Comments on: Adium for IM with LaTeX http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/ Random samplings from a universe of ideas. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 13:27:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: A Stanford Physics Student in Berkeley » Blog Archive » When did Math-phobes take over the Blogosphere? http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/comment-page-1/#comment-13490 A Stanford Physics Student in Berkeley » Blog Archive » When did Math-phobes take over the Blogosphere? Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:26:14 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/#comment-13490 [...] What really surprises me is that there is virtually no demand for wider integration of LaTex into the “everyday-Internet,” i.e. blogs, e-mail, chat. LaTeX is lingua franca of digital mathematics; it provides an easy-to-type (once you’re used to it) way to create documents with equations, graphs, and symbols. In fact, I’m stymied that math and physics students aren’t expected to learn LaTeX early in their undergraduate education… or at all, as the case was at Stanford. (I should note that there is one online community, homework-help forums such as Physics Forums, that regularly makes use of LaTeX.) [...] [...] What really surprises me is that there is virtually no demand for wider integration of LaTex into the “everyday-Internet,” i.e. blogs, e-mail, chat. LaTeX is lingua franca of digital mathematics; it provides an easy-to-type (once you’re used to it) way to create documents with equations, graphs, and symbols. In fact, I’m stymied that math and physics students aren’t expected to learn LaTeX early in their undergraduate education… or at all, as the case was at Stanford. (I should note that there is one online community, homework-help forums such as Physics Forums, that regularly makes use of LaTeX.) [...]

]]> By: RossBoucher.Com >> Funk Rock » Blog Archive » What goes around http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/comment-page-1/#comment-13489 RossBoucher.Com >> Funk Rock » Blog Archive » What goes around Wed, 22 Mar 2006 04:33:20 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/#comment-13489 [...] Now, over the course of multiple formats and OS installs, I’d forgotten all about LaTEX (but have still used Adium) until a few days ago when my friend Jeff (a math major) was putting it on his new MacBook Pro. Remembering the neat trick in Adium (and having basically set up all the software Jeff uses on his computer, through another recent mac convert), I told him about it, and he tried it out, and predictably he loved it. So much, that he told his professor about it; and so the reason for this post. Jeff’s professor happens to be Clifford Johnson, who also happens to keep a blog, Cosmic Variance. After he showed the whole Adium inline LaTEX thing, Clifford Johnson thought it was so great he wrote a whole post about it! [...] [...] Now, over the course of multiple formats and OS installs, I’d forgotten all about LaTEX (but have still used Adium) until a few days ago when my friend Jeff (a math major) was putting it on his new MacBook Pro. Remembering the neat trick in Adium (and having basically set up all the software Jeff uses on his computer, through another recent mac convert), I told him about it, and he tried it out, and predictably he loved it. So much, that he told his professor about it; and so the reason for this post. Jeff’s professor happens to be Clifford Johnson, who also happens to keep a blog, Cosmic Variance. After he showed the whole Adium inline LaTEX thing, Clifford Johnson thought it was so great he wrote a whole post about it! [...]

]]> By: Clifford http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/comment-page-1/#comment-13488 Clifford Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:28:51 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/#comment-13488 citrine:- Well, it shoudl be just treated like IM. But with equations. It is not intended to replace other means of discussion, but sit alongside them as a tool one can use for communication. The "and if you can look at this" pointing can just be done by putting the "this" in the next line, etc..... just like in any IM conversation, etc, etc. Standard figure files can be dragged and dropped into IM clients quite easily, by the way. The butterfly and I are getting on rather well, in fact. We seem to be on the same wavelength. This could be the start of a beautiful relationship..... -cvj citrine:- Well, it shoudl be just treated like IM. But with equations. It is not intended to replace other means of discussion, but sit alongside them as a tool one can use for communication.

The “and if you can look at this” pointing can just be done by putting the “this” in the next line, etc….. just like in any IM conversation, etc, etc.

Standard figure files can be dragged and dropped into IM clients quite easily, by the way.

The butterfly and I are getting on rather well, in fact. We seem to be on the same wavelength.

This could be the start of a beautiful relationship…..

