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		<title>By: The Message That Is Sent &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/10/11/its-not-the-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-5053</link>
		<dc:creator>The Message That Is Sent &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 23:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In the short term, I worry that the most obvious effect will be a deleterious one for the bloggers. For the most part, I don&#8217;t think that hiring/tenure committees care if you have a blog, occasional anonymous scare-mongering notwithstanding. (It might even help.) But blogging about the process might be the kind of thing that makes committees nervous. Personally, I would never blog about a major occupational transition while it was going on; when it&#8217;s all set up and the ink is drying, it makes sense to let people know, but in the middle of the process I would be (with good reason) worried about stepping on people&#8217;s toes. (Same thing with getting engaged.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In the short term, I worry that the most obvious effect will be a deleterious one for the bloggers. For the most part, I don&#8217;t think that hiring/tenure committees care if you have a blog, occasional anonymous scare-mongering notwithstanding. (It might even help.) But blogging about the process might be the kind of thing that makes committees nervous. Personally, I would never blog about a major occupational transition while it was going on; when it&#8217;s all set up and the ink is drying, it makes sense to let people know, but in the middle of the process I would be (with good reason) worried about stepping on people&#8217;s toes. (Same thing with getting engaged.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BoÃ®te noire &#187; Archive du blog &#187; Blogs et carriÃ¨res universitaires</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/10/11/its-not-the-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-5052</link>
		<dc:creator>BoÃ®te noire &#187; Archive du blog &#187; Blogs et carriÃ¨res universitaires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 02:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Les deux cas de refus de poste Ã  des blogueurs qui viennent immÃ©diatement Ã  l&#8217;esprit sont des refus de tenure, survenus aux Ã‰tats-Unis, et qui concernaient le politologue Daniel Drezner et le physicien Sean Caroll, qui a pris le soin d&#8217;indiquer que, selon lui, le blog n&#8217;a eu aucune incidence dans la dÃ©cision de ses pairs (son blog collectif, Cosmic Variance, contient aussi une lecture intÃ©ressante de l&#8217;article citÃ© plus haut). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Les deux cas de refus de poste Ã  des blogueurs qui viennent immÃ©diatement Ã  l&#8217;esprit sont des refus de tenure, survenus aux Ã‰tats-Unis, et qui concernaient le politologue Daniel Drezner et le physicien Sean Caroll, qui a pris le soin d&#8217;indiquer que, selon lui, le blog n&#8217;a eu aucune incidence dans la dÃ©cision de ses pairs (son blog collectif, Cosmic Variance, contient aussi une lecture intÃ©ressante de l&#8217;article citÃ© plus haut). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Natelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Natelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 03:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is an attitude on the part of many serious academics that &lt;em&gt;anything&lt;/em&gt; that takes time away from research, whether it&#039;s teaching, outreach, textbook writing, blogging, and for some even family life, is a misallocation of time that could be spent furthering one&#039;s research impact.  We&#039;ve all seen this in action - comments like if you&#039;re a junior faculty member who gets really strong course reviews, it&#039;s probably a sign that you&#039;re spending too much time on your teaching....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is an attitude on the part of many serious academics that <em>anything</em> that takes time away from research, whether it&#8217;s teaching, outreach, textbook writing, blogging, and for some even family life, is a misallocation of time that could be spent furthering one&#8217;s research impact.  We&#8217;ve all seen this in action &#8211; comments like if you&#8217;re a junior faculty member who gets really strong course reviews, it&#8217;s probably a sign that you&#8217;re spending too much time on your teaching&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Roughtheory.org &#187; The Relationship of Blogging to Academic Work</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/10/11/its-not-the-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-5050</link>
		<dc:creator>Roughtheory.org &#187; The Relationship of Blogging to Academic Work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 03:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The impact of this article was accentuated by the near-contemporaneous decision by the University of Chicago not to tenure two prominent academic bloggers - Sean Carroll and Daniel Drezner. The University of Chicago&#8217;s actions prompted a burst of blogosphere speculation on whether the tenure decision related in any way to blogging, speculation which ultimately bled into the mainstream print news. While both Drezner and Carroll appear agnostic over the relationship between their blogging and their tenure decisions, their fates, combined with the very public castigation of jobseeking bloggers in the Chronicle, sparked a cascade of reflections on the wisdom of blogging by untenured academics. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The impact of this article was accentuated by the near-contemporaneous decision by the University of Chicago not to tenure two prominent academic bloggers &#8211; Sean Carroll and Daniel Drezner. The University of Chicago&#8217;s actions prompted a burst of blogosphere speculation on whether the tenure decision related in any way to blogging, speculation which ultimately bled into the mainstream print news. While both Drezner and Carroll appear agnostic over the relationship between their blogging and their tenure decisions, their fates, combined with the very public castigation of jobseeking bloggers in the Chronicle, sparked a cascade of reflections on the wisdom of blogging by untenured academics. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Risky Business? &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/10/11/its-not-the-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-5049</link>
		<dc:creator>Risky Business? &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 21:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We&#8217;ve chatted (see e.g. here) about blogging and academia, and some of the scares associated to it, (largely due to ignorance which is hopefully short-lived). I&#8217;ve also told you about the meeting I was in last week where several interested parties brainstormed about the issue. Here&#8217;s another article* about the matter, this time by Robert S. Boynton, in Slate magazine, sensationally entitled: Attack of the Career-Killing Blogs - When academics post online, do they risk their jobs?  Looks like he&#8217;s been chatting with Crooked Timber&#8217;s John Holbo, who was one of my fellow brainstormers last friday. He&#8217;s been thinking about several approaches to making academic blogging more accessible and more&#8230; acceptable. Some of his thoughts (many of which would be excellent to implement) are in the article. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We&#8217;ve chatted (see e.g. here) about blogging and academia, and some of the scares associated to it, (largely due to ignorance which is hopefully short-lived). I&#8217;ve also told you about the meeting I was in last week where several interested parties brainstormed about the issue. Here&#8217;s another article* about the matter, this time by Robert S. Boynton, in Slate magazine, sensationally entitled: Attack of the Career-Killing Blogs &#8211; When academics post online, do they risk their jobs?  Looks like he&#8217;s been chatting with Crooked Timber&#8217;s John Holbo, who was one of my fellow brainstormers last friday. He&#8217;s been thinking about several approaches to making academic blogging more accessible and more&#8230; acceptable. Some of his thoughts (many of which would be excellent to implement) are in the article. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dissident</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dissident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JoAnne wrote: &quot;Which says something about the state of people&#039;s impressions about blogging.&quot;

