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	<title>Comments on: Our First Guest Blogger &#8211; Lawrence Krauss</title>
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		<title>By: Chomsky, Krauss, and me &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chomsky, Krauss, and me &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I was going to say that these guys might be famous, but do they have their own blogs? No! Except, of course, Lawrence was our very first guest-blogger, so that counts for something. And, I remembered, Noam Chomsky actually does have a blog. A funny one that consists of answers to occasional interview questions asked by someone from Z magazine, but I suppose it counts. Man, everybody has a blog these days. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I was going to say that these guys might be famous, but do they have their own blogs? No! Except, of course, Lawrence was our very first guest-blogger, so that counts for something. And, I remembered, Noam Chomsky actually does have a blog. A funny one that consists of answers to occasional interview questions asked by someone from Z magazine, but I suppose it counts. Man, everybody has a blog these days. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Al Wloch</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/11/14/our-first-guest-blogger-lawrence-krauss/comment-page-2/#comment-6983</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Wloch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My understanding of arriving at a physical stalemate is that, classicly speaking, individuals continually relate from their reference circle of origin. And how far can we technically &quot;see around&quot; or through our 3-D? Consider the various circling engines connected by a motor fanbelt...the belt leaps from one &quot;world&quot; to another. Ergo: the figure-eight concept arises. The 3 or 4 dimensions of half the hourglass figure-eight vis-a-vis the other half. One must consider the mirror-image to our perspectual reality!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding of arriving at a physical stalemate is that, classicly speaking, individuals continually relate from their reference circle of origin. And how far can we technically &#8220;see around&#8221; or through our 3-D? Consider the various circling engines connected by a motor fanbelt&#8230;the belt leaps from one &#8220;world&#8221; to another. Ergo: the figure-eight concept arises. The 3 or 4 dimensions of half the hourglass figure-eight vis-a-vis the other half. One must consider the mirror-image to our perspectual reality!<br />
A</p>
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		<title>By: Darwin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/11/14/our-first-guest-blogger-lawrence-krauss/comment-page-2/#comment-6982</link>
		<dc:creator>Darwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2005 11:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plato,

This isn&#039;t the place to discuss &quot;a genuine emergence of classical spacetime geometry from something more fundamental&quot;.  I wish you would persuade your colleague and mentor t&#039;Hooft to put a review paper reviewing unorthodox work on the arXiv.org.  Until there is a precedent by someone famous, they&#039;ll delete everything submitted that looks crackpot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plato,</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t the place to discuss &#8220;a genuine emergence of classical spacetime geometry from something more fundamental&#8221;.  I wish you would persuade your colleague and mentor t&#8217;Hooft to put a review paper reviewing unorthodox work on the arXiv.org.  Until there is a precedent by someone famous, they&#8217;ll delete everything submitted that looks crackpot.</p>
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		<title>By: Plato</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/11/14/our-first-guest-blogger-lawrence-krauss/comment-page-2/#comment-6981</link>
		<dc:creator>Plato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 05:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....it&#039;s consistent theme with Lee to question one&#039;s position

.....maybe very theraputic, if someone could finally answer him? :)

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=251#comment-4758&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Having said this, I should also say that my own view is that it is not likely that LQG, CDT or anything else now on the table will simply be the right thing. I believe these are all models, necessary steps from which we learn how to do non-trivial calculations in background independent, diffeomorphism invariant quantum field theories. As we gain control over them we are beginning to use the new language and tools gained to address not only quantum gravity but the other big problems such as unification and quantum cosmology. The right theory will solve all of these. &lt;b&gt;And I believe it will do so by featuring a genuine emergence of classical spacetime geometry from something more fundamental.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.it&#8217;s consistent theme with Lee to question one&#8217;s position</p>
<p>&#8230;..maybe very theraputic, if someone could finally answer him? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=251#comment-4758" rel="nofollow"><br />
<blockquote>Having said this, I should also say that my own view is that it is not likely that LQG, CDT or anything else now on the table will simply be the right thing. I believe these are all models, necessary steps from which we learn how to do non-trivial calculations in background independent, diffeomorphism invariant quantum field theories. As we gain control over them we are beginning to use the new language and tools gained to address not only quantum gravity but the other big problems such as unification and quantum cosmology. The right theory will solve all of these. <b>And I believe it will do so by featuring a genuine emergence of classical spacetime geometry from something more fundamental.</b></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Moshe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/11/14/our-first-guest-blogger-lawrence-krauss/comment-page-2/#comment-6980</link>
		<dc:creator>Moshe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 04:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee, not sure references to what, but soon enough we&#039;ll be able to discuss in person.

