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		<title>By: Phil Plait, aka The Bad Astronomer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/02/its-for-real/comment-page-1/#comment-11381</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Plait, aka The Bad Astronomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 04:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that&#039;s amazing. I&#039;d be happy for you, except NASA is appears to be taking exactly the opposite stance. Sigh. I think I&#039;ll apply for some NSF grants...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that&#8217;s amazing. I&#8217;d be happy for you, except NASA is appears to be taking exactly the opposite stance. Sigh. I think I&#8217;ll apply for some NSF grants&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Bergman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/02/its-for-real/comment-page-1/#comment-11380</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Bergman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that&#039;s a new incarnation of comment spam....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#8217;s a new incarnation of comment spam&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: kmeson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/02/its-for-real/comment-page-1/#comment-11358</link>
		<dc:creator>kmeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 15:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Maynard.  This totals to budgetary increases of $605.5M.  Any handicappers want to take a shot at the over-under on the actual?

I&#039;ll go first:  $76M (2% increase)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Maynard.  This totals to budgetary increases of $605.5M.  Any handicappers want to take a shot at the over-under on the actual?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll go first:  $76M (2% increase)</p>
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		<title>By: Fiscal Year 2007 &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/02/its-for-real/comment-page-1/#comment-11379</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiscal Year 2007 &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 18:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The President&#8217;s budget request for Fiscal Year 2007 was released this morning. The highlights can be found here and the details here. It includes the 14.1% increase for the DOE Office of Science as reported here last week. $60 M from the high energy physics budget is earmarked for Research&amp;Development of the accelerator design for the International Linear Collider. I think that&#8217;s a good thing, but others may be disappointed. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The President&#8217;s budget request for Fiscal Year 2007 was released this morning. The highlights can be found here and the details here. It includes the 14.1% increase for the DOE Office of Science as reported here last week. $60 M from the high energy physics budget is earmarked for Research&#38;Development of the accelerator design for the International Linear Collider. I think that&#8217;s a good thing, but others may be disappointed. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Maynard Handley</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/02/its-for-real/comment-page-1/#comment-11378</link>
		<dc:creator>Maynard Handley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 22:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn you people are naive. Have you been asleep for the last 5 years?
This is Bush tactics 101. The press release gets lots of publicity, lots of &quot;That Bush isn&#039;t such a bad guy&quot; vibe, then later on absolutely nothing happens. If Bush is actually pressed on the issue, he&#039;ll blame Congress, but it probably won&#039;t even come to that.

Look at AIDS funding. Look at debt relief. Look at last year&#039;s 1-2 release of first, a major press release talking about the savings in the budget followed by the actual budget (with rather less fanfare) that included tax cuts equal to twice the budget savings.

For evil to triumph, it is sufficient that the voters be complete morons. Luckily for the Bush people, that is what they have in the US, where even supposedly intelligent people like the readers of this blog, fall for the old Lucy-Snoopy-football bit EVERY FREAKING TIME. Five years of this, and you are still running around saying &quot;no, no, this time it will be different&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn you people are naive. Have you been asleep for the last 5 years?<br />
This is Bush tactics 101. The press release gets lots of publicity, lots of &#8220;That Bush isn&#8217;t such a bad guy&#8221; vibe, then later on absolutely nothing happens. If Bush is actually pressed on the issue, he&#8217;ll blame Congress, but it probably won&#8217;t even come to that.</p>
<p>Look at AIDS funding. Look at debt relief. Look at last year&#8217;s 1-2 release of first, a major press release talking about the savings in the budget followed by the actual budget (with rather less fanfare) that included tax cuts equal to twice the budget savings.</p>
<p>For evil to triumph, it is sufficient that the voters be complete morons. Luckily for the Bush people, that is what they have in the US, where even supposedly intelligent people like the readers of this blog, fall for the old Lucy-Snoopy-football bit EVERY FREAKING TIME. Five years of this, and you are still running around saying &#8220;no, no, this time it will be different&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hardy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/02/its-for-real/comment-page-1/#comment-11377</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hardy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 14:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean wrote:
&lt;i&gt;Excellent news. Let&#039;s cross our fingers that it continues to be real.&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;ll probably come with a few strings attached. Perhaps a requirement to give equal time to &quot;faith-based&quot; physics and &quot;intelligent design&quot;. After all, science is really just a bunch of &quot;theories&quot; and we &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; talking about public funds here.

Just like the stuff that goes to NASA

From the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/glogin?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/04/science/04climate.html&amp;OQ=_rQ3D1Q26hpQ26exQ3D1139029200Q26enQ3D6a15af4274e8942dQ26eiQ3D5094Q26partnerQ3Dhomepage&amp;OP=4df44397Q2FlDbElfQ7EQ5ChzQ7EQ7Ep-l-ZZwlZ-lZQ27lhQ5C_b3Q5CblZQ27Q5CT_2RpbQ25dp2T&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New York Times&lt;/a&gt;

Non pay-wall &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060204/ZNYT02/602040703&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mirror&lt;/a&gt;

&quot;In October, for example, George Deutsch, a presidential appointee in NASA headquarters, told a Web designer working for the agency to add the word &quot;theory&quot; after every mention of the Big Bang, according to an e-mail message from Mr. Deutsch that another NASA employee forwarded to The Times.&quot;