It says more than something about the state of people&#039;s impressions about academia...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JoAnne wrote: &#8220;Which says something about the state of people&#8217;s impressions about blogging.&#8221;</p>
<p>It says more than something about the state of people&#8217;s impressions about academia&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kmeson</title>
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		<dc:creator>kmeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 22:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean -
  This post addresses the question &quot;Were you discriminated against due to your status as a blogger?&quot;  I wonder if you think that your status as a member of an even more often discriminated against group might have played any roll in the decision?  &quot;Were you discriminated against due to your status as an atheist?&quot; I did not pick up on any thing like that kind of hostility while I was there but I was just a lowly grad student.
 Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean -<br />
  This post addresses the question &#8220;Were you discriminated against due to your status as a blogger?&#8221;  I wonder if you think that your status as a member of an even more often discriminated against group might have played any roll in the decision?  &#8220;Were you discriminated against due to your status as an atheist?&#8221; I did not pick up on any thing like that kind of hostility while I was there but I was just a lowly grad student.<br />
 Cheers,</p>
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		<title>By: jaimito</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaimito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;loyalty&quot; and &quot;dedication&quot; things mentioned above are the key to understand this tenure situation.

In every job I had, my bosses wanted blind and total devotion from me, and were driven to irrational jealousy by my extra-curricular activities. I was sacked for writing and lecturing, and that it was done in my own time was not accepted.

And my attitude toward my own people was/is worse and even more unjust. I spend a lot of time wondering about what are doing and thinking, whom they are seeing and talking to. I am only relaxed when I feel I have a complete grip of the person&#039;s life and I have him/her classified in a safe box. Safe for me, I mean.

