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		<title>By: Rory Connor</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/09/cartoons/comment-page-1/#comment-11874</link>
		<dc:creator>Rory Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DANISH CARTOONS AND &quot;PISS CHRIST&quot;

Catholics subject to insensitivity (The Sunday Tribune, Ireland, 12 February 2006)

&quot;ALL people, all religions, have to be open to criticism but it must be constructive and sensitive. [A debate] . . . cannot be achieved by extremism in either culture.&quot;

&quot;We in the Sunday Tribune are against censorship and believe passionately in freedom of speech. But the publication of cartoons that Muslims find so offencive was not correct. For that reason we are not reproducing them today&quot;
(Sunday Tribune Editorial 5 February).

Is the Tribune serious? Do you recall the obscene and vicious attacks on Nora Wall (Sister Dominic). &quot;Vile Nun&quot;, &quot;Pervert Nun&quot;, &quot;I was Raped by Anti-Christ&quot;. Did you imagine that these came from people who were concerned about child abuse? Do you remember the article by the Sunday World &#039;s crime correspondent Paul Williams &quot;Rape Nun&#039;s Abuse Pact by Smyth&quot;. He claimed that Nora Wall had procured children for Fr Brendan Smyth! Nora Wall sued and got damages of 175,000. I don&#039;t recall the Sunday Tribune (or any &quot;Liberal&quot; newspaper) highlighting the issue. Did you even mention it and if so when?

Several years ago, The Irish Times did an article about &quot;Piss Christ&quot;, an artistic masterpiece that showed a crucifix in a bucket of urine. American Christians who wanted to deny public money to the artist were called &quot;fascists&quot; by The Irish Times. What was the constructive and sensitive response by the Tribune?

Do you really think that liberals can (literally) spew vomit over Christianity and their own culture and then demand tolerance of Muslims?

Berthold Brecht was the leading intellectual in the Weimar Republic. He was also a Stalinist bootlicker. His own mistress Carola Neher, star of The Threepenny Opera, visited the Soviet Union, was arrested and disappeared forever into the Gulag. Brecht did not protest or lift a finger to help her (it would have meant allying himself with &quot;reactionaries&quot;). The obscene treatment of Nora Wall, Sister Stanislaus Kennedy and Sister Xaviera by Irish &quot;liberals&quot; is on the same moral level and you are equally unfitted to fight against our modern fascists.

Rory Connor, 11 Lohunda Grove, Dublin 15.

www.tribune.ie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DANISH CARTOONS AND &#8220;PISS CHRIST&#8221;</p>
<p>Catholics subject to insensitivity (The Sunday Tribune, Ireland, 12 February 2006)</p>
<p>&#8220;ALL people, all religions, have to be open to criticism but it must be constructive and sensitive. [A debate] . . . cannot be achieved by extremism in either culture.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;We in the Sunday Tribune are against censorship and believe passionately in freedom of speech. But the publication of cartoons that Muslims find so offencive was not correct. For that reason we are not reproducing them today&#8221;<br />
(Sunday Tribune Editorial 5 February).</p>
<p>Is the Tribune serious? Do you recall the obscene and vicious attacks on Nora Wall (Sister Dominic). &#8220;Vile Nun&#8221;, &#8220;Pervert Nun&#8221;, &#8220;I was Raped by Anti-Christ&#8221;. Did you imagine that these came from people who were concerned about child abuse? Do you remember the article by the Sunday World &#8216;s crime correspondent Paul Williams &#8220;Rape Nun&#8217;s Abuse Pact by Smyth&#8221;. He claimed that Nora Wall had procured children for Fr Brendan Smyth! Nora Wall sued and got damages of 175,000. I don&#8217;t recall the Sunday Tribune (or any &#8220;Liberal&#8221; newspaper) highlighting the issue. Did you even mention it and if so when?</p>
<p>Several years ago, The Irish Times did an article about &#8220;Piss Christ&#8221;, an artistic masterpiece that showed a crucifix in a bucket of urine. American Christians who wanted to deny public money to the artist were called &#8220;fascists&#8221; by The Irish Times. What was the constructive and sensitive response by the Tribune?</p>
<p>Do you really think that liberals can (literally) spew vomit over Christianity and their own culture and then demand tolerance of Muslims?</p>
<p>Berthold Brecht was the leading intellectual in the Weimar Republic. He was also a Stalinist bootlicker. His own mistress Carola Neher, star of The Threepenny Opera, visited the Soviet Union, was arrested and disappeared forever into the Gulag. Brecht did not protest or lift a finger to help her (it would have meant allying himself with &#8220;reactionaries&#8221;). The obscene treatment of Nora Wall, Sister Stanislaus Kennedy and Sister Xaviera by Irish &#8220;liberals&#8221; is on the same moral level and you are equally unfitted to fight against our modern fascists.</p>
<p>Rory Connor, 11 Lohunda Grove, Dublin 15.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tribune.ie" rel="nofollow">http://www.tribune.ie</a></p>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/09/cartoons/comment-page-1/#comment-11927</link>
		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some cartoon-related news from India:

http://hindustantimes.com/news/181_1630952,0008.htm

http://in.news.yahoo.com/060220/43/62m7f.html

and some from England:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/02/19/nsharia219.xml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some cartoon-related news from India:</p>
<p><a href="http://hindustantimes.com/news/181_1630952,0008.htm" rel="nofollow">http://hindustantimes.com/news/181_1630952,0008.htm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://in.news.yahoo.com/060220/43/62m7f.html" rel="nofollow">http://in.news.yahoo.com/060220/43/62m7f.html</a></p>
<p>and some from England:<br />
<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/02/19/nsharia219.xml" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/02/19/nsharia219.xml</a></p>
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		<title>By: ghazal</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/09/cartoons/comment-page-1/#comment-11926</link>
		<dc:creator>ghazal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 04:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are two other articles about this subject at http://freethoughts.org/  from other perspectives</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two other articles about this subject at <a href="http://freethoughts.org/" rel="nofollow">http://freethoughts.org/</a>  from other perspectives</p>
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		<title>By: Ranlen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/09/cartoons/comment-page-1/#comment-11925</link>
		<dc:creator>Ranlen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 21:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Theo Van Gogh and Ayaan Hirsi Ali&#039;s film Submission can be viewed at www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2655656</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theo Van Gogh and Ayaan Hirsi Ali&#8217;s film Submission can be viewed at <a href="http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2655656" rel="nofollow">http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2655656</a></p>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/09/cartoons/comment-page-1/#comment-11924</link>
		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 20:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/spiegel/0,1518,399263,00.html

&lt;blockquote&gt;Ayaan Hirsi Ali, the Dutch politician forced to go into hiding after the murder of filmmaker Theo van Gogh, responds to the Danish cartoon scandal, arguing that if Europe doesn&#039;t stand up to extremists, a culture of self-censorship of criticism of Islam that pervades in Holland will spread in Europe. Auf Wiedersehen, free speech.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>Ayaan Hirsi Ali, the Dutch politician forced to go into hiding after the murder of filmmaker Theo van Gogh, responds to the Danish cartoon scandal, arguing that if Europe doesn&#8217;t stand up to extremists, a culture of self-censorship of criticism of Islam that pervades in Holland will spread in Europe. Auf Wiedersehen, free speech.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/09/cartoons/comment-page-1/#comment-11923</link>
		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://indiauncut.blogspot.com/2006/02/where-is-denmark.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://indiauncut.blogspot.com/2006/02/where-is-denmark.html" rel="nofollow">http://indiauncut.blogspot.com/2006/02/where-is-denmark.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Amitabha</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/09/cartoons/comment-page-1/#comment-11922</link>
		<dc:creator>Amitabha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 07:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#60, Arun, Possibly. I do not know. (The author of the referenced blog may know more.)
My &lt;i&gt;guess&lt;/i&gt; is that the book was rejected by more than one `big&#039; publishers before it was published by a `small&#039; publisher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#60, Arun, Possibly. I do not know. (The author of the referenced blog may know more.)<br />
My <i>guess</i> is that the book was rejected by more than one `big&#8217; publishers before it was published by a `small&#8217; publisher.</p>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/09/cartoons/comment-page-1/#comment-11921</link>
		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further to L - certainly everyone has a right to speak; and the more speech and non-violent demonstrations rather than the other type, the better.  How credible what is said really depends however, on the context of what is said.  Credibility comes from speaking up based on principles rather than on special interest.

http://www.saag.org/%5Cpapers17%5Cpaper1699.html
is worth reading w.r.t. this last point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to L &#8211; certainly everyone has a right to speak; and the more speech and non-violent demonstrations rather than the other type, the better.  How credible what is said really depends however, on the context of what is said.  Credibility comes from speaking up based on principles rather than on special interest.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.saag.org/%5Cpapers17%5Cpaper1699.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.saag.org/%5Cpapers17%5Cpaper1699.html</a><br />
is worth reading w.r.t. this last point.</p>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/09/cartoons/comment-page-1/#comment-11920</link>
		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to L (#57) I believe that most of the protests outside Denmark were orchestrated months after the fact by governments and non-governmental groups, that have no real standing with respect to human rights or respect for religion, because they have no respect for these in their daily operations.

