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	<title>Comments on: Hidden Treasures</title>
	<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/04/22/hidden-treasures/</link>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 05:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Hills Were Alive - Asymptotia</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/04/22/hidden-treasures/#comment-15089</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hills Were Alive - Asymptotia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 08:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/04/22/hidden-treasures/#comment-15089</guid>
		<description>[...] Beverly Hills, that is. The Da Camera Society (a chamber music society I mentioned last year) arranged a concert by the Janaki String Trio in the Beverly Hills Women&#8217;s Club. Click the (no-flash, not-while-they-played) photo for a larger version. I&#8217;m a Beethoven nut, and so having two of his string trios on the program was excellent. There was also a trio by Shubert that I liked a lot. There were two bonuses however. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Beverly Hills, that is. The Da Camera Society (a chamber music society I mentioned last year) arranged a concert by the Janaki String Trio in the Beverly Hills Women&#8217;s Club. Click the (no-flash, not-while-they-played) photo for a larger version. I&#8217;m a Beethoven nut, and so having two of his string trios on the program was excellent. There was also a trio by Shubert that I liked a lot. There were two bonuses however. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/04/22/hidden-treasures/#comment-15088</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/04/22/hidden-treasures/#comment-15088</guid>
		<description>Janet, Thanks. I did not know that.

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janet, Thanks. I did not know that.</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: janet</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/04/22/hidden-treasures/#comment-15087</link>
		<dc:creator>janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/04/22/hidden-treasures/#comment-15087</guid>
		<description>It seems appropriate to note here that Jane Jacobs, author of "The Death and Life of Great American Cities," died yesterday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems appropriate to note here that Jane Jacobs, author of &#8220;The Death and Life of Great American Cities,&#8221; died yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/04/22/hidden-treasures/#comment-15086</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/04/22/hidden-treasures/#comment-15086</guid>
		<description>Hi MJ,

Yes it is fantastic! You can see some interiors of it in earlier posts of mine on music....

Gehry's extension of that region has just been announced...there will be several new buildings added in the block over the road...part of the rejuvenation of the Downtown area with new residences, shops, cafes, restaurants.

Cheers,

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi MJ,</p>
<p>Yes it is fantastic! You can see some interiors of it in earlier posts of mine on music&#8230;.</p>
<p>Gehry&#8217;s extension of that region has just been announced&#8230;there will be several new buildings added in the block over the road&#8230;part of the rejuvenation of the Downtown area with new residences, shops, cafes, restaurants.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/04/22/hidden-treasures/#comment-15085</link>
		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/04/22/hidden-treasures/#comment-15085</guid>
		<description>Interesting coincidence that only today there was a short number on Swedish radio about Frank Gehry, where the Music Centre was called the most beautiful modern building in the US, and a piece of art in its own right.

After seeing pictures on the web, I must say that I would like to see it in real life too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting coincidence that only today there was a short number on Swedish radio about Frank Gehry, where the Music Centre was called the most beautiful modern building in the US, and a piece of art in its own right.</p>
<p>After seeing pictures on the web, I must say that I would like to see it in real life too.</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/04/22/hidden-treasures/#comment-15073</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/04/22/hidden-treasures/#comment-15073</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

But it is also true that Los Angeles is less centralized, less walkable, and has more of a car culture and less of a public transportation system than New York City.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

All true. Nowhere do I say anything to the contrary.

Cheers,

-cvj</description>
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<p>But it is also true that Los Angeles is less centralized, less walkable, and has more of a car culture and less of a public transportation system than New York City.</p>
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<p>All true. Nowhere do I say anything to the contrary.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: joke</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/04/22/hidden-treasures/#comment-15074</link>
		<dc:creator>joke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 19:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/04/22/hidden-treasures/#comment-15074</guid>
		<description>Clifford, I read your post on public transportation in LA. I must admit I was sort of surprised, and glad to hear about it.