Sean is wrong to assume that his colleagues were unaware or uninterested in his blogging activity. Everybody is intensely, passionately interested in others sexual life and personal connections. And if the dynosaurs in the Dept. did not understand a thing about blogging - it is worse for you, they formed their opinion on the basis of two-world comments (which probably didnt hear clearly).

Sorry, I am old enough and far away to tell what I think is real life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;loyalty&#8221; and &#8220;dedication&#8221; things mentioned above are the key to understand this tenure situation.</p>
<p>In every job I had, my bosses wanted blind and total devotion from me, and were driven to irrational jealousy by my extra-curricular activities. I was sacked for writing and lecturing, and that it was done in my own time was not accepted.</p>
<p>And my attitude toward my own people was/is worse and even more unjust. I spend a lot of time wondering about what are doing and thinking, whom they are seeing and talking to. I am only relaxed when I feel I have a complete grip of the person&#8217;s life and I have him/her classified in a safe box. Safe for me, I mean.</p>
<p>Sean is wrong to assume that his colleagues were unaware or uninterested in his blogging activity. Everybody is intensely, passionately interested in others sexual life and personal connections. And if the dynosaurs in the Dept. did not understand a thing about blogging &#8211; it is worse for you, they formed their opinion on the basis of two-world comments (which probably didnt hear clearly).</p>
<p>Sorry, I am old enough and far away to tell what I think is real life.</p>
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		<title>By: Also not quite anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Also not quite anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2005 23:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Is physics just a job?&quot;

I come from another less funded area of academia so I&#039;m looking at this from a different angle. I think if academia was not regarded as a vocation like some kind of intellectual priesthood, then employment conditions would improve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Is physics just a job?&#8221;</p>
<p>I come from another less funded area of academia so I&#8217;m looking at this from a different angle. I think if academia was not regarded as a vocation like some kind of intellectual priesthood, then employment conditions would improve.</p>
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		<title>By: ed hessler</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed hessler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2005 21:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I read about Mr. Drenzler, I took the occasion to review some of your posts on preposterous.  Wow, were/are they preposterously good, full of good energy and zest; smart and thoughtful. I&#039;ve learned a lot from them (I think), at least my life has been enriched by them.

I was made sad again by the tenure decision but for those of us outside academia and perhaps for those of you inside, this is one of the great mystery/black boxes.

One of the things that I appreciate about you, Sean and now the cosmic group, is that as experts you don&#039;t hold me at arm&#039;s length. You make me feel welcome to your world as you try your level best to help me understand enough of it to enjoy, appreciate and be awed by the mystery of it all, the mystery that delights, enchants and bathes our souls and minds in wonder. The other side of it was captured in that incredible comment made by the former teacher with whom you talked: &quot;The world is not magic.&quot;  It is knowable. That is wonder!

Thanks again for your informed comments on blogging and tenure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I read about Mr. Drenzler, I took the occasion to review some of your posts on preposterous.  Wow, were/are they preposterously good, full of good energy and zest; smart and thoughtful. I&#8217;ve learned a lot from them (I think), at least my life has been enriched by them.</p>
<p>I was made sad again by the tenure decision but for those of us outside academia and perhaps for those of you inside, this is one of the great mystery/black boxes.</p>
<p>One of the things that I appreciate about you, Sean and now the cosmic group, is that as experts you don&#8217;t hold me at arm&#8217;s length. You make me feel welcome to your world as you try your level best to help me understand enough of it to enjoy, appreciate and be awed by the mystery of it all, the mystery that delights, enchants and bathes our souls and minds in wonder. The other side of it was captured in that incredible comment made by the former teacher with whom you talked: &#8220;The world is not magic.&#8221;  It is knowable. That is wonder!</p>
<p>Thanks again for your informed comments on blogging and tenure.</p>
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		<title>By: JoAnne</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2005 18:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly don&#039;t think that blogging played a role in the regretful decision of the University of Chicago physics department to deny tenure to Sean.  But it&#039;s the first thing that everyone assumes.  Which says something about the state of people&#039;s impressions about blogging.

