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		<title>By: Another Reason Scientists Don&#8217;t Always Make Great Storytellers &#124; Cosmic Variance &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Reason Scientists Don&#8217;t Always Make Great Storytellers &#124; Cosmic Variance &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The world is not magic. At least, that is, the actual real world around us. That&#8217;s the great insight we&#8217;ve achieved over the course of centuries of scientific investigation into the universe. It all follows rules; everything has an explanation (which is not the same as everything having a reason). [...]</description>
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		<description>[...] The world is not magic &#124; Cosmic Variance The world is not magic. The world follows patterns, obeys unbreakable rules. We never reach a point, in exploring our universe, where we reach an ineffable mystery and must give up on rational explanation; our world is comprehensible, it makes sense. I can’t imagine saying it better. There is no way of proving once and for all that the world is not magic; all we can do is point to an extraordinarily long and impressive list of formerly-mysterious things that we were ultimately able to make sense of. There’s every reason to believe that this streak of successes will continue, and no reason to believe it will end. If everyone understood this, the world would be a better place. (tags: story science religion physics philosophy magic fundamentalism atheism) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The world is not magic | Cosmic Variance The world is not magic. The world follows patterns, obeys unbreakable rules. We never reach a point, in exploring our universe, where we reach an ineffable mystery and must give up on rational explanation; our world is comprehensible, it makes sense. I can’t imagine saying it better. There is no way of proving once and for all that the world is not magic; all we can do is point to an extraordinarily long and impressive list of formerly-mysterious things that we were ultimately able to make sense of. There’s every reason to believe that this streak of successes will continue, and no reason to believe it will end. If everyone understood this, the world would be a better place. (tags: story science religion physics philosophy magic fundamentalism atheism) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marriage and Fundamental Physics &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/10/10/the-world-is-not-magic/comment-page-1/#comment-4982</link>
		<dc:creator>Marriage and Fundamental Physics &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 21:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Our ancestors lived in an enchanted world, where the boundary between the physical and the moral and the spiritual was not very clearly drawn. It made perfect sense, at the time, to attribute to the external world the same kinds of meanings and impulses that one found in the human world &#8212; purposes, consciousnesses, moral judgments. One of the great accomplishments of modernity was to construct a new way of understanding the world &#8212; one based on understandable, formal rules. These days we understand that the world is not magic. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Our ancestors lived in an enchanted world, where the boundary between the physical and the moral and the spiritual was not very clearly drawn. It made perfect sense, at the time, to attribute to the external world the same kinds of meanings and impulses that one found in the human world &#8212; purposes, consciousnesses, moral judgments. One of the great accomplishments of modernity was to construct a new way of understanding the world &#8212; one based on understandable, formal rules. These days we understand that the world is not magic. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gauge theory errors corrected by facts, giving tested predictions &#171; Gauge theory mechanisms</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gauge theory errors corrected by facts, giving tested predictions &#171; Gauge theory mechanisms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ‘The world is not magic. The world follows patterns, obeys unbreakable rules. We never reach a point, in exploring our universe, where we reach an ineffable mystery and must give up on rational explanation; our world is comprehensible, it makes sense. I can’t imagine saying it better. There is no way of proving once and for all that the world is not magic; all we can do is point to an extraordinarily long and impressive list of formerly-mysterious things that we were ultimately able to make sense of. There’s every reason to believe that this streak of successes will continue, and no reason to believe it will end. If everyone understood this, the world would be a better place.’ – Prof. Sean Carroll, here [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Quantum gravity mechanism and predictions &#171; Quantum field theory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quantum gravity mechanism and predictions &#171; Quantum field theory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 22:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#039;The world is not magic. The world follows patterns, obeys unbreakable rules. We never reach a point, in exploring our universe, where we reach an ineffable mystery and must give up on rational explanation; our world is comprehensible, it makes sense. I can&#039;t imagine saying it better. There is no way of proving once and for all that the world is not magic; all we can do is point to an extraordinarily long and impressive list of formerly-mysterious things that we were ultimately able to make sense of. There&#039;s every reason to believe that this streak of successes will continue, and no reason to believe it will end. If everyone understood this, the world would be a better place.&#039; â€&quot; Prof. Sean Carroll, here [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8216;The world is not magic. The world follows patterns, obeys unbreakable rules. We never reach a point, in exploring our universe, where we reach an ineffable mystery and must give up on rational explanation; our world is comprehensible, it makes sense. I can&#8217;t imagine saying it better. There is no way of proving once and for all that the world is not magic; all we can do is point to an extraordinarily long and impressive list of formerly-mysterious things that we were ultimately able to make sense of. There&#8217;s every reason to believe that this streak of successes will continue, and no reason to believe it will end. If everyone understood this, the world would be a better place.&#8217; â€&#8221; Prof. Sean Carroll, here [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Because the world is not magic - 1st Paragraph .com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Because the world is not magic - 1st Paragraph .com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 15:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The world is not magic. The world follows patterns, obeys unbreakable rules. We never reach a point, in exploring our universe, where we reach an ineffable mystery and must give up on rational explanation; our world is comprehensible, it makes sense&#8230; [More: Cosmic Variance] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The world is not magic &#124; Cosmic Variance &#171; Thoughtsblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The world is not magic &#124; Cosmic Variance &#171; Thoughtsblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 07:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cosmic Variance Links: cosmicvariance.com [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Do You Believe in Magic? &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/10/10/the-world-is-not-magic/comment-page-1/#comment-4977</link>
		<dc:creator>Do You Believe in Magic? &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As we&#8217;ve discussed here at Cosmic Variance before - The World is not Magic. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cosmic Variance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Do You Believe in Magic?&lt;/strong&gt;