#58, Amitabha, I find the following book:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/185640000X/002-8216153-7489621?v=glance&amp;n=283155
Distorted Imagination: Lessons from the Rushdie Affair
by Ziauddin Sardar
# Hardcover: 303 pages
# Publisher: Grey Seal (January 1, 1990)
# Language: English
# ISBN: 185640000X

So is the claim that Ziauddin Sardar had additional writings on the Rushdie Affair that did not find a publisher?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to L (#57) I believe that most of the protests outside Denmark were orchestrated months after the fact by governments and non-governmental groups, that have no real standing with respect to human rights or respect for religion, because they have no respect for these in their daily operations.</p>
<p>#58, Amitabha, I find the following book:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/185640000X/002-8216153-7489621?v=glance&#038;n=283155" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/185640000X/002-8216153-7489621?v=glance&#038;n=283155</a><br />
Distorted Imagination: Lessons from the Rushdie Affair<br />
by Ziauddin Sardar<br />
# Hardcover: 303 pages<br />
# Publisher: Grey Seal (January 1, 1990)<br />
# Language: English<br />
# ISBN: 185640000X</p>
<p>So is the claim that Ziauddin Sardar had additional writings on the Rushdie Affair that did not find a publisher?</p>
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		<title>By: Anti-Nothing</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/09/cartoons/comment-page-1/#comment-11919</link>
		<dc:creator>Anti-Nothing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To contribute my 2 cents worth, I believe that this whole rioting thing shouldn&#039;t be taken as an indicator to the behaviour of the whole Islamic nation just as the Abu-Ghraib abuse cases weren&#039;t supposed to represent the whole American society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To contribute my 2 cents worth, I believe that this whole rioting thing shouldn&#8217;t be taken as an indicator to the behaviour of the whole Islamic nation just as the Abu-Ghraib abuse cases weren&#8217;t supposed to represent the whole American society.</p>
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		<title>By: Amitabha</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/09/cartoons/comment-page-1/#comment-11918</link>
		<dc:creator>Amitabha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 05:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another interesting twist to an old story ...

&lt;blockquote&gt;

Ziauddin Sardar a renowned commentator on Islam felt genuine hurt when he read the Satanic Verses and in accordance with the tradition in Islam, was willing to engage with this insult met through a book by presenting his arguments in another book. This book of his however, unlike his previous works found no publisher. As against the ideals of freedom of speech and expression what came to his startling revelation was the political economy of this freedom to speech and expression. The publication of his book would have been an inopportune step on a domain that was generating heated conflicts, and strengthening stereotypes. Sardar was denied his freedom of speech and expression because his was a voice from the same lumped &#039;Islamic east&#039; that could have only inspired &#039;barbaric&#039; modes of dissent.


&lt;/blockquote&gt;

