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		<title>By: Torbjorn Larsson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/01/27/perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-11009</link>
		<dc:creator>Torbjorn Larsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 21:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Humor is a break with the expected. So it is also one of the few ways of making people see radically new ways. I believe one of the arguments for that is it so is that it&#039;s usually frowned upon by dictators or, as Sean says, by a large part of the potential audience.

It&#039;s not an argument, but perhaps an inroad to making an argument from a perspective the audience didn&#039;t acknowledge before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humor is a break with the expected. So it is also one of the few ways of making people see radically new ways. I believe one of the arguments for that is it so is that it&#8217;s usually frowned upon by dictators or, as Sean says, by a large part of the potential audience.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not an argument, but perhaps an inroad to making an argument from a perspective the audience didn&#8217;t acknowledge before.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/01/27/perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-11008</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 21:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that the first Dartmouth reference I&#039;ve yet seen on CV (besides the phantom energy stuff) is a link to Joe Malchow&#039;s insipid blog? I&#039;m so ashamed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that the first Dartmouth reference I&#8217;ve yet seen on CV (besides the phantom energy stuff) is a link to Joe Malchow&#8217;s insipid blog? I&#8217;m so ashamed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Plato</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/01/27/perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-11007</link>
		<dc:creator>Plato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 18:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s say your &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cagle.com/news/GasPrices2005/images/breen.gif&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;daydreaming&lt;/a&gt; while carrying on with the day&#039;s events? :)

Sean&#039;s example, is more I think,  a call to focus what is happening within society in the Americas. I could be wrong though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s say your <a href="http://www.cagle.com/news/GasPrices2005/images/breen.gif" rel="nofollow">daydreaming</a> while carrying on with the day&#8217;s events? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Sean&#8217;s example, is more I think,  a call to focus what is happening within society in the Americas. I could be wrong though.</p>
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		<title>By: Plato</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/01/27/perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-11006</link>
		<dc:creator>Plato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It almost like &quot;laughing&quot; on realization of the comedian&#039;s Joke. Of course, I do not think political ramifications are to be taken lightly.

&quot;What is the sound of one hand clapping?&quot; You need a &quot;left&quot; or &quot;right?&quot; :)

What is &quot;the essence&quot; of the observation. It is not always immediate sometimes but on further reflection....hmmmmm. Definitiely, an art form:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It almost like &#8220;laughing&#8221; on realization of the comedian&#8217;s Joke. Of course, I do not think political ramifications are to be taken lightly.</p>
<p>&#8220;What is the sound of one hand clapping?&#8221; You need a &#8220;left&#8221; or &#8220;right?&#8221; <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>What is &#8220;the essence&#8221; of the observation. It is not always immediate sometimes but on further reflection&#8230;.hmmmmm. Definitiely, an art form:)</p>
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		<title>By: Kristin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the problem with political cartoons is that you can&#039;t have too much nuance or complexity in them (at least, if they&#039;re the single panel type like these are). If readers are to be able to &quot;get&quot; the cartoon immediately, the image will have to have a certain degree of familiarity already...which favors received ideas.

But that&#039;s the style that plays in the mainstream newspapers, which don&#039;t want to offend anyone. I read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cagle.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Daryl Cagle&#039;s cartoon weblog&lt;/a&gt; for a while a couple of years back and learned that the most anodyne cartoons are the most popular, like when a recently deceased famous person is depicted at the pearly gates of heaven.
Anyway, this old-fashioned style of political cartooning is probably going the way of the dodo, between newspapers paring staff and better ways of communicating complex topics. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tedrall.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ted Rall&lt;/a&gt; edited a book titled &lt;em&gt;Attitude: the New Subversive Political Cartoonists,&lt;/em&gt; and they all employ a multi-panel narrative form. (Ted Rall has explicitly railed against the old-fashioned Thomas Nast-style cartoons with elephants and donkeys and figures with labels written on them (as in the example above). Then again, he rails against a lot of things.) And you might already be familiar with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.markfiore.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mark Fiore&#039;s animated cartoons.&lt;/a&gt;

I don&#039;t know how many people are swayed to see a different perspective by political cartoons, though. Probably they are becoming increasingly window dressing for a paper&#039;s known slant and not meant to ruffle any feathers, and you&#039;ll have to go to the alternative press to find anything trenchant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the problem with political cartoons is that you can&#8217;t have too much nuance or complexity in them (at least, if they&#8217;re the single panel type like these are). If readers are to be able to &#8220;get&#8221; the cartoon immediately, the image will have to have a certain degree of familiarity already&#8230;which favors received ideas.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s the style that plays in the mainstream newspapers, which don&#8217;t want to offend anyone. I read <a href="http://www.cagle.com" rel="nofollow">Daryl Cagle&#8217;s cartoon weblog</a> for a while a couple of years back and learned that the most anodyne cartoons are the most popular, like when a recently deceased famous person is depicted at the pearly gates of heaven.<br />
Anyway, this old-fashioned style of political cartooning is probably going the way of the dodo, between newspapers paring staff and better ways of communicating complex topics. <a href="http://www.tedrall.com" rel="nofollow">Ted Rall</a> edited a book titled <em>Attitude: the New Subversive Political Cartoonists,</em> and they all employ a multi-panel narrative form. (Ted Rall has explicitly railed against the old-fashioned Thomas Nast-style cartoons with elephants and donkeys and figures with labels written on them (as in the example above). Then again, he rails against a lot of things.) And you might already be familiar with <a href="http://www.markfiore.com" rel="nofollow">Mark Fiore&#8217;s animated cartoons.</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how many people are swayed to see a different perspective by political cartoons, though. Probably they are becoming increasingly window dressing for a paper&#8217;s known slant and not meant to ruffle any feathers, and you&#8217;ll have to go to the alternative press to find anything trenchant.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean,

I don&#039;t think this exercise works at all. I think the artist was trying to do too much and therefore accomplished very little. I think that good political cartoons (both on the right or left) do tend to reinforce existing beliefs but if even if I disagree, if they are really good they at least make me think for a moment about the other viewpoint. At their best they are visceral momentary slices of truth.

Elliot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think this exercise works at all. I think the artist was trying to do too much and therefore accomplished very little. I think that good political cartoons (both on the right or left) do tend to reinforce existing beliefs but if even if I disagree, if they are really good they at least make me think for a moment about the other viewpoint. At their best they are visceral momentary slices of truth.</p>
<p>Elliot</p>
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