	I&#8217;m about to teach and then fly to D.C. to do some of that wonderfully fun government work that we are occasionally called upon for. But I couldn&#8217;t leave before pointing out an interesting story by Benedict Carey in today&#8217;s Science T...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Do You Believe in Magic?</strong></p>
<p>	I&#8217;m about to teach and then fly to D.C. to do some of that wonderfully fun government work that we are occasionally called upon for. But I couldn&#8217;t leave before pointing out an interesting story by Benedict Carey in today&#8217;s Science T&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gidiron excitement &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gidiron excitement &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 16:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Congratulations also to the Penn State Nittany Lions, whose Orange Bowl win the previous night extended coach Joe Paterno&#8217;s record number of bowl wins to 21. It&#8217;s a world in which magic is where we find it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Congratulations also to the Penn State Nittany Lions, whose Orange Bowl win the previous night extended coach Joe Paterno&#8217;s record number of bowl wins to 21. It&#8217;s a world in which magic is where we find it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Renbarger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Renbarger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 01:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Little sister&#039;s answer is freaking brilliant.  I wish I had thought of it.</description>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/10/10/the-world-is-not-magic/comment-page-1/#comment-4973</link>
		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,

&quot;Why are planetary orbits elliptical&quot; is answered by &quot;how bodies move with a  inverse square law force&quot;, &quot;why does sickle cell anemia persist in human populations&quot; is answered by &quot;how natural selection works with a recessive trait&quot;.

Our &quot;why&quot; questions are answered by a description, sometimes mathematical, concise and precise; and sometimes somewhat wordy; and the description is about how something happens.  Why is gravity an inverse square law force?  We can answer that if it reduces to a &quot;how&quot; question in a quantum field theory or string theory.

 &quot;Why anything exists at all?&quot; needs to be recast in the &quot;how&quot; mold.  E.g, given the Big Bang, how various structures form is available, but &quot;why the Big Bang?&quot; will need something more (maybe a &quot;how&quot; description from branes in string theory?)

Of course, the ultimate theory will have to describe itself in this &quot;how&quot; fashion, otherwise, the &quot;why&quot; question will remain - why this particular theory? The ultimate theory, of course, has a loophole, the answer to the why could be that the ultimate theory is unique.  Still, the &quot;why the ultimate theory?&quot; is likely to remain the one unanswerable question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>&#8220;Why are planetary orbits elliptical&#8221; is answered by &#8220;how bodies move with a  inverse square law force&#8221;, &#8220;why does sickle cell anemia persist in human populations&#8221; is answered by &#8220;how natural selection works with a recessive trait&#8221;.</p>
<p>Our &#8220;why&#8221; questions are answered by a description, sometimes mathematical, concise and precise; and sometimes somewhat wordy; and the description is about how something happens.  Why is gravity an inverse square law force?  We can answer that if it reduces to a &#8220;how&#8221; question in a quantum field theory or string theory.</p>
<p> &#8220;Why anything exists at all?&#8221; needs to be recast in the &#8220;how&#8221; mold.  E.g, given the Big Bang, how various structures form is available, but &#8220;why the Big Bang?&#8221; will need something more (maybe a &#8220;how&#8221; description from branes in string theory?)</p>
<p>Of course, the ultimate theory will have to describe itself in this &#8220;how&#8221; fashion, otherwise, the &#8220;why&#8221; question will remain &#8211; why this particular theory? The ultimate theory, of course, has a loophole, the answer to the why could be that the ultimate theory is unique.  Still, the &#8220;why the ultimate theory?&#8221; is likely to remain the one unanswerable question.</p>
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		<title>By: The long bomb &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
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		<dc:creator>The long bomb &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Here at Cosmic Variance we&#8217;re all about the football/physics crossovers. But even we have our limits. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Here at Cosmic Variance we&#8217;re all about the football/physics crossovers. But even we have our limits. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lil</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/10/10/the-world-is-not-magic/comment-page-1/#comment-4971</link>
		<dc:creator>Lil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, the world is not magic. However, I would offer that the truth (reality) is more fantastic, amazing and wonderful than anything that we could make up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, the world is not magic. However, I would offer that the truth (reality) is more fantastic, amazing and wonderful than anything that we could make up.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/10/10/the-world-is-not-magic/comment-page-1/#comment-4970</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2005 12:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Physics does not try to answer &quot;why&quot; but &quot;how&quot;