&quot;... The Big Bang memo came from Mr. Deutsch, a 24-year-old presidential appointee in the press office at NASA headquarters whose rÃ©sumÃ© says he was an intern in the &quot;war room&quot; of the 2004 Bush-Cheney re-election campaign. A 2003 journalism graduate of Texas A&amp;M, he was also the public-affairs officer who sought more control over Dr. Hansen&#039;s public statements.&quot;

&quot;... The Big Bang is &quot;not proven fact; it is opinion,&quot; Mr. Deutsch wrote, adding, &quot;It is not NASA&#039;s place, nor should it be to make a declaration such as this about the existence of the universe that discounts intelligent design by a creator.&quot; It continued: &quot;This is more than a science issue, it is a religious issue. And I would hate to think that young people would only be getting one-half of this debate from NASA. That would mean we had failed to properly educate the very people who rely on us for factual information the most.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean wrote:<br />
<i>Excellent news. Let&#8217;s cross our fingers that it continues to be real.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;ll probably come with a few strings attached. Perhaps a requirement to give equal time to &#8220;faith-based&#8221; physics and &#8220;intelligent design&#8221;. After all, science is really just a bunch of &#8220;theories&#8221; and we <i>are</i> talking about public funds here.</p>
<p>Just like the stuff that goes to NASA</p>
<p>From the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/glogin?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/04/science/04climate.html&amp;OQ=_rQ3D1Q26hpQ26exQ3D1139029200Q26enQ3D6a15af4274e8942dQ26eiQ3D5094Q26partnerQ3Dhomepage&amp;OP=4df44397Q2FlDbElfQ7EQ5ChzQ7EQ7Ep-l-ZZwlZ-lZQ27lhQ5C_b3Q5CblZQ27Q5CT_2RpbQ25dp2T" rel="nofollow">New York Times</a></p>
<p>Non pay-wall <a href="http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060204/ZNYT02/602040703" rel="nofollow">mirror</a></p>
<p>&#8220;In October, for example, George Deutsch, a presidential appointee in NASA headquarters, told a Web designer working for the agency to add the word &#8220;theory&#8221; after every mention of the Big Bang, according to an e-mail message from Mr. Deutsch that another NASA employee forwarded to The Times.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; The Big Bang memo came from Mr. Deutsch, a 24-year-old presidential appointee in the press office at NASA headquarters whose rÃ©sumÃ© says he was an intern in the &#8220;war room&#8221; of the 2004 Bush-Cheney re-election campaign. A 2003 journalism graduate of Texas A&amp;M, he was also the public-affairs officer who sought more control over Dr. Hansen&#8217;s public statements.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; The Big Bang is &#8220;not proven fact; it is opinion,&#8221; Mr. Deutsch wrote, adding, &#8220;It is not NASA&#8217;s place, nor should it be to make a declaration such as this about the existence of the universe that discounts intelligent design by a creator.&#8221; It continued: &#8220;This is more than a science issue, it is a religious issue. And I would hate to think that young people would only be getting one-half of this debate from NASA. That would mean we had failed to properly educate the very people who rely on us for factual information the most.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Life as a Physicist &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Holding My Breath</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/02/its-for-real/comment-page-1/#comment-11376</link>
		<dc:creator>Life as a Physicist &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Holding My Breath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 00:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] JoAnne, over at Cosmic Variance, managed to dig up a few more details on the president&#8217;s budget: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] JoAnne, over at Cosmic Variance, managed to dig up a few more details on the president&#8217;s budget: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Count Iblis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/02/its-for-real/comment-page-1/#comment-11375</link>
		<dc:creator>Count Iblis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 00:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben,

These problems are caused precisely because people in the US don&#039;t want to pay taxes or pay social premiums etc. Things have to go badly wrong before they&#039;ll see that the ideology of less government, low taxes etc. doesn&#039;t work. Katrina was one such disaster and probably not the last one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben,</p>
<p>These problems are caused precisely because people in the US don&#8217;t want to pay taxes or pay social premiums etc. Things have to go badly wrong before they&#8217;ll see that the ideology of less government, low taxes etc. doesn&#8217;t work. Katrina was one such disaster and probably not the last one.</p>
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		<title>By: JoAnne</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/02/its-for-real/comment-page-1/#comment-11374</link>
		<dc:creator>JoAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2006 23:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben,

Since the 70&#039;s, experimental particle physics has built and confirmed the Standard Model which is our foundation for understanding the universe.   You either find this interesting and worthwhile, or you don&#039;t.  But if you don&#039;t, then you&#039;re wasting your time reading this blog.

I plan to blog on the development of the Standard Model fairly soon, so people will understand how long it took.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben,</p>
<p>Since the 70&#8217;s, experimental particle physics has built and confirmed the Standard Model which is our foundation for understanding the universe.   You either find this interesting and worthwhile, or you don&#8217;t.  But if you don&#8217;t, then you&#8217;re wasting your time reading this blog.</p>
<p>I plan to blog on the development of the Standard Model fairly soon, so people will understand how long it took.</p>
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		<title>By: J.F. Moore</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/02/its-for-real/comment-page-1/#comment-11373</link>
		<dc:creator>J.F. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2006 22:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, note that congress more often &#039;brings home the bacon&#039; in election years, and passes bigger budgets earlier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, note that congress more often &#8216;brings home the bacon&#8217; in election years, and passes bigger budgets earlier.</p>
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