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		<title>By: Categorically Not! - Vulgarization - Asymptotia</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/28/intuitively-excellent/comment-page-1/#comment-14000</link>
		<dc:creator>Categorically Not! - Vulgarization - Asymptotia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 05:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The next Categorically Not! is Sunday 25th March. The Categorically Not! series of events that are held at the Santa Monica Art Studios, (with occasional exceptions). It&#8217;s a series - started and run by science writer K. C. Cole - of fun and informative conversations deliberately ignoring the traditional boundaries between art, science, humanities, and other subjects. I strongly encourage you to come to them if you&#8217;re in the area. There&#8217;s a new website showing past and upcoming events here. You can also have a look at some of the descriptions I did of some events in some earlier posts (such as here and here), and the description of some of the recent special ones on Point of View and Uncertainty that I organized with K. C. as USC campus events (here, here (video) and here). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The next Categorically Not! is Sunday 25th March. The Categorically Not! series of events that are held at the Santa Monica Art Studios, (with occasional exceptions). It&#8217;s a series &#8211; started and run by science writer K. C. Cole &#8211; of fun and informative conversations deliberately ignoring the traditional boundaries between art, science, humanities, and other subjects. I strongly encourage you to come to them if you&#8217;re in the area. There&#8217;s a new website showing past and upcoming events here. You can also have a look at some of the descriptions I did of some events in some earlier posts (such as here and here), and the description of some of the recent special ones on Point of View and Uncertainty that I organized with K. C. as USC campus events (here, here (video) and here). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Categorically Not! - Movement - Asymptotia</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/28/intuitively-excellent/comment-page-1/#comment-13999</link>
		<dc:creator>Categorically Not! - Movement - Asymptotia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 17:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The next Categorically Not! is Sunday 7th January. The Categorically Not! series of events are held at the Santa Monica Art Studios, (with ocassional exceptions). They&#8217;re a series - started and run by science writer K. C. Cole - of fun and informative conversations deliberately ignoring the traditional boundaries between art, science, humanities, and other subjects. I strongly encourage you to come to them if you&#8217;re in the area. There&#8217;s a website of past and upcoming events here. You can also have a look at two of the last two descriptions I did of some events here and here, and the description of a recent special one on Uncertainty that was held at the USC campus is here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The next Categorically Not! is Sunday 7th January. The Categorically Not! series of events are held at the Santa Monica Art Studios, (with ocassional exceptions). They&#8217;re a series &#8211; started and run by science writer K. C. Cole &#8211; of fun and informative conversations deliberately ignoring the traditional boundaries between art, science, humanities, and other subjects. I strongly encourage you to come to them if you&#8217;re in the area. There&#8217;s a website of past and upcoming events here. You can also have a look at two of the last two descriptions I did of some events here and here, and the description of a recent special one on Uncertainty that was held at the USC campus is here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Categorically Not! - Apocalypse! &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/03/28/intuitively-excellent/comment-page-1/#comment-13996</link>
		<dc:creator>Categorically Not! - Apocalypse! &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The next Categorically Not! is Sunday 24th September. You may recall my post on the Categorically Not! series of events held at the Santa Monica Art Studios. They&#8217;re fantastic, and I strongly encourage you to come to them. Have a look at the last two descriptions here and here, and the description of the recent special one on Uncertainty that was held at the USC campus is here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The next Categorically Not! is Sunday 24th September. You may recall my post on the Categorically Not! series of events held at the Santa Monica Art Studios. They&#8217;re fantastic, and I strongly encourage you to come to them. Have a look at the last two descriptions here and here, and the description of the recent special one on Uncertainty that was held at the USC campus is here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Uncertainty - Asymptotia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncertainty - Asymptotia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 01:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] These are, as I said, events that build upon the Categorically Not! series held at Santa Monica arts studios on Sundays, and about which I have blogged extensively on Cosmic Variance (see some recent descriptions here and here). The old Categorically Not! series stop will not stop. The Santa Monica series will continue, but there will be some gaps to accommodate the USC events. We hope that the regular Santa Monica crowd will make the short trip across the city to USC on those nights. For more information on all Categorically Not! - type events, visit the Categorically Not! website. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] These are, as I said, events that build upon the Categorically Not! series held at Santa Monica arts studios on Sundays, and about which I have blogged extensively on Cosmic Variance (see some recent descriptions here and here). The old Categorically Not! series stop will not stop. The Santa Monica series will continue, but there will be some gaps to accommodate the USC events. We hope that the regular Santa Monica crowd will make the short trip across the city to USC on those nights. For more information on all Categorically Not! &#8211; type events, visit the Categorically Not! website. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Categorically Not! - Uncertainty (Revisited) &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Categorically Not! - Uncertainty (Revisited) &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 00:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The next Categorically Not! is Thursday 31st August. You may recall my post on the Categorically Not! series of events, started by K. C. Cole, and held at the Santa Monica Art Studios. They&#8217;re fantastic, and I strongly encourage you to come to them. Have a look at the last two descriptions here and here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The next Categorically Not! is Thursday 31st August. You may recall my post on the Categorically Not! series of events, started by K. C. Cole, and held at the Santa Monica Art Studios. They&#8217;re fantastic, and I strongly encourage you to come to them. Have a look at the last two descriptions here and here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Really Excellent &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Really Excellent &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 06:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The evening did not end with the conclusion of the presentations. No, we all went to dinner and filled up a giant table in the nearby restaurant Typhoon, like  last time. I won&#8217;t attempt to describe all the excellent conversations that I could hear going on around me there. Instead I&#8217;ll end with a lovely image of Bob Miller explaining about colour mixing and imagine through a pinhole (and how even after you take away the pinhole, its effects are still there -empty space is just a infinite number of pinholes-) to a transfixed impromptu gathering after the evening&#8217;s event was over, making us all late for dinner and therefore really really hungry for more discussion, interaction, and yes, food. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The evening did not end with the conclusion of the presentations. No, we all went to dinner and filled up a giant table in the nearby restaurant Typhoon, like  last time. I won&#8217;t attempt to describe all the excellent conversations that I could hear going on around me there. Instead I&#8217;ll end with a lovely image of Bob Miller explaining about colour mixing and imagine through a pinhole (and how even after you take away the pinhole, its effects are still there -empty space is just a infinite number of pinholes-) to a transfixed impromptu gathering after the evening&#8217;s event was over, making us all late for dinner and therefore really really hungry for more discussion, interaction, and yes, food. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Plato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Click on name as each entry is different. I had to catch up today, so two links with thoughts.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;True creativity often starts where language ends&lt;/i&gt;-&lt;b&gt;Arthur Koestler&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is as applicable to our &lt;a href=&quot;http://eskesthai.blogspot.com/2006/04/describing-intuitive-process.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;search for wordings&lt;/a&gt;, as it is for science/math?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Click on name as each entry is different. I had to catch up today, so two links with thoughts.</p>
<blockquote><p><i>True creativity often starts where language ends</i>-<b>Arthur Koestler</b></p></blockquote>
<p>This is as applicable to our <a href="http://eskesthai.blogspot.com/2006/04/describing-intuitive-process.html" rel="nofollow">search for wordings</a>, as it is for science/math?</p>
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		<title>By: alisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>alisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Apr 2006 09:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would hate to be responsible for describing everyone&#039;s creative processes-