I&#039;ve never really understood why people say that. Perhaps
they mean something special by &quot;why question&quot;. But on
the face of it physics did a good job with, just to take one
of zillions of examples, &quot;why are planetary orbits elliptical?&quot;,
and in biology, how about, &quot;why does sickle cell anemia
persist in human populations?&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Physics does not try to answer &#8220;why&#8221; but &#8220;how&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never really understood why people say that. Perhaps<br />
they mean something special by &#8220;why question&#8221;. But on<br />
the face of it physics did a good job with, just to take one<br />
of zillions of examples, &#8220;why are planetary orbits elliptical?&#8221;,<br />
and in biology, how about, &#8220;why does sickle cell anemia<br />
persist in human populations?&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: erc</title>
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		<dc:creator>erc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2005 01:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Physics does not try to answer &quot;why&quot; but &quot;how&quot;, I would say. &quot;How does matter appear?&quot; is an interesting question, you are quite correct. I&#039;ll leave it to an expert to provide an answer though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Physics does not try to answer &#8220;why&#8221; but &#8220;how&#8221;, I would say. &#8220;How does matter appear?&#8221; is an interesting question, you are quite correct. I&#8217;ll leave it to an expert to provide an answer though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/10/10/the-world-is-not-magic/comment-page-1/#comment-4968</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2005 01:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The world follows patterns, obeys unbreakable rules. We never reach a point, in exploring our universe, where we reach an ineffable mystery and must give up on rational explanation&quot;

Then pray let me know why anything exists at all?</description>
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<p>Then pray let me know why anything exists at all?</p>
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		<title>By: Risa</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/10/10/the-world-is-not-magic/comment-page-1/#comment-4967</link>
		<dc:creator>Risa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2005 04:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic.</description>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/10/10/the-world-is-not-magic/comment-page-1/#comment-4966</link>
		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,

Thanks!  The full lecture from which the Max Weber quote was taken is worth reading, it is here:

http://www2.pfeiffer.edu/~lridener/DSS/Weber/scivoc.html

Another excerpt:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Under these internal presuppositions, what is the meaning of science as a vocation, now after all these former illusions, the &#039;way to true being,&#039; the &#039;way to true art,&#039; the &#039;way to true nature,&#039; the &#039;way to true God,&#039; the &#039;way to true happiness,&#039; have been dispelled? Tolstoi has given the simplest answer, with the words: &#039;Science is meaningless because it gives no answer to our question, the only question important for us: &quot;What shall we do and how shall we live?&quot; &#039; That science does not give an answer to this is indisputable. The only question that remains is the sense in which science gives &#039;no&#039; answer, and whether or not science might yet be of some use to the one who puts the question correctly.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,</p>
<p>Thanks!  The full lecture from which the Max Weber quote was taken is worth reading, it is here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www2.pfeiffer.edu/~lridener/DSS/Weber/scivoc.html" rel="nofollow">http://www2.pfeiffer.edu/~lridener/DSS/Weber/scivoc.html</a></p>
<p>Another excerpt:</p>
<blockquote><p>Under these internal presuppositions, what is the meaning of science as a vocation, now after all these former illusions, the &#8216;way to true being,&#8217; the &#8216;way to true art,&#8217; the &#8216;way to true nature,&#8217; the &#8216;way to true God,&#8217; the &#8216;way to true happiness,&#8217; have been dispelled? Tolstoi has given the simplest answer, with the words: &#8216;Science is meaningless because it gives no answer to our question, the only question important for us: &#8220;What shall we do and how shall we live?&#8221; &#8216; That science does not give an answer to this is indisputable. The only question that remains is the sense in which science gives &#8216;no&#8217; answer, and whether or not science might yet be of some use to the one who puts the question correctly.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<description>Do you guys ever read any sociology?

Back in 1919 Max Weber famously had this to say about the impact of science in the modern world:

&quot;The fate of our times is characterized by rationalization and intellectualization and, above all, by the &quot;disenchantment of the world.&quot; Precisely the ultimate and most sublime values have retreated from public life either into the transcendental realm of mystic life or into the brotherliness of direct and personal human relations. It is not accidental that our greatest art is intimate and not monumental.&quot; (see e.g. http://www.bartleby.com/66/46/63446.html)

Sociologists have been debating why the scientific &quot;disenchantment of the world&quot;  hasn&#039;t led to a terminal decline in religion ever since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you guys ever read any sociology?</p>
<p>Back in 1919 Max Weber famously had this to say about the impact of science in the modern world:</p>
<p>&#8220;The fate of our times is characterized by rationalization and intellectualization and, above all, by the &#8220;disenchantment of the world.&#8221; Precisely the ultimate and most sublime values have retreated from public life either into the transcendental realm of mystic life or into the brotherliness of direct and personal human relations. It is not accidental that our greatest art is intimate and not monumental.&#8221; (see e.g. <a href="http://www.bartleby.com/66/46/63446.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bartleby.com/66/46/63446.html</a>)</p>
<p>Sociologists have been debating why the scientific &#8220;disenchantment of the world&#8221;  hasn&#8217;t led to a terminal decline in religion ever since.</p>
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