-cvj

]]> By: Clifford http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/comment-page-1/#comment-13487 Clifford Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:22:57 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/#comment-13487 Ok guys. That's more than enough. Cut that out. Move along now. -cvj Ok guys. That’s more than enough. Cut that out. Move along now.

-cvj

]]> By: Adam http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/comment-page-1/#comment-13486 Adam Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:05:03 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/#comment-13486 He is the argument of the delta function of cool. He is the argument of the delta function of cool.

]]> By: Sean http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/comment-page-1/#comment-13485 Sean Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:02:12 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/#comment-13485 And Clifford should know! And Clifford should know!

]]> By: Clifford http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/comment-page-1/#comment-13484 Clifford Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:57:36 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/#comment-13484 Adam, There are no fundamental upper limits to coolness. -cvj Adam,

There are no fundamental upper limits to coolness.

-cvj

]]> By: Adam http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/comment-page-1/#comment-13483 Adam Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:32:01 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/#comment-13483 So, if I get a mac, not only will I look as cool as all hell, but I'll be able to markup my equations for transmitting to all the other cool as all hell mac users via the miracle of IRC. This much coolness endangers the very fabric of spacetime itself. Steve Jobs should be kept in a lead box for all of our protection. So, if I get a mac, not only will I look as cool as all hell, but I’ll be able to markup my equations for transmitting to all the other cool as all hell mac users via the miracle of IRC.

This much coolness endangers the very fabric of spacetime itself. Steve Jobs should be kept in a lead box for all of our protection.

]]> By: citrine http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/comment-page-1/#comment-13482 citrine Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:16:50 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/#comment-13482 Hi Clifford, How do you incorporate your string theory diagrams into this exchange? How do you simulate real-time pointing ("and if you look at this ...")? Your conversations with the butterfly are cute. This reminds me of the conversations Alice (of Wonderland fame) had with the Cheshire cat, the Mad Hatter, the caterpillar with the hookah, etc. etc. Hi Clifford,

How do you incorporate your string theory diagrams into this exchange? How do you simulate real-time pointing (“and if you look at this …”)?

Your conversations with the butterfly are cute. This reminds me of the conversations Alice (of Wonderland fame) had with the Cheshire cat, the Mad Hatter, the caterpillar with the hookah, etc. etc.

]]> By: agm http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/comment-page-1/#comment-13481 agm Tue, 21 Mar 2006 05:51:32 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/#comment-13481 After reading the relevant comment, I feel called upon to point out that the documentation states that some hacking needs be done if one wants to try to use gaim-latex in windows. The author flat out states that he did not and will not port it over, then gives his guess as to what needs to be done. Several discussions picked up by a google seach also say that it doesn't work. Which makes me damn jealous. After reading the relevant comment, I feel called upon to point out that the documentation states that some hacking needs be done if one wants to try to use gaim-latex in windows. The author flat out states that he did not and will not port it over, then gives his guess as to what needs to be done. Several discussions picked up by a google seach also say that it doesn’t work.

Which makes me damn jealous.

]]> By: Clifford http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/comment-page-1/#comment-13480 Clifford Tue, 21 Mar 2006 05:25:12 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/#comment-13480 Nick, How the devil are you, mate? Yes, I know about LaTeXIT, but have not got around to using it yet. I like Equation Service so much....Thanks for the reminder. It does sound as though it has useful extra features that I should take advantage of.... Yes! Please continue to tell people about how they can get around LA without always using a car.... You owe it to LA after the van.... (That was a great van though.....) Stay in touch! Cheers, -cvj Nick,

How the devil are you, mate?

Yes, I know about LaTeXIT, but have not got around to using it yet. I like Equation Service so much….Thanks for the reminder. It does sound as though it has useful extra features that I should take advantage of….

Yes! Please continue to tell people about how they can get around LA without always using a car…. You owe it to LA after the van…. (That was a great van though…..)

Stay in touch!

Cheers,

-cvj

]]> By: Max http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/comment-page-1/#comment-13479 Max Tue, 21 Mar 2006 03:08:36 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/#comment-13479 <blockquote>If the other person is not using Adium, I imagine that the raw latex comes up..... Have not tested that...</blockquote> That's what happens with the gaim-latex plugin which does the same thing for gaim (which adium is based on) for linux and windows. I discovered this to my disapointment when discoussing some thing from class with another student and being asked "what's with all the dollar signs?" But this should work cross-platform with gaim-latex on windows and linux.

