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	<title>Comments on: Farewell, Childhood Home</title>
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		<title>By: Alex R</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/11/11/farewell-childhood-home/comment-page-1/#comment-6649</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 11:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh, I know nothing about the merits or deficits of Busch Stadium, but this seemed like a good time to point out that &quot;perfectly good&quot; is one of those expressions that means pretty much the opposite of its surface meaning:  When someone says to his or her partner &quot;Why do you want to throw out my perfectly good shirt?&quot; one suspects that that shirt is in something less than grade-A condition...

So to my ear, JoAnne&#039;s defense of the stadium is less than ringing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh, I know nothing about the merits or deficits of Busch Stadium, but this seemed like a good time to point out that &#8220;perfectly good&#8221; is one of those expressions that means pretty much the opposite of its surface meaning:  When someone says to his or her partner &#8220;Why do you want to throw out my perfectly good shirt?&#8221; one suspects that that shirt is in something less than grade-A condition&#8230;</p>
<p>So to my ear, JoAnne&#8217;s defense of the stadium is less than ringing.</p>
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		<title>By: JoAnne</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 06:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henry,

Check the schedule of the St. Louis Symphony.  Several of my former classmates play in it, so I am completely biased, but it&#039;s probably worth at least checking out.

PS:  I loved that round cookie-cutter stadium!  Been going to games there for 37 years (gosh, that seems impossible given I&#039;m only 29!) and never had a bad seat.  Even the straight-A student freebie tickets were fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry,</p>
<p>Check the schedule of the St. Louis Symphony.  Several of my former classmates play in it, so I am completely biased, but it&#8217;s probably worth at least checking out.</p>
<p>PS:  I loved that round cookie-cutter stadium!  Been going to games there for 37 years (gosh, that seems impossible given I&#8217;m only 29!) and never had a bad seat.  Even the straight-A student freebie tickets were fun!</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Holland</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/11/11/farewell-childhood-home/comment-page-1/#comment-6647</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Holland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 03:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What J-Dog said.  I went to Busch in 1993 and it was horrible.  A round seating area = bad for baseball. My friend and I were in the upper deck and it felt like we were in Illinois, the field was so far away.

As for the &quot;Why don&#039;t they spend the money elsewhere&quot; aspect :