best,

Moshe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee, not sure references to what, but soon enough we&#8217;ll be able to discuss in person.</p>
<p>best,</p>
<p>Moshe</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Smolin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/11/14/our-first-guest-blogger-lawrence-krauss/comment-page-2/#comment-6979</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Smolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 04:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moshe, thanks very much. Some references when you have a minute would be appreciated.  Thanks,  Lee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moshe, thanks very much. Some references when you have a minute would be appreciated.  Thanks,  Lee</p>
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		<title>By: Moshe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/11/14/our-first-guest-blogger-lawrence-krauss/comment-page-2/#comment-6978</link>
		<dc:creator>Moshe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 23:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, one more point, the GSO projection by itself does not imply spacetime SUSY, it just allows for that possibility, if the background fields cooperate...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, one more point, the GSO projection by itself does not imply spacetime SUSY, it just allows for that possibility, if the background fields cooperate&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Moshe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moshe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 23:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lee,

Back to physics, very theraputic...

The comment of continuity  was just an intuitive comment, not really necessarily an EFT argument. Basically the spectrum of the string is continuous as a function of the background fields (w/o changing the GSO projection), so string scale tachyon cannot just pop up when you turn on arbitrarily small background fields. In any event, I assure you there are also more complete calculations, that was just an argument why this had to be the case. Incidentally, even for static backgrounds there are non-SUSY classically stable cases, but they are quantum mechanically unstable in the sense that they don&#039;t stay static after including quantum corrections.

As for the last paragraph, I mentioned that in the context of backgrounds which develope singularities, and then we don&#039;t have a criteria for judging which background lift to the full quantum theory. My bet is that weakly curved backgrounds should be fine, but one cannot know for sure yet. (incidentally, is it always true that for time dependent background singularity thm. dictate there generaically  exists future or past singulairty?)

best,

Moshe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lee,</p>
<p>Back to physics, very theraputic&#8230;</p>
<p>The comment of continuity  was just an intuitive comment, not really necessarily an EFT argument. Basically the spectrum of the string is continuous as a function of the background fields (w/o changing the GSO projection), so string scale tachyon cannot just pop up when you turn on arbitrarily small background fields. In any event, I assure you there are also more complete calculations, that was just an argument why this had to be the case. Incidentally, even for static backgrounds there are non-SUSY classically stable cases, but they are quantum mechanically unstable in the sense that they don&#8217;t stay static after including quantum corrections.</p>
<p>As for the last paragraph, I mentioned that in the context of backgrounds which develope singularities, and then we don&#8217;t have a criteria for judging which background lift to the full quantum theory. My bet is that weakly curved backgrounds should be fine, but one cannot know for sure yet. (incidentally, is it always true that for time dependent background singularity thm. dictate there generaically  exists future or past singulairty?)</p>
<p>best,</p>
<p>Moshe</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Smolin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/11/14/our-first-guest-blogger-lawrence-krauss/comment-page-2/#comment-6976</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Smolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 23:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Moshe,

Thanks very much for your #137.  This is helpful, but can I query you on one point, where you say that  on &quot;...backgrounds that are almost flat, then just by continuity the only thing one has to worry about is the spectrum of modes that would have been zero modes in flat space. So my statement is that weakly curved solutions of string theory have tachyons if and only if the corresponding GR+matter solution is stable. So string theory at the classical level is as stable or unstable as the corresponding field theory it includes.&quot;

