And yes, I agree that there is excellent Jazz in LA once you dig a little. It just is parcelled out differently, and less late nights (and strong liquor!) is involved, for better or worse.

(If you’ve time, give me shout out to let me know when and where you’re playing next, by the way!)

Cheers,

-cvj

Kleber Jorge is the regular band member in “Braziliando” but that night at Vitellos, it was me, Mitchell Long, filling in for Kleber.

Hey, just a note to let you know we loved playing for you, your coming in saved the night. It was my first time playing there, and it was sad that there were not more people there, its a great room.

Believe it or not, empty rooms or not, Jazz does live on in LA. Infact I was talking with a guy that came out to review the show that night who was telling incredible stories about the great jazz scene here over the years. Jazz comes and goes out of style to the public but it never dies to the artists. But I agree this town closes down too early!

I would not go as far as saying that there is a lack of opportunity to socialize here. I think that things are just organized differently. While the New-York style jazz club model is not so easy to find here, there are a ton of other ways of socializing.

And I’m sorry you did not have a good time being single here. That’s sad, since I think this is possibly one of the best cities on the planet in which to be single. Meeting people (I will ignore your crude struck remark) is remarkably easy, and you can make friends of all types from numerous parts of the world and walks of life.

Summary: I was just talking about the fact that people go home early, and that this is even worse during the rain. I was not extrapolating this into a condemnation of the entire social scene in LA, which can be *fantastic*, if you just go outside your door and find it.

-cvj

key difference in this case….. [has] much more to do with a different attitude.

Clifford,

Are your alluding to the fact that Angelinos are weather wusses? That the weather is so nice there that local rain storms are headline news? Or are you referring to the notoriously weak night life and the relative lack of opportunities to socialize there?

I don’t know whether things have changed much recently, but L.A. has never been a great town in which to be single. While I’ve never lived on the east coast, my experience with midwestern and southern college towns is that it’s far easier to get laid meet people there than in L.A.

Cynthia, did you actually view   the lectures you referenced? What on earth does carbon dioxide sequestration have to do with car traffic? or with the thread?

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Dear Cynthia,

Thanks so much. No more wise thoughts on this topic on this thread please.

-cvj

-cvj

Are moods shaped by the weather in LA? Hence, home is the place where one is most safe and sound, least they get rained on, or caught in a wind?

I think the terrains could change much in tolerance, if what LA had thought as cold and dreary, New York thought, ah what the heck just another day?

I think that as well coming from the weather I do, to those who are having fun in the garden already.

That is a difference, I agree, but in my opinion that is not the key difference in this case….. this is much more to do with a different attitude.

Actually, Spiderman can not get terribly far in New York by purely swinging from skyscrapers either. Once he’s cleared a fair amount of lower and mid Manhattan, the terrain’s hardly any different from much of mid city Los Angeles.

Cheers,

-cvj

The difference between New York and younger cities like L.A. (that grew up after the invention of the automobile) is population density. Just compare the skylines. L.A. is still a flat town. Had Spiderman lived in L.A., he would have been reduced to driving his SUV to chase after villains.