Sean has a bright future and will land on his feet.  However, Chicago will grow to regret their decision - it can haunt them in many ways.  For example, they have an open search right now for an assistant prof in high energy theory.  If their top candidate has multiple offers (not unusual for top people), he/she might think twice about accepting an untenured position at Chicago.


Admin says:

I think something that isn&#039;t well understood outside academia is how the process of continually &quot;being weighed and found wanting&quot; extends from well before tenure to long afterwards.

Amen!  Couldn&#039;t have said it better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly don&#8217;t think that blogging played a role in the regretful decision of the University of Chicago physics department to deny tenure to Sean.  But it&#8217;s the first thing that everyone assumes.  Which says something about the state of people&#8217;s impressions about blogging.</p>
<p>Sean has a bright future and will land on his feet.  However, Chicago will grow to regret their decision &#8211; it can haunt them in many ways.  For example, they have an open search right now for an assistant prof in high energy theory.  If their top candidate has multiple offers (not unusual for top people), he/she might think twice about accepting an untenured position at Chicago.</p>
<p>Admin says:</p>
<p>I think something that isn&#8217;t well understood outside academia is how the process of continually &#8220;being weighed and found wanting&#8221; extends from well before tenure to long afterwards.</p>
<p>Amen!  Couldn&#8217;t have said it better.</p>
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		<title>By: Not quite anonymous... still</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/10/11/its-not-the-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-5042</link>
		<dc:creator>Not quite anonymous... still</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2005 06:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also not quite anonymous,

Is physics just a job?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also not quite anonymous,</p>
<p>Is physics just a job?</p>
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		<title>By: AndyS</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/10/11/its-not-the-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-5041</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2005 05:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you say, Sean, the rewards of the job are such that the competition is fierce which puts enormous power in the hands of those who get to decide on who gets to do what.  That was my experience in graduate school as well as in Silicon Valley, and my conclusion is not much different that your musings.  Although not all the power brokers require it, most demand to see single-minded devotion to &quot;the cause&quot; -- whether it is the pursuit of knowledge or the corporation&#039;s bottom line -- even while mouthing the expected phrases about living a full life.  So it is easy for me to believe some on the tenure committee would frown on candidates spending time blogging.

The other issue is one of loyalty.  As a successful blogger you are visible in a way that more senior non-blogging faculty are not.  As strange as it may seem, some will see that as being disloyal, you have in a warped sense stepped ahead in line.  While that&#039;s not a rational view, it is an all too human one.

Given the number of highly qualified people from all over the world trying to land tenured jobs in prominent institutions and high-paying, powerful jobs in corporations, who succeeds becomes more about who achieves best-fit in the local social structures than about whose work is the most effective by whatever standard their profession applies.  That may sound like sour-geek-grapes, but I know of no one who would disagree with the general truth of the observation.

So we take our skills elsewhere and seek a &quot;best-fit&quot; with a different group of people with whom we would like to associate.  That change often comes at great personal cost -- a sad reality of wondering about in the upper reaches of ones profession.