Can you fill in a few details of this argument?  It seems to me that given that the cancellation of the tachyon involves a projection to a smaller state space (the GSO projection) and given that the projection implies spacetime supersymmetry which is broken as soon as there is any  time dependence, you have to show that you can continue to impose a projection that eliminates a tachyon for any small non-supersymmetric deformation of the background geometry.  Has this been done?   If not, I don&#039;t think you can use an effective field theory argument that assumes that the tachyon is absent from the deformed theory.

On a related point, you say,  &quot;It is certainly not clear that a generic classical solution of any theory, especially containing gravity, should lift to a full solution of the quantum theory.&quot; But for the classical theory to be recovered as the low energy limit, must it not be that every solution to the classical theory that is weakly curved on the Planck scale must lift to a coherent state in the quantum theory?

Thanks, Lee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Moshe,</p>
<p>Thanks very much for your #137.  This is helpful, but can I query you on one point, where you say that  on &#8220;&#8230;backgrounds that are almost flat, then just by continuity the only thing one has to worry about is the spectrum of modes that would have been zero modes in flat space. So my statement is that weakly curved solutions of string theory have tachyons if and only if the corresponding GR+matter solution is stable. So string theory at the classical level is as stable or unstable as the corresponding field theory it includes.&#8221;</p>
<p>Can you fill in a few details of this argument?  It seems to me that given that the cancellation of the tachyon involves a projection to a smaller state space (the GSO projection) and given that the projection implies spacetime supersymmetry which is broken as soon as there is any  time dependence, you have to show that you can continue to impose a projection that eliminates a tachyon for any small non-supersymmetric deformation of the background geometry.  Has this been done?   If not, I don&#8217;t think you can use an effective field theory argument that assumes that the tachyon is absent from the deformed theory.</p>
<p>On a related point, you say,  &#8220;It is certainly not clear that a generic classical solution of any theory, especially containing gravity, should lift to a full solution of the quantum theory.&#8221; But for the classical theory to be recovered as the low energy limit, must it not be that every solution to the classical theory that is weakly curved on the Planck scale must lift to a coherent state in the quantum theory?</p>
<p>Thanks, Lee</p>
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		<title>By: Plato</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/11/14/our-first-guest-blogger-lawrence-krauss/comment-page-2/#comment-6975</link>
		<dc:creator>Plato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was inspired by &quot;Warren Siegel&#039;s parodies,&quot; to add a update on &lt;a href=&quot;http://eskesthai.blogspot.com/2005/11/angels-and-demons.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Angels and Demons&lt;/a&gt;.

Will string theorist&#039;s burn in hell? :(

Some might use religion to distort the &quot;empowerment&quot; we all have? Place it outside of ourselves? While I say, it is quite feasible that such delusions, would have been sought to fool the public, by being anti-stringy?

Is it a plot un-becoming? If one could have a delusion about it&#039;s inception, then why not the reverse of it&#039;s recognition? Claim it to be a positive thing about our comprehension about it&#039;s negative impact?

Have I followed the proper logic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was inspired by &#8220;Warren Siegel&#8217;s parodies,&#8221; to add a update on <a href="http://eskesthai.blogspot.com/2005/11/angels-and-demons.html" rel="nofollow">Angels and Demons</a>.</p>
<p>Will string theorist&#8217;s burn in hell? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Some might use religion to distort the &#8220;empowerment&#8221; we all have? Place it outside of ourselves? While I say, it is quite feasible that such delusions, would have been sought to fool the public, by being anti-stringy?</p>
<p>Is it a plot un-becoming? If one could have a delusion about it&#8217;s inception, then why not the reverse of it&#8217;s recognition? Claim it to be a positive thing about our comprehension about it&#8217;s negative impact?</p>
<p>Have I followed the proper logic?</p>
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