from &lt;a href=&quot;http://deatanu.blogspot.com/2006/02/of-cartoons-rage-and-reason.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
http://deatanu.blogspot.com/2006/02/of-cartoons-rage-and-reason.html&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another interesting twist to an old story &#8230;</p>
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<p>Ziauddin Sardar a renowned commentator on Islam felt genuine hurt when he read the Satanic Verses and in accordance with the tradition in Islam, was willing to engage with this insult met through a book by presenting his arguments in another book. This book of his however, unlike his previous works found no publisher. As against the ideals of freedom of speech and expression what came to his startling revelation was the political economy of this freedom to speech and expression. The publication of his book would have been an inopportune step on a domain that was generating heated conflicts, and strengthening stereotypes. Sardar was denied his freedom of speech and expression because his was a voice from the same lumped &#8216;Islamic east&#8217; that could have only inspired &#8216;barbaric&#8217; modes of dissent.</p>
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<p>from <a href="http://deatanu.blogspot.com/2006/02/of-cartoons-rage-and-reason.html" rel="nofollow"><br />
</a><a href="http://deatanu.blogspot.com/2006/02/of-cartoons-rage-and-reason.html" rel="nofollow">http://deatanu.blogspot.com/2006/02/of-cartoons-rage-and-reason.html</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: L</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/09/cartoons/comment-page-1/#comment-11917</link>
		<dc:creator>L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 05:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, we Moslems are still living in third world countries which are 50 or more years behind the western civilizations and on average our people are not as civilized, educated or as well-expressed as west and historically this is not just our own ancestors&#039; fault and do not forget what sort of violence and discriminatory actions this same west was deep into not very long ago but leaving all that on the side lets not be hypocrites about western media standing up for the freedom of speech or the right to know the truth. These are the same media who rarely talked about Saddam using chemical weapons against Iranian soldiers and Kurds up until Bush decided to attack Iraq, and they still don&#039;t include Iran since god forbid the people of such an evil country will be humanized and it is not in their interests that people know about it. They act so outraged if the stupid president of Iran makes insensitive comments about the Jewish Holocaust but they are fine with Turkey denying the Armenian Holocaust and Clinton resisting the recognition of that or even Shimon Peres making insensitive comments about it. You know what I think, human lives, their rights and cultures of other countries are worth nothing to western politician when it comes to their own  interests and the major part of their media is unfortunately far from the idealistic advocate of freedom of speech or the truth for that matter and I guess we have no right to criticize them as long as we ourselves are living under much worst condition in our countries but at the same time it is a mistake to assume that Moslems are also blind and will buy the double standards and lies in the name of human right and freedom of speech specially since there are intolerant and fanatics among all groups of people  who are just looking for excuses to start a war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, we Moslems are still living in third world countries which are 50 or more years behind the western civilizations and on average our people are not as civilized, educated or as well-expressed as west and historically this is not just our own ancestors&#8217; fault and do not forget what sort of violence and discriminatory actions this same west was deep into not very long ago but leaving all that on the side lets not be hypocrites about western media standing up for the freedom of speech or the right to know the truth. These are the same media who rarely talked about Saddam using chemical weapons against Iranian soldiers and Kurds up until Bush decided to attack Iraq, and they still don&#8217;t include Iran since god forbid the people of such an evil country will be humanized and it is not in their interests that people know about it. They act so outraged if the stupid president of Iran makes insensitive comments about the Jewish Holocaust but they are fine with Turkey denying the Armenian Holocaust and Clinton resisting the recognition of that or even Shimon Peres making insensitive comments about it. You know what I think, human lives, their rights and cultures of other countries are worth nothing to western politician when it comes to their own  interests and the major part of their media is unfortunately far from the idealistic advocate of freedom of speech or the truth for that matter and I guess we have no right to criticize them as long as we ourselves are living under much worst condition in our countries but at the same time it is a mistake to assume that Moslems are also blind and will buy the double standards and lies in the name of human right and freedom of speech specially since there are intolerant and fanatics among all groups of people  who are just looking for excuses to start a war.</p>
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		<title>By: Arun</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/09/cartoons/comment-page-1/#comment-11872</link>
		<dc:creator>Arun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 20:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is the following relevant?  The issue of the cartoons is being interpreted by some as a matter of how minorities are treated.  Well, the following is about treatment of minorities; and these are not recent immigrants, these are people who have lived there for centuries.

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&lt;blockquote&gt;
I&#039;m sure you know how Islam is. You can do one of three things in the tribal agencies. One, you pay jaziya. Two, you embrace Islam. Three, you prepare to die.

We pay jaziya.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s Taranjit Singh, a Sikh from Peshawar telling me about how the Sikhs of Peshawar get by. Jaziya is a religious tax that some Muslim kings â€&quot; most infamously the Mughal emperor Aurangzeb â€&quot; used to levy on Non-Muslim subject.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://indiauncut.blogspot.com/2006/02/jaziya.html

