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		<title>By: Science</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/22/on-the-plus-side/comment-page-1/#comment-12601</link>
		<dc:creator>Science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plato:

It is well known you can&#039;t isolate a quark from a hadron because the energy needed is more than that which would produce a new pair of quarks.  So as you pull a pair of quarks apart, the force needed increases because the energy you are using is going into creating more matter.

This is why the quark-quark force doesn&#039;t obey the inverse square law.  There is a pictorial discussion of this in a  few books (I believe it is in &quot;The Left Hand of Creation&quot;, which says the heuristic explanation of why the strong nuclear force gets weaker when quark-quark distance decreases is to do with the interference between the cloud of virtual quarks and gluons surrounding each quark).

Between nucleons, neutrons and protons, the strong force is mediated by pions and simply decreases with increasing distance by the inverse-square law and an exponential term something like exp(-x/d) where x is distance and d = hc/(2.Pi.E) from the uncertainty principle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plato:</p>
<p>It is well known you can&#8217;t isolate a quark from a hadron because the energy needed is more than that which would produce a new pair of quarks.  So as you pull a pair of quarks apart, the force needed increases because the energy you are using is going into creating more matter.</p>
<p>This is why the quark-quark force doesn&#8217;t obey the inverse square law.  There is a pictorial discussion of this in a  few books (I believe it is in &#8220;The Left Hand of Creation&#8221;, which says the heuristic explanation of why the strong nuclear force gets weaker when quark-quark distance decreases is to do with the interference between the cloud of virtual quarks and gluons surrounding each quark).</p>
<p>Between nucleons, neutrons and protons, the strong force is mediated by pions and simply decreases with increasing distance by the inverse-square law and an exponential term something like exp(-x/d) where x is distance and d = hc/(2.Pi.E) from the uncertainty principle.</p>
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		<title>By: Plato</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/22/on-the-plus-side/comment-page-1/#comment-12600</link>
		<dc:creator>Plato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 18:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Science,

I&#039;m trapped in a way of seeing.

 The situation in regards to strong force, run contradictory(in relation to strength) to distant measures in gravitational and electromagnetic forces. While the strong force gets weaker as the QQ distance gets shorter, the opposite was true, of the other two forces.

While I had been focused on the cosmo at large, the very beginning had to be included in the standard model. The standard model being complete picture minus gravitational force carrier(?) had to have ways in which to look at the &quot;strength&#039;s and weaknesses of that analogy of the membrane.&quot;

It was just &quot;ways&quot; of looking at a  mem&lt;b&gt;brane&lt;/b&gt; that had me puzzled, while in those abstract spaces, such concepts had to amount to something? &quot;Gaussian coordinates&quot; were simple, as a understanding of that field?

Layman scratching head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m trapped in a way of seeing.</p>
<p> The situation in regards to strong force, run contradictory(in relation to strength) to distant measures in gravitational and electromagnetic forces. While the strong force gets weaker as the QQ distance gets shorter, the opposite was true, of the other two forces.</p>
<p>While I had been focused on the cosmo at large, the very beginning had to be included in the standard model. The standard model being complete picture minus gravitational force carrier(?) had to have ways in which to look at the &#8220;strength&#8217;s and weaknesses of that analogy of the membrane.&#8221;</p>
<p>It was just &#8220;ways&#8221; of looking at a  mem<b>brane</b> that had me puzzled, while in those abstract spaces, such concepts had to amount to something? &#8220;Gaussian coordinates&#8221; were simple, as a understanding of that field?</p>
<p>Layman scratching head.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott O</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/22/on-the-plus-side/comment-page-1/#comment-12599</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing harder than writing good exam and HW questions.  Especially when I teach particle physics, I find that there are really only a small handful of different kinds of questions that an undergraduate is capable of calculating in a reasonable time.  You can only do so much particle physics with a group of students that doesn&#039;t know any field theory.

On the other hand, I once had a comment on my student evaluations that I asked too many different kinds of questions, instead of repeating types of problems in order to give the students more practice.  You can&#039;t win, I tell you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing harder than writing good exam and HW questions.  Especially when I teach particle physics, I find that there are really only a small handful of different kinds of questions that an undergraduate is capable of calculating in a reasonable time.  You can only do so much particle physics with a group of students that doesn&#8217;t know any field theory.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I once had a comment on my student evaluations that I asked too many different kinds of questions, instead of repeating types of problems in order to give the students more practice.  You can&#8217;t win, I tell you.</p>
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		<title>By: Science</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/22/on-the-plus-side/comment-page-1/#comment-12598</link>
		<dc:creator>Science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;... while the strong force, grows weaker...&#039;

This is why quarks have asymptotic freedom: because the strong force and electromagnetic force cancel where the strong force is weak, at around the distance of separation of quarks in hadrons.  That&#039;s because of interactions with the virtual particles (fermions, quarks) and the field of gluons around quarks.  If the strong nuclear force fell by the inverse square law and by an exponential quenching, then the hadrons would have no volume because the quarks would be on top of one another (the attractive nuclear force is much greater than the electromagnetic force).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;&#8230; while the strong force, grows weaker&#8230;&#8217;</p>
<p>This is why quarks have asymptotic freedom: because the strong force and electromagnetic force cancel where the strong force is weak, at around the distance of separation of quarks in hadrons.  That&#8217;s because of interactions with the virtual particles (fermions, quarks) and the field of gluons around quarks.  If the strong nuclear force fell by the inverse square law and by an exponential quenching, then the hadrons would have no volume because the quarks would be on top of one another (the attractive nuclear force is much greater than the electromagnetic force).</p>
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		<title>By: Plato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 02:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a layman&#039;s view.