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From Ballparks.com
Cost: $344.8 million
Public financing: $45 million long-term loan from St. Louis County.
Private financing: $90.1 million from the Cardinals, $9.2 million in interest earned on the construction fund, and $200.5 million in bonds to be paid over a 22-year period ($15.9 million per year) by the team. Anheuser-Busch agreed to a 20 year naming rights deal (through the 2025 season) which will help offset construction costs.
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So, unless my reading comprehsion has completely left me, the public in St. Louis won&#039;t pay anything after the loan/bonds are paid off--yes, that $20 million or so won&#039;t be there yearly, but still.   The new stadium next door looks like it&#039;s going to be amazing so it&#039;s a win-win in my book.  I was hoping that the Opera Theatre of St. Louis was doing something interesting in 2006 so I could justify a trip to St. Louis for a ballgame/opera weekend, but alas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What J-Dog said.  I went to Busch in 1993 and it was horrible.  A round seating area = bad for baseball. My friend and I were in the upper deck and it felt like we were in Illinois, the field was so far away.</p>
<p>As for the &#8220;Why don&#8217;t they spend the money elsewhere&#8221; aspect :</p>
<p>****<br />
From Ballparks.com<br />
Cost: $344.8 million<br />
Public financing: $45 million long-term loan from St. Louis County.<br />
Private financing: $90.1 million from the Cardinals, $9.2 million in interest earned on the construction fund, and $200.5 million in bonds to be paid over a 22-year period ($15.9 million per year) by the team. Anheuser-Busch agreed to a 20 year naming rights deal (through the 2025 season) which will help offset construction costs.<br />
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<p>So, unless my reading comprehsion has completely left me, the public in St. Louis won&#8217;t pay anything after the loan/bonds are paid off&#8211;yes, that $20 million or so won&#8217;t be there yearly, but still.   The new stadium next door looks like it&#8217;s going to be amazing so it&#8217;s a win-win in my book.  I was hoping that the Opera Theatre of St. Louis was doing something interesting in 2006 so I could justify a trip to St. Louis for a ballgame/opera weekend, but alas.</p>
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		<title>By: Little Einsteins &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Little Einsteins &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] See, it&#8217;s us! Sean and Clifford are in the back. Risa&#8217;s in the front. And I&#8217;m the goofy red-head driving the spaceship. You can tell it&#8217;s me cuz (a) nobody else has such weird hair and (b) I&#8217;ve steered our spaceship to St. Louis. We&#8217;ve just passed The Arch and I&#8217;m turning the ship around for one last look at Busch Stadium before it&#8217;s completely demolished. Mark is absent from the photo as, due to his own admission, he doesn&#8217;t like pictures of himself. Besides, we could only fit 4 in the spaceship and he drew the short straw. The editorial review of the production is quick to point out that the characters are instantly likeable with a passion for music and adventure. The journey proves complex, but the ever-cheerful group uses their musical knowledge, careful listening skills, and ingenuity to ensure success. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] See, it&#8217;s us! Sean and Clifford are in the back. Risa&#8217;s in the front. And I&#8217;m the goofy red-head driving the spaceship. You can tell it&#8217;s me cuz (a) nobody else has such weird hair and (b) I&#8217;ve steered our spaceship to St. Louis. We&#8217;ve just passed The Arch and I&#8217;m turning the ship around for one last look at Busch Stadium before it&#8217;s completely demolished. Mark is absent from the photo as, due to his own admission, he doesn&#8217;t like pictures of himself. Besides, we could only fit 4 in the spaceship and he drew the short straw. The editorial review of the production is quick to point out that the characters are instantly likeable with a passion for music and adventure. The journey proves complex, but the ever-cheerful group uses their musical knowledge, careful listening skills, and ingenuity to ensure success. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bittergradstudent</title>
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		<dc:creator>bittergradstudent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 19:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And long live Neifi!  May he stay in the Cubs lineup for all time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And long live Neifi!  May he stay in the Cubs lineup for all time!</p>
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		<title>By: J-Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>J-Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good riddence to bad rubbish.  It was a piece of plastic garbage out of the cookie-cutter mold.  Baseball shopuld be played on grass at baseball parks, not stadiums.  Long live Wrigley Field!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good riddence to bad rubbish.  It was a piece of plastic garbage out of the cookie-cutter mold.  Baseball shopuld be played on grass at baseball parks, not stadiums.  Long live Wrigley Field!</p>
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		<title>By: bittergradstudent</title>
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		<dc:creator>bittergradstudent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the owners came up with the idea during the McGwire days (back when I still lived in StL, and read the post-dispatch semi-regularly).  It&#039;s taken them this long to fight through the opposition that they got from pretty much everyone.  No more games at Busch, no more broadcasts on KMOX radio (on a good day, I could still get KMOX even down here in the South).  Going to a game at new busch is going to be very disturbing, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the owners came up with the idea during the McGwire days (back when I still lived in StL, and read the post-dispatch semi-regularly).  It&#8217;s taken them this long to fight through the opposition that they got from pretty much everyone.  No more games at Busch, no more broadcasts on KMOX radio (on a good day, I could still get KMOX even down here in the South).  Going to a game at new busch is going to be very disturbing, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: jepe</title>
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		<dc:creator>jepe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Argghhhh.... as an ex-st.louisan who went to this stadium as a kid, this is difficult to hear.  I&#039;m assuming this plan has been in the works for a while....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argghhhh&#8230;. as an ex-st.louisan who went to this stadium as a kid, this is difficult to hear.  I&#8217;m assuming this plan has been in the works for a while&#8230;.</p>
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