Jaziya is a requirement of Islamic religious law.  More about it is here:
http://www.challenging-islam.org/library/doctrine/app2.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is the following relevant?  The issue of the cartoons is being interpreted by some as a matter of how minorities are treated.  Well, the following is about treatment of minorities; and these are not recent immigrants, these are people who have lived there for centuries.</p>
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I&#8217;m sure you know how Islam is. You can do one of three things in the tribal agencies. One, you pay jaziya. Two, you embrace Islam. Three, you prepare to die.</p>
<p>We pay jaziya.
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<p>That&#8217;s Taranjit Singh, a Sikh from Peshawar telling me about how the Sikhs of Peshawar get by. Jaziya is a religious tax that some Muslim kings â€&#8221; most infamously the Mughal emperor Aurangzeb â€&#8221; used to levy on Non-Muslim subject.
</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://indiauncut.blogspot.com/2006/02/jaziya.html" rel="nofollow">http://indiauncut.blogspot.com/2006/02/jaziya.html</a></p>
<p>Jaziya is a requirement of Islamic religious law.  More about it is here:<br />
<a href="http://www.challenging-islam.org/library/doctrine/app2.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.challenging-islam.org/library/doctrine/app2.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/09/cartoons/comment-page-1/#comment-11873</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem, folks.  Just want to keep things somewhat on track.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem, folks.  Just want to keep things somewhat on track.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/09/cartoons/comment-page-1/#comment-11916</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clifford, glad I made your day.

Sean, sorry I didn&#039;t make yours. My apologies.

Elliot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clifford, glad I made your day.</p>
<p>Sean, sorry I didn&#8217;t make yours. My apologies.</p>
<p>Elliot</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/09/cartoons/comment-page-1/#comment-11915</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t resist though: Elliot, comment #46 in reply to comment #45....

Roll-on-the-floor-LOL!!!!

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t resist though: Elliot, comment #46 in reply to comment #45&#8230;.</p>
<p>Roll-on-the-floor-LOL!!!!</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: Quibbler</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/09/cartoons/comment-page-1/#comment-11914</link>
		<dc:creator>Quibbler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough, Sean.  Sorry.

--Q</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough, Sean.  Sorry.</p>
<p>&#8211;Q</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/09/cartoons/comment-page-1/#comment-11913</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this for censorship:  the topic of this comment thread is not the way in which Lubos manages his blog.  Let&#039;s move on, shall we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this for censorship:  the topic of this comment thread is not the way in which Lubos manages his blog.  Let&#8217;s move on, shall we?</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/09/cartoons/comment-page-1/#comment-11912</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Q. Agreed, you and he have a perfect right to manage content on you blog as you see fit. But when he posts comments like:

&quot;No other blog in the world can compete with mine in the diversity of opinions that appear there.&quot;

It seems to be somewhat of a contradiction with his behavior that needs to be illuminated.

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q. Agreed, you and he have a perfect right to manage content on you blog as you see fit. But when he posts comments like:</p>
<p>&#8220;No other blog in the world can compete with mine in the diversity of opinions that appear there.&#8221;</p>
<p>It seems to be somewhat of a contradiction with his behavior that needs to be illuminated.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Quibbler</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/09/cartoons/comment-page-1/#comment-11911</link>
		<dc:creator>Quibbler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 16:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elliot -- the &quot;problem&quot; with free speech is that sometimes people say things that you don&#039;t like.  Does that mean the right to free speech should be scrapped?  of coruse not.  Dose it mean that free speech comes with a responsibility to exercise judgement?  Absolutely.  A lot of things Lubos (and others) says offend me.  I personally think they should exercise better judgment.  That&#039;s not the same as saying they shouldn&#039;t be allowed to say the things they are saying.  It does mean that there are appropriate and inappropriate places for them to say it.  Lubos can of course publish on his blog.  That&#039;s his right.  If he were to post the same thing on my blog i would probably delete it, because it offends me and in my view inhibits constructive discussion.  my bog, my rules; his blog, his rules.

--Q</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elliot &#8212; the &#8220;problem&#8221; with free speech is that sometimes people say things that you don&#8217;t like.  Does that mean the right to free speech should be scrapped?  of coruse not.  Dose it mean that free speech comes with a responsibility to exercise judgement?  Absolutely.  A lot of things Lubos (and others) says offend me.  I personally think they should exercise better judgment.  That&#8217;s not the same as saying they shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to say the things they are saying.  It does mean that there are appropriate and inappropriate places for them to say it.  Lubos can of course publish on his blog.  That&#8217;s his right.  If he were to post the same thing on my blog i would probably delete it, because it offends me and in my view inhibits constructive discussion.  my bog, my rules; his blog, his rules.</p>
<p>&#8211;Q</p>
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