All these things are relative. Of course it is possible to live happily in LA, walk places, take public transit and not have a car. It is probably even possible to do that in Houston! But it is also true that Los Angeles is less centralized, less walkable, and has more of a car culture and less of a public transportation system than New York City. That's not hearsay, and there is nothing wrong with it. In fact, many people would find it preferable to living in a dirty, chaotic city, working eighty hours a week to afford a tiny, absurdly expensive fifth-floor walkup, constantly being awoken by car alarms, and living in perpetual fear of a cockroach infestation. These are all stereotypes about New York that happen to be true, to a greater or lesser extent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clifford, I read your post on public transportation in LA. I must admit I was sort of surprised, and glad to hear about it.</p>
<p>All these things are relative. Of course it is possible to live happily in LA, walk places, take public transit and not have a car. It is probably even possible to do that in Houston! But it is also true that Los Angeles is less centralized, less walkable, and has more of a car culture and less of a public transportation system than New York City. That&#8217;s not hearsay, and there is nothing wrong with it. In fact, many people would find it preferable to living in a dirty, chaotic city, working eighty hours a week to afford a tiny, absurdly expensive fifth-floor walkup, constantly being awoken by car alarms, and living in perpetual fear of a cockroach infestation. These are all stereotypes about New York that happen to be true, to a greater or lesser extent.</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/04/22/hidden-treasures/#comment-15075</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/04/22/hidden-treasures/#comment-15075</guid>
		<description>Janet... thanks.....  No I've not read any of her books, but I think I've read articles by her. I will add to the list of things to read. Thanks!

A nice salon interview on the topic (food snobbery)  can be found here: http://www.salon.com/nov96/interview961118.html

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janet&#8230; thanks&#8230;..  No I&#8217;ve not read any of her books, but I think I&#8217;ve read articles by her. I will add to the list of things to read. Thanks!</p>
<p>A nice salon interview on the topic (food snobbery)  can be found here: <a href="http://www.salon.com/nov96/interview961118.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/nov96/interview961118.html</a></p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/04/22/hidden-treasures/#comment-15076</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/04/22/hidden-treasures/#comment-15076</guid>
		<description>Joke, you can walk here, and as Janet said, there are seasons. Also you do not need to own a car (although I agree that we've a way to go before you can fully explore *all* of the city's offerings in an efficient way without one...but you certainly can get around a lot without one, and explore a vast number of things using the remarkably extensive bus system, and growing subway-rail  system.... If you don't believe me, see my post on that issue &lt;a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/11/14/one-day-soon/" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;).

This is exactly what I'm talking about... more incorrect assumptions based on often-repeated cliches.


Also, you said:


&lt;blockquote&gt;
I don't really think the East coast culture is necessarily European-wannabe, though,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree... and said myself that it was a deliberately playful over-simplification.... but that's also my point. There are so many innaccurate characterizations of LA (examples of which you readily provided above), so I get to use an inaccurate characterization in the other direction just this once.... :-)


Cheers,

-cvj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joke, you can walk here, and as Janet said, there are seasons. Also you do not need to own a car (although I agree that we&#8217;ve a way to go before you can fully explore *all* of the city&#8217;s offerings in an efficient way without one&#8230;but you certainly can get around a lot without one, and explore a vast number of things using the remarkably extensive bus system, and growing subway-rail  system&#8230;. If you don&#8217;t believe me, see my post on that issue <a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/11/14/one-day-soon/" rel="nofollow">here</a>).</p>
<p>This is exactly what I&#8217;m talking about&#8230; more incorrect assumptions based on often-repeated cliches.</p>
<p>Also, you said:</p>
<blockquote><p>
I don&#8217;t really think the East coast culture is necessarily European-wannabe, though,</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree&#8230; and said myself that it was a deliberately playful over-simplification&#8230;. but that&#8217;s also my point. There are so many innaccurate characterizations of LA (examples of which you readily provided above), so I get to use an inaccurate characterization in the other direction just this once&#8230;. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>-cvj</p>
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		<title>By: janet</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/04/22/hidden-treasures/#comment-15077</link>
		<dc:creator>janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/04/22/hidden-treasures/#comment-15077</guid>
		<description>joke, we do have seasons in California. They're just not the same seasons as in other climates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joke, we do have seasons in California. They&#8217;re just not the same seasons as in other climates.</p>
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