I like your blogging and think the outreach you do is vital to an informed society and just plain interesting to this non-physist.  Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you say, Sean, the rewards of the job are such that the competition is fierce which puts enormous power in the hands of those who get to decide on who gets to do what.  That was my experience in graduate school as well as in Silicon Valley, and my conclusion is not much different that your musings.  Although not all the power brokers require it, most demand to see single-minded devotion to &#8220;the cause&#8221; &#8212; whether it is the pursuit of knowledge or the corporation&#8217;s bottom line &#8212; even while mouthing the expected phrases about living a full life.  So it is easy for me to believe some on the tenure committee would frown on candidates spending time blogging.</p>
<p>The other issue is one of loyalty.  As a successful blogger you are visible in a way that more senior non-blogging faculty are not.  As strange as it may seem, some will see that as being disloyal, you have in a warped sense stepped ahead in line.  While that&#8217;s not a rational view, it is an all too human one.</p>
<p>Given the number of highly qualified people from all over the world trying to land tenured jobs in prominent institutions and high-paying, powerful jobs in corporations, who succeeds becomes more about who achieves best-fit in the local social structures than about whose work is the most effective by whatever standard their profession applies.  That may sound like sour-geek-grapes, but I know of no one who would disagree with the general truth of the observation.</p>
<p>So we take our skills elsewhere and seek a &#8220;best-fit&#8221; with a different group of people with whom we would like to associate.  That change often comes at great personal cost &#8212; a sad reality of wondering about in the upper reaches of ones profession.</p>
<p>I like your blogging and think the outreach you do is vital to an informed society and just plain interesting to this non-physist.  Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Also not quite anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Also not quite anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2005 03:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why shouldn&#039;t an academic become an expert banjo player as well? Is it reasonable to expect a job to take over your entire life?</description>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2005 03:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think something that isn&#039;t well understood outside academia is how the process of continually &quot;being weighed and found wanting&quot; extends from well before tenure to long afterwards.  A faculty member can never do enough (or high enough quality) research to satisfy the dean, can never teach to the satisfaction of all of his or her students, and can never be the perfect department or campus citizen. A successful academic career requires compromise, and where a faculty member&#039;s personal priorities run counter to the priorities and expectations of the local community, things can get unpleasant. But &quot;academia&quot; isn&#039;t a monoculture, and for every department that looks down on public outreach there is another that sees it as a positive, just as for each department that thinks subfield X is mature and uninteresting, another believes it to be the home of unresolved questions of fundamental importance. Finding both a sympathetic environment and interested/interesting colleagues is the trick. Fortunately, both Daniel and Sean are talented, energetic, and yes high profile enough that they should find attractive professional homes.
I&#039;ve been in two top-five departments and been both a chair and a dean. The departments and universities were similar in some ways: in both, research was the first, second, and third most important variable for tenure. (Although mediocre teaching or service at either place would veto an otherwise good candidate, superb teaching could not make up for mediocre research.) The departments were very different in other ways, though.  One was and is &quot;selfish&quot; in the sense of the Chicago departments, willing to make multiple errors of rejecting good candidates in order to avoid &quot;making a mistake&quot; and tenuring the wrong person. The other tenures most candidates who reach that stage, but has much more extensive pre and post tenure reviews. I can&#039;t say I see a significant difference in the quality of the resulting departments, though there is a definite difference in the quality of life for junior faculty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think something that isn&#8217;t well understood outside academia is how the process of continually &#8220;being weighed and found wanting&#8221; extends from well before tenure to long afterwards.  A faculty member can never do enough (or high enough quality) research to satisfy the dean, can never teach to the satisfaction of all of his or her students, and can never be the perfect department or campus citizen. A successful academic career requires compromise, and where a faculty member&#8217;s personal priorities run counter to the priorities and expectations of the local community, things can get unpleasant. But &#8220;academia&#8221; isn&#8217;t a monoculture, and for every department that looks down on public outreach there is another that sees it as a positive, just as for each department that thinks subfield X is mature and uninteresting, another believes it to be the home of unresolved questions of fundamental importance. Finding both a sympathetic environment and interested/interesting colleagues is the trick. Fortunately, both Daniel and Sean are talented, energetic, and yes high profile enough that they should find attractive professional homes.<br />
I&#8217;ve been in two top-five departments and been both a chair and a dean. The departments and universities were similar in some ways: in both, research was the first, second, and third most important variable for tenure. (Although mediocre teaching or service at either place would veto an otherwise good candidate, superb teaching could not make up for mediocre research.) The departments were very different in other ways, though.  One was and is &#8220;selfish&#8221; in the sense of the Chicago departments, willing to make multiple errors of rejecting good candidates in order to avoid &#8220;making a mistake&#8221; and tenuring the wrong person. The other tenures most candidates who reach that stage, but has much more extensive pre and post tenure reviews. I can&#8217;t say I see a significant difference in the quality of the resulting departments, though there is a definite difference in the quality of life for junior faculty.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2005 03:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who is familiar with your contributions
cosmology/string theory, and your broader contributions
to physics and science in general I think the University&#039;s
decision is unfourtunate and incorrect. I have benefited from
your efforts as an active researcher (as many have)  and
I hope you will continue to do research in whatever way possible.