but i am glad that some are able to describe their own-

and i can&#039;t remember if i said this before- here. but i am quite glad that feelings/intuition are not &quot;just&quot; feelings/intuition anymore.

i would say, how great it is, that we can accept these things as valid means of exploration/expression.
and scientific exploration at that-(ie not &quot;just&quot; artistic)
historically, women have been put down for acknowledging their intuition and living by their feelings. and men, it seems, have caused plenty of trouble by &quot;proving&quot; their powerful feelings in more &quot;authentic&quot; ways.
 acceptance becomes a huge step to be able to make-

and i also was thinking- re plato- what if living a more &quot;conscious&quot; life meant listening more to the unconscious mind? not only paying attention to our exterior surroundings but the inner workings of the mind-which, of course, is how we come to have these brilliant people describing new and complicated theories for us-they have listened to their inner voices and were able to bring them forth!

so we have valid need to respect and trust both the intuitive and the reasoning minds-thats the hard part-i think-to give both an even hand(so to speak)-even if one works oriented in one way or the other.

do you know where and when, you are more likely to have intuitive thoughts?
does anyone really feel that they truly trust them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would hate to be responsible for describing everyone&#8217;s creative processes-</p>
<p>but i am glad that some are able to describe their own-</p>
<p>and i can&#8217;t remember if i said this before- here. but i am quite glad that feelings/intuition are not &#8220;just&#8221; feelings/intuition anymore.</p>
<p>i would say, how great it is, that we can accept these things as valid means of exploration/expression.<br />
and scientific exploration at that-(ie not &#8220;just&#8221; artistic)<br />
historically, women have been put down for acknowledging their intuition and living by their feelings. and men, it seems, have caused plenty of trouble by &#8220;proving&#8221; their powerful feelings in more &#8220;authentic&#8221; ways.<br />
 acceptance becomes a huge step to be able to make-</p>
<p>and i also was thinking- re plato- what if living a more &#8220;conscious&#8221; life meant listening more to the unconscious mind? not only paying attention to our exterior surroundings but the inner workings of the mind-which, of course, is how we come to have these brilliant people describing new and complicated theories for us-they have listened to their inner voices and were able to bring them forth!</p>
<p>so we have valid need to respect and trust both the intuitive and the reasoning minds-thats the hard part-i think-to give both an even hand(so to speak)-even if one works oriented in one way or the other.</p>
<p>do you know where and when, you are more likely to have intuitive thoughts?<br />
does anyone really feel that they truly trust them?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2006 17:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I said that intuition is hard to grasp I didn&#039;t mean it is hard for me to grasp, I was generally speaking.  When i have a &quot;stroke of genious&quot; i never call it intuition because i understand how and why the idea came to me.

