydreelectric dam such as at<br />
<a href="http://users.owt.com/chubbard/gcdam/html/hydro.html" rel="nofollow">http://users.owt.com/chubbard/gcdam/html/hydro.html</a><br />
would be high voltage, high current,</p>
<p>and your kitchen faucet would be a low voltage, low current flow.</i></p>
<p>Sorry I couldn&#8217;t repsond sooner to answer Clifford. I am answering quickly here as I have to go, yet I want to be clear here. I&#8217;ll come back tomorrow.</p>
<p>In terms of the &#8220;field&#8221; Inverse Square law. The &#8220;electrical potential&#8221; in gravitational collapse, as a cosmological process.</p>
<p>Photon, informaton &#8220;released&#8221; and held to event?</p>
<p>&#8220;Measure&#8221; in terms of distance from that event &#8220;in time&#8221; till now?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: CapitalistImperialistPig</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/16/power-dressing/comment-page-1/#comment-3588</link>
		<dc:creator>CapitalistImperialistPig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 05:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/16/power-dressing/#comment-3588</guid>
		<description>Bitter grad student - OK, but grad school was truly fun for me, studying physics, the camraderie, even the problem sets.

On the other hand, writing up my dissertation in those pre TeX days really sucked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bitter grad student &#8211; OK, but grad school was truly fun for me, studying physics, the camraderie, even the problem sets.</p>
<p>On the other hand, writing up my dissertation in those pre TeX days really sucked.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tom Renbarger</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/16/power-dressing/comment-page-1/#comment-3587</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Renbarger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2005 19:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/09/16/power-dressing/#comment-3587</guid>
		<description>Another way to think of the point Clifford makes in comment 34 -- consider if a newspaper made a mistake along the lines of confusing your/you&#039;re or it&#039;s/its.  There would (rightly) be howls of outrage at the silliness of such an error by professional journalists.  But an error between voltage/current passes (nearly :-)) without comment, even though in relation to the subject, the distinction is about as basic as the difference between possessive pronouns and contractions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another way to think of the point Clifford makes in comment 34 &#8212; consider if a newspaper made a mistake along the lines of confusing your/you&#8217;re or it&#8217;s/its.  There would (rightly) be howls of outrage at the silliness of such an error by professional journalists.  But an error between voltage/current passes (nearly <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) without comment, even though in relation to the subject, the distinction is about as basic as the difference between possessive pronouns and contractions.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
