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		<title>By: Nigel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 13:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey have you seen this

http://www.thes.co.uk/current_edition/story.aspx?story_id=2030031

with all the background to it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scas.streamlinenettrial.co.uk/public_html/SCAS/index.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey have you seen this</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thes.co.uk/current_edition/story.aspx?story_id=2030031" rel="nofollow">http://www.thes.co.uk/current_edition/story.aspx?story_id=2030031</a></p>
<p>with all the background to it <a href="http://www.scas.streamlinenettrial.co.uk/public_html/SCAS/index.htm" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steinn Sigurdsson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steinn Sigurdsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 17:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne,
The reality is that the physics and mathematics faculty has been cut in half, many fewer degree options are being offered, enrollment is sharply down and one of Sussex&#039;s attractions for undergrad - the broad range of minors and double degrees is mostly gone.
MAPS and MOLS schools were closed and amalgamated and re-amalgamated because they weren&#039;t viable any longer as coherent units. Not enough students and shrinking faculty lines. Folding chemistry in with physics and then moving physics into engineering and chemistry into bio is not a good sign. For one thing the senior administration of the schools will have very different priorities from the departments, and there will be pressure to focus on service courses.
Looking at the faculty, Sussex seems to have lost solid state experimental groups and nuclear physics as well as particle physics. Cosmology has grown.

I don&#039;t know why enrollment in physical sciences is down in US and western Europe, but it is real and damaging and the universities are reacting to it by retreating into &quot;informatics&quot; and psychology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne,<br />
The reality is that the physics and mathematics faculty has been cut in half, many fewer degree options are being offered, enrollment is sharply down and one of Sussex&#8217;s attractions for undergrad &#8211; the broad range of minors and double degrees is mostly gone.<br />
MAPS and MOLS schools were closed and amalgamated and re-amalgamated because they weren&#8217;t viable any longer as coherent units. Not enough students and shrinking faculty lines. Folding chemistry in with physics and then moving physics into engineering and chemistry into bio is not a good sign. For one thing the senior administration of the schools will have very different priorities from the departments, and there will be pressure to focus on service courses.<br />
Looking at the faculty, Sussex seems to have lost solid state experimental groups and nuclear physics as well as particle physics. Cosmology has grown.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why enrollment in physical sciences is down in US and western Europe, but it is real and damaging and the universities are reacting to it by retreating into &#8220;informatics&#8221; and psychology.</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 14:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had heard that undergrad enrollment for physics at Sussex is currently pretty (alarmingly) low. Is that the case, does anyone know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had heard that undergrad enrollment for physics at Sussex is currently pretty (alarmingly) low. Is that the case, does anyone know?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 12:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely put Anne. I was intending to add a comment clarifying my understanding of the extremely high quality of the parts of the Sussex physics department that I know. Whenever I travel to England, Sussex is one of the places I immediately think of being sure to visit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely put Anne. I was intending to add a comment clarifying my understanding of the extremely high quality of the parts of the Sussex physics department that I know. Whenever I travel to England, Sussex is one of the places I immediately think of being sure to visit.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 12:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As another ex-Sussex (PhD) student I&#039;d like to comment on some of the comments....

 Sussex has a rather odd Schools system where departments are grouped together in schools. Over the last decade or so physics has moved from MAPS (Mathematical and Physical Sciences) to CPES (Chemistry, Physics and Environmental Science) and more recently to SciTech (Science and Technology) [hopefully I&#039;ve remembered the acronyms correctly]. From the point of view of students, in the sciences at least, these groupings have no real practical consequences. I&#039;m sure that there are administrative and financial consequences (which as a student I was blissfully unaware of....), but it&#039;s simply not true to say that &quot;The physics department was effectively shut a few years ago&quot;.

 The loss of staff from the particle theory group over the last year or so is clearly a bad thing for the physics department and if the group were to die something very special would be lost. However, as far as I&#039;m aware at least, the outcome is far from certain.

The science departments at Sussex are, along with those at many other UK universities, experiencing tough times.  There are some excellent physicists at Sussex doing excellent science. Spreading mis-information and presenting speculation as fact is not going improve their position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As another ex-Sussex (PhD) student I&#8217;d like to comment on some of the comments&#8230;.</p>
<p> Sussex has a rather odd Schools system where departments are grouped together in schools. Over the last decade or so physics has moved from MAPS (Mathematical and Physical Sciences) to CPES (Chemistry, Physics and Environmental Science) and more recently to SciTech (Science and Technology) [hopefully I've remembered the acronyms correctly]. From the point of view of students, in the sciences at least, these groupings have no real practical consequences. I&#8217;m sure that there are administrative and financial consequences (which as a student I was blissfully unaware of&#8230;.), but it&#8217;s simply not true to say that &#8220;The physics department was effectively shut a few years ago&#8221;.</p>
<p> The loss of staff from the particle theory group over the last year or so is clearly a bad thing for the physics department and if the group were to die something very special would be lost. However, as far as I&#8217;m aware at least, the outcome is far from certain.</p>
<p>The science departments at Sussex are, along with those at many other UK universities, experiencing tough times.  There are some excellent physicists at Sussex doing excellent science. Spreading mis-information and presenting speculation as fact is not going improve their position.</p>
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		<title>By: Pier Stefano Corasaniti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pier Stefano Corasaniti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 22:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mark,
thanks for pointing out the news, it is great that at least Chemistry has been saved,
it would have been even greater if they could have saved the theoretical physics group...instead of triggering the diaspora of its faculties. I got my PhD at Sussex, it was a fantastic experience, the close interaction between the astronomy centre and the particle theory one created a really ideal environment for cosmology. I still remember with nostalgy the positive, friendly, joyful, creative atmosphere of the group. Now it is only a memory of the past.
Hope things will turn for better down there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark,<br />
thanks for pointing out the news, it is great that at least Chemistry has been saved,<br />
it would have been even greater if they could have saved the theoretical physics group&#8230;instead of triggering the diaspora of its faculties. I got my PhD at Sussex, it was a fantastic experience, the close interaction between the astronomy centre and the particle theory one created a really ideal environment for cosmology. I still remember with nostalgy the positive, friendly, joyful, creative atmosphere of the group. Now it is only a memory of the past.<br />
Hope things will turn for better down there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steinn Sigurdsson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/05/15/sussex-chemistry-saved/comment-page-1/#comment-16094</link>
		<dc:creator>Steinn Sigurdsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 19:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did my BSc at Sussex (&quot;Q&quot;).
The physics department was effectively shut a few years ago when the School for Mathematics and Physical Sciences (MAPS) was abolished, and physics, math and astro were moved into Engineering - now renamed &quot;School of Science and Technology&quot;.