Although when i was a kid i would have called it intuition when i had an idea because i was not old enough to figure out where it came from, looking back now with a broader mind i can easily see how the intuitive ideas, i had as a kid, came to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I said that intuition is hard to grasp I didn&#8217;t mean it is hard for me to grasp, I was generally speaking.  When i have a &#8220;stroke of genious&#8221; i never call it intuition because i understand how and why the idea came to me.</p>
<p>Although when i was a kid i would have called it intuition when i had an idea because i was not old enough to figure out where it came from, looking back now with a broader mind i can easily see how the intuitive ideas, i had as a kid, came to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Plato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2006 14:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Creativity is more about understanding the medium you are working in and going beyond that to make something new. It involves knowledge and independent thought not some feeling that appears magically.&lt;/i&gt;

I think everyone might agree on this point already?

 &lt;i&gt;Intuition can not stand alone&lt;/i&gt;

Working from a inductive/deductive curve, in whatever medium.....

&lt;i&gt;Maybe thats why its so hard to grasp because the people that use intuition just accept it for what it is and don&#039;t question it&lt;/i&gt;

KNowing that it might arise from the unconscious(where is that) would not relegate it to something not feasible? We might know when these conditions are best, would not have allowed this process, to work/not work?

&lt;b&gt;Art Mirrors Physics Mirrors Art&lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;by Stephen G. Brush&lt;/i&gt;


&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;The French mathematician Henri PoincarÃ© provided inspiration for both Einstein and Picasso.&lt;/b&gt; Einstein read PoincarÃ©&#039;s Science and Hypothesis (French edition 1902, German translation 1904) and discussed it with his friends in Bern. He might also have read PoincarÃ©&#039;s 1898 article on the measurement of time, in which the synchronization of clocks was discussed--a topic of professional interest to Einstein as a patent examiner. Picasso learned about Science and Hypothesis indirectly through Maurice Princet, an insurance actuary who explained the new geometry to Picasso and his friends in Paris. At that time there was considerable popular fascination with the idea of a fourth spatial dimension, thought by some to be the home of spirits, conceived by others as an &quot;astral plane&quot; where one can see all sides of an object at once. The British novelist H. G. Wells caused a sensation with his book The Time Machine (1895, French translation in a popular magazine 1898-99), where the fourth dimension was time, not space. &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Creativity is more about understanding the medium you are working in and going beyond that to make something new. It involves knowledge and independent thought not some feeling that appears magically.</i></p>
<p>I think everyone might agree on this point already?</p>
<p> <i>Intuition can not stand alone</i></p>
<p>Working from a inductive/deductive curve, in whatever medium&#8230;..</p>
<p><i>Maybe thats why its so hard to grasp because the people that use intuition just accept it for what it is and don&#8217;t question it</i></p>
<p>KNowing that it might arise from the unconscious(where is that) would not relegate it to something not feasible? We might know when these conditions are best, would not have allowed this process, to work/not work?</p>
<p><b>Art Mirrors Physics Mirrors Art</b><i>by Stephen G. Brush</i></p>
<blockquote><p><b>The French mathematician Henri PoincarÃ© provided inspiration for both Einstein and Picasso.</b> Einstein read PoincarÃ©&#8217;s Science and Hypothesis (French edition 1902, German translation 1904) and discussed it with his friends in Bern. He might also have read PoincarÃ©&#8217;s 1898 article on the measurement of time, in which the synchronization of clocks was discussed&#8211;a topic of professional interest to Einstein as a patent examiner. Picasso learned about Science and Hypothesis indirectly through Maurice Princet, an insurance actuary who explained the new geometry to Picasso and his friends in Paris. At that time there was considerable popular fascination with the idea of a fourth spatial dimension, thought by some to be the home of spirits, conceived by others as an &#8220;astral plane&#8221; where one can see all sides of an object at once. The British novelist H. G. Wells caused a sensation with his book The Time Machine (1895, French translation in a popular magazine 1898-99), where the fourth dimension was time, not space. </p></blockquote>
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