If the other person is not using Adium, I imagine that the raw latex comes up….. Have not tested that…

That’s what happens with the gaim-latex plugin which does the same thing for gaim (which adium is based on) for linux and windows.

I discovered this to my disapointment when discoussing some thing from class with another student and being asked “what’s with all the dollar signs?”

But this should work cross-platform with gaim-latex on windows and linux.

]]> By: Clifford http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/comment-page-1/#comment-13478 Clifford Tue, 21 Mar 2006 02:07:49 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/#comment-13478 Oooh, Quibbler, the whole point of Adium is that it speaks a wider variety of AIM lingos than most applications. If the other person is not using Adium, I imagine that the raw latex comes up..... Have not tested that..... -cvj Oooh, Quibbler, the whole point of Adium is that it speaks a wider variety of AIM lingos than most applications.

If the other person is not using Adium, I imagine that the raw latex comes up….. Have not tested that…..

-cvj

]]> By: adam http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/comment-page-1/#comment-13477 adam Tue, 21 Mar 2006 01:33:00 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/#comment-13477 March of the iNerds. March of the iNerds.

]]> By: Sourav http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/comment-page-1/#comment-13476 Sourav Tue, 21 Mar 2006 01:30:14 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/#comment-13476 For those of us too cheap or stubborn to use OS X, there's also gaim-latex for gaim -- uses the same syntax. For those of us too cheap or stubborn to use OS X, there’s also gaim-latex for gaim — uses the same syntax.

]]> By: Nick Halmagyi http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/comment-page-1/#comment-13475 Nick Halmagyi Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:27:32 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/#comment-13475 yo Clifford howzitgaan? I recall you put me onto equation service a while back, I updated a bit ago to latexIT http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/26594 just thought Id let you know. it retains all your old equations which makes it pretty useful. youd be proud of me, I was just expounding the virtues of LA public transit to a future resident. Mildly hypocritical I know since my old van (may she R.I.P.) contributed to a pink sunset or two while I was there... nick yo Clifford howzitgaan?

I recall you put me onto equation service a while back, I updated a bit ago to latexIT

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/26594

just thought Id let you know. it retains all your old equations which makes it pretty useful.

youd be proud of me, I was just expounding the virtues of LA public transit to a future resident. Mildly hypocritical I know since my old van (may she R.I.P.) contributed to a pink sunset or two while I was there…

nick

]]> By: Quibbler http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/comment-page-1/#comment-13474 Quibbler Mon, 20 Mar 2006 23:28:14 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/#comment-13474 Is this feature AIM compatible? I'm a mac person, but an unfortunately large number of people i IM with are windows types... --Q. Is this feature AIM compatible? I’m a mac person, but an unfortunately large number of people i IM with are windows types…

–Q.

]]> By: Clifford http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/comment-page-1/#comment-13473 Clifford Mon, 20 Mar 2006 22:25:58 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/#comment-13473 Helge, thanks! Yet another reason to make the switch! -cvj Helge, thanks! Yet another reason to make the switch!

-cvj

]]> By: Helge http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/comment-page-1/#comment-13472 Helge Mon, 20 Mar 2006 22:12:56 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/#comment-13472 Just a pointer for all the windows users out there, www.miranda-im.org this also supports some kind of equation implementation. It's just not full LaTeX. It's something else ... Just a pointer for all the windows users out there, http://www.miranda-im.org this also supports some kind of equation implementation. It’s just not full LaTeX. It’s something else …

]]> By: The OpenScience Project » Adium X http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/comment-page-1/#comment-13471 The OpenScience Project » Adium X Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:16:35 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/19/adium-for-im-with-latex/#comment-13471 [...] The cool thing about it is that if you happen to have the OS X Equation Service installed, you can IM latex-style equations, and they are automatically converted to equations on the fly. There’s a post about it at Cosmic Variance. [...] [...] The cool thing about it is that if you happen to have the OS X Equation Service installed, you can IM latex-style equations, and they are automatically converted to equations on the fly. There’s a post about it at Cosmic Variance. [...]

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