Similarly chemistry&#039;s path to demise came when the old MOLS school was shut down and the chemistry department moved into Life Sciences.

The physics department had 33 faculty - 5 professors, 13 readers and 15 lecturers. Astronomy had 5 faculty, for a total of 38 tenure lines.
Current department has a total of 21 physics and astronomy tenure track people.
8 of which are in astronomy.

There are 12 faculty in mathematics now, there used to be 27 tenure track people.

Sussex used to be one of the few UK universities that offered a double honours Mathematical Physics BSc (MPhys now I guess).  They apparently no longer do so. Nor is Mathematics with &quot;minor&quot; in Physics offered.

Bastards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did my BSc at Sussex (&#8220;Q&#8221;).<br />
The physics department was effectively shut a few years ago when the School for Mathematics and Physical Sciences (MAPS) was abolished, and physics, math and astro were moved into Engineering &#8211; now renamed &#8220;School of Science and Technology&#8221;.</p>
<p>Similarly chemistry&#8217;s path to demise came when the old MOLS school was shut down and the chemistry department moved into Life Sciences.</p>
<p>The physics department had 33 faculty &#8211; 5 professors, 13 readers and 15 lecturers. Astronomy had 5 faculty, for a total of 38 tenure lines.<br />
Current department has a total of 21 physics and astronomy tenure track people.<br />
8 of which are in astronomy.</p>
<p>There are 12 faculty in mathematics now, there used to be 27 tenure track people.</p>
<p>Sussex used to be one of the few UK universities that offered a double honours Mathematical Physics BSc (MPhys now I guess).  They apparently no longer do so. Nor is Mathematics with &#8220;minor&#8221; in Physics offered.</p>
<p>Bastards.</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 18:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thatcher&#039;s government had a part to play in the ongoing sabotage of the British education system, although Blair&#039;s lot have pulled ahead, I think.

Although Sussex&#039;s department has been saved (it seems), falling numbers enrolling for those courses across the country are inevitably going to mean departments merging or shutting, if the educating aspect of the Department is dominant (of course, if it&#039;s just about the research bucks, that&#039;s different, but I&#039;m not sure it works that way at UK universities so much). Shutting or merging &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; departments isn&#039;t even a bad decision, although the matter of which ones suffer the knife is obviously a difficult one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thatcher&#8217;s government had a part to play in the ongoing sabotage of the British education system, although Blair&#8217;s lot have pulled ahead, I think.</p>
<p>Although Sussex&#8217;s department has been saved (it seems), falling numbers enrolling for those courses across the country are inevitably going to mean departments merging or shutting, if the educating aspect of the Department is dominant (of course, if it&#8217;s just about the research bucks, that&#8217;s different, but I&#8217;m not sure it works that way at UK universities so much). Shutting or merging <i>some</i> departments isn&#8217;t even a bad decision, although the matter of which ones suffer the knife is obviously a difficult one.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 15:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we blame Thatcher for this?</description>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 14:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know the details of these cases so can&#039;t comment. However, as you can see, when the Sussex case was looked at by a qualified panel and not an individual administrator, it was seen to be a poor decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know the details of these cases so can&#8217;t comment. However, as you can see, when the Sussex case was looked at by a qualified panel and not an individual administrator, it was seen to be a poor decision.</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 13:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Sussex, is their physics department safe?

On the issue of physics at A Level, I have some opinions about that, from my own experience:

The IOP physics A-Level course is pretty good (given the need to fit the absurd changes to the A/AS level qualifications, which lessened the value of each individual A Level) but, like Nuffield before it, has to struggle against falling numbers oh physics A Level students, hack exams like those of EDEXEL that promise better grades for less teacher expertise (because there really aren&#039;t close to enough physics teachers in the UK) and the government&#039;s changing moods. The lack of good physics teachers is, I think, the biggest problem of all.

Making physics compulsory in schools up to the age of 16 was only ever going to have considerable benefit if there were enough physics teachers. Many students learn their compulsory physics to GCSE from biologists or chemists who, while hardworking and well-meaning, don&#039;t always have sufficient expertise to create very good lessons in physics. However, why on earth would anyone want to teach physics at UK schools? The alleged solidarity of the teaching profession means that no serious &#039;supply versus demand&#039; decisions can be made on teacher&#039;s salaries; you can get a couple of inducement points to attract a physicist but, really, it&#039;s not enough. No one can bear the idea of physics teachers earning 50-100% more than teachers of other disciplines where there is more competition amongst candidates (rather than competition amongst schools, which is the current situation when it comes to physics hires). However, the difference in &#039;A&#039; Level take-up of physics achieved by having a very good teacher who really knows their physics is huge. The current policy of compulsory physics does mean that we do get a lot of kids at least familiar with physical ideas, who can wire a circuit