Within context of the fundamental forces, understanding certain attributes, in relation to distance, makes this  very interesting, when applied to the &quot;unifying of forces&quot; in a global perspective?

For instance, electromagetic and gravitational forces grow stronger at shorter distances, while the strong force, grows weaker. View seen in QQ distances, in regards to strong force.

So idealization about experimentation  of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/apparatus.JPG&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gravitational force&lt;/a&gt;, let&#039;s say at shorter distances, becomes interesting perspective and question?

Froma &lt;b&gt;geometrical standpoint&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/forces/isq.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Inverse square law&lt;/a&gt; becomes applicable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a layman&#8217;s view.</p>
<p>Within context of the fundamental forces, understanding certain attributes, in relation to distance, makes this  very interesting, when applied to the &#8220;unifying of forces&#8221; in a global perspective?</p>
<p>For instance, electromagetic and gravitational forces grow stronger at shorter distances, while the strong force, grows weaker. View seen in QQ distances, in regards to strong force.</p>
<p>So idealization about experimentation  of the <a href="http://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/apparatus.JPG" rel="nofollow">gravitational force</a>, let&#8217;s say at shorter distances, becomes interesting perspective and question?</p>
<p>Froma <b>geometrical standpoint</b> <a href="http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/forces/isq.html" rel="nofollow">Inverse square law</a> becomes applicable.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree about open book exams being harder than closed book ones. My astrophysics course last semester had an open book exam that was an hour and a half rush, mainly because I spent so much time searching for things. The final was closed book (with a formula sheet), much more pleasant and much easier, although it asked questions at about the same level of difficulty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree about open book exams being harder than closed book ones. My astrophysics course last semester had an open book exam that was an hour and a half rush, mainly because I spent so much time searching for things. The final was closed book (with a formula sheet), much more pleasant and much easier, although it asked questions at about the same level of difficulty.</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as what is asked matches the duration appropriately, an exam of any length can have value, depending upon what you are testing.... from  five minutes to five days..... but it takes care to make sure to get the balance right.....

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as what is asked matches the duration appropriately, an exam of any length can have value, depending upon what you are testing&#8230;. from  five minutes to five days&#8230;.. but it takes care to make sure to get the balance right&#8230;..</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: Count Iblis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/02/22/on-the-plus-side/comment-page-1/#comment-12594</link>
		<dc:creator>Count Iblis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From my own experience, it is almost impossible to have a good one hour exam. Most exams here are 3 hours and usually we have to extend it by half an hour. The best way to test students is to give them some projects to work on. It&#039;s also more fun for the students.

Science about point 2, &lt;a href=&quot;http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/9801017&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;see here&lt;/a&gt;.

Also it is Gerard &#039;t Hooft not Gerard t&#039;Hooft :)

The problem of neutral conducting rotating spheres is actually very interesting too, &lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/ConductingRotatingSphere.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;see here.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From my own experience, it is almost impossible to have a good one hour exam. Most exams here are 3 hours and usually we have to extend it by half an hour. The best way to test students is to give them some projects to work on. It&#8217;s also more fun for the students.</p>
<p>Science about point 2, <a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/9801017" rel="nofollow">see here</a>.</p>
<p>Also it is Gerard &#8216;t Hooft not Gerard t&#8217;Hooft <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The problem of neutral conducting rotating spheres is actually very interesting too, <a href="http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/ConductingRotatingSphere.html" rel="nofollow">see here.</a></p>
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		<title>By: bittergradstudent</title>
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		<dc:creator>bittergradstudent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: cheating.  A friend of mine loves to tell the story of the time that he decided to force students to sit in randomly determined seats for exams.  This football-player looking student of his, who he had been thinking was cheating throughout the course of the semester, looked down, stressed out at his paper, and ended up getting up after 15 minutes and turned in a blank sheet of paper.

And congrats, clifford.  I love exams that push the taker to do a new calculation and learn something new within the course of the hour.  I don&#039;t think anyone got into physics in order to be able to write down the Green&#039;s function for a given differential equation, in and of itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: cheating.  A friend of mine loves to tell the story of the time that he decided to force students to sit in randomly determined seats for exams.  This football-player looking student of his, who he had been thinking was cheating throughout the course of the semester, looked down, stressed out at his paper, and ended up getting up after 15 minutes and turned in a blank sheet of paper.</p>
<p>And congrats, clifford.  I love exams that push the taker to do a new calculation and learn something new within the course of the hour.  I don&#8217;t think anyone got into physics in order to be able to write down the Green&#8217;s function for a given differential equation, in and of itself.</p>
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		<title>By: citrine</title>
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		<dc:creator>citrine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exams are a necessary evil of college life - until someone comes up with a better alternative or at least better ways of testing someone&#039;s competence in a particular subject area.

When people complain about exams I tell them that according to Socrates, &quot;the unexamined life is not worth living&quot;. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exams are a necessary evil of college life &#8211; until someone comes up with a better alternative or at least better ways of testing someone&#8217;s competence in a particular subject area.</p>
<p>When people complain about exams I tell them that according to Socrates, &#8220;the unexamined life is not worth living&#8221;. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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