the logic is, that to keep the thinking in context of your post Sean, that one could choose whether or not to follow that link. It is relevant, is it not?

I am in the Blogosphere Sean.

I thought that tangent bypassed the very essence of your post, but I could have been wrong about that too.

So anyway to keep it short.

I understand this need for determination, and as well, the need to reaffirm what philosophy might hold in regards to truly active members of the science community. The projects they are engaged in. Would they have a distain for the “philosophy of mathematics?”

Off-topic?

1) No. And the 25% unemployment figure is not from Timbro. It’s from the socialist trade union which founded and funds the socialist party responsible for the mess.

2) If you care to look, you will find that big corporations always align themselves with the powers that be, out of sheer necessity – the government has the guns, remember? The historical “Swedish model” was very much an alliance between the socialist party, its owner (the trade union) and big business, notably the Wallenberg dynasty. You will find an interesting account of its rise and fall among Timbro’s titles.

3) You shut somebody in a cage, then call him a hypocrit for demanding freedom after you “gave” him “free” lodging? I guess that makes sense. To you.

P.S. The Internet? You don’t really think this thing is running on state infrastructure, do you?

1) Timbro is very much the Swedish equivalent of the Cato Institute in the US. I would not regard their findings any less as propaganda than the “government propaganda” you are referring to. I am not contesting your statement that the unemployment is higher than what the state says. But what do you think it is like being poor in the UK as compared to in Sweden?

2) No, the corporations are not libertarians. They just want to make as much money as possible without any regard for anything else, which is why libertarianism (i.e., what in Europe is called liberalism) fits them very well. (Not that the really big corporations are paying much taxes anyway.)

So I suppose you, Dissident, did not go to public school, receive any publicly funded education, health care or anything? Not to mention you’re never using the internet. So who’s the hypocrit?

1) Timbro is an independent think tank living off a trust fund which was set up for it a long time ago (so it’s not on anyone’s leash), generating a puny return compared to the billions of tax revenue being poured into the production of state propaganda constantly hammering at it.

2) You don’t really think “the rich and powerful and the big corporations” are libertarian, do you? Status quo is their interest. If you actually know any exceptions, please let me know. I sure could use a rich and powerful ally or two.

Science: thank you. Believe it or not, I believe dissent is good. Even for cosmicvariance. And for Sean.

bittergradstudent: I posted my sincere, immediate reaction to that “poem”. In my eyes, it’s a revolting exercise in hypocrisy.

Sean, Jesus was crucified for being a troll, was he not? Where’s the proof that someone who says something the mainstream don’t want to hear is a troll? Surely the trolls, in a sense, are the sycophantics who kick someone just because that’s what the mob is doing.

What is the probability of a mix up, like Pilate and the Chief Priests, and accidentally crucify someone innocent without bothering to check the basic facts? It it zero?

http://www.timbro.com/index.asp?page=publications

Among the interesting things you will learn is that real unemployment in Sweden (not the socialist government’s cooked figures) currently runs at about 25%. And if you think that’s something made up by some vast right-wing conspiracy, you may want to check the story on economist Jan Edling and why he quit his job with socialist trade union LO after 18 years.

I’ll grant you this: they didn’t have him committed to a mental hospital for making public the figures which had been known and used internally all along, as would have been done in the old Unmentionable bloc, or declare him “beyond reason”. For that I guess one has to come here and draw the ire of Kommisar Sean.

Sean: so, in your view of the world everybody who doesn’t like collectivism is a “troll” and somebody beyond “the force of reason”?

Wow.