I truly wish you the best of luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who is familiar with your contributions<br />
cosmology/string theory, and your broader contributions<br />
to physics and science in general I think the University&#8217;s<br />
decision is unfourtunate and incorrect. I have benefited from<br />
your efforts as an active researcher (as many have)  and<br />
I hope you will continue to do research in whatever way possible.</p>
<p>I truly wish you the best of luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Belizean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belizean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful post, Sean.

If only there was some way to do theoretical physics without being an academic.

Sometimes I wonder what would have happened had Einstein faced the pressure to frequently publish citation-gathering papers, rather than having enjoyed the presure-free peace and independence of the Swiss patent office.

Given that the altenative to academia is more likely to be mentally (and spiritually) taxing employment in some sort capitalist enterprise (rather than slower paced government service), who knows what sort of physics gems were never discovered?

Feynman was also sensitive to academic career pressure.  I remember reading that during his Cornell days things weren&#039;t going well for him physics-wise.   Everything changed as soon has he consciously decided to simply have fun.  He ignored the pressure, just worked on what interested him, and had faith that things would work out.  The problem is that many young physicists aren&#039;t strong enough to do this.

Re Blogging, I think you&#039;ve made a case for doing it anonymously.  Why take a chance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful post, Sean.</p>
<p>If only there was some way to do theoretical physics without being an academic.</p>
<p>Sometimes I wonder what would have happened had Einstein faced the pressure to frequently publish citation-gathering papers, rather than having enjoyed the presure-free peace and independence of the Swiss patent office.</p>
<p>Given that the altenative to academia is more likely to be mentally (and spiritually) taxing employment in some sort capitalist enterprise (rather than slower paced government service), who knows what sort of physics gems were never discovered?</p>
<p>Feynman was also sensitive to academic career pressure.  I remember reading that during his Cornell days things weren&#8217;t going well for him physics-wise.   Everything changed as soon has he consciously decided to simply have fun.  He ignored the pressure, just worked on what interested him, and had faith that things would work out.  The problem is that many young physicists aren&#8217;t strong enough to do this.</p>
<p>Re Blogging, I think you&#8217;ve made a case for doing it anonymously.  Why take a chance?</p>
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		<title>By: Not quite anonymous...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not quite anonymous...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean,

Now I understand why my Physics professors have been not so good with the teaching. It makes sense that if you have to spend more time getting your name on papers, then your students will suffer (for example, telling them you do not have time to help them figure out where they are going wrong with a simple (to them) undergraduate problem).

Is this something that&#039;s generally true? Or is it a property of UoC? Is cosmic variance accepting undergraduates in Physics yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean,</p>
<p>Now I understand why my Physics professors have been not so good with the teaching. It makes sense that if you have to spend more time getting your name on papers, then your students will suffer (for example, telling them you do not have time to help them figure out where they are going wrong with a simple (to them) undergraduate problem).</p>
<p>Is this something that&#8217;s generally true? Or is it a property of UoC? Is cosmic variance accepting undergraduates in Physics yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Suz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2005 01:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean,
I really appreciated this post, partly because I&#039;ve been thinking about a related topic: what makes someone &quot;fit&quot; into a particular field in academia? I don&#039;t think getting an academic position is as meritocratic as many would believe - I think it has more to do with fitting whatever image is set forth by those already in the club. Anyway, that&#039;s all I want to say for now, aside from best wishes for your job search.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean,<br />
I really appreciated this post, partly because I&#8217;ve been thinking about a related topic: what makes someone &#8220;fit&#8221; into a particular field in academia? I don&#8217;t think getting an academic position is as meritocratic as many would believe &#8211; I think it has more to do with fitting whatever image is set forth by those already in the club. Anyway, that&#8217;s all I want to say for now, aside from best wishes for your job search.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2005 01:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack, it&#039;s true that the constant evaluation and competition is a real downside of academia.  On the other hand, just reading various posts right here on this blog should give you plenty of examples of upsides.  There must be plenty of upside, or nobody would want to do it, and there wouldn&#039;t be any competition!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack, it&#8217;s true that the constant evaluation and competition is a real downside of academia.  On the other hand, just reading various posts right here on this blog should give you plenty of examples of upsides.  There must be plenty of upside, or nobody would want to do it, and there wouldn&#8217;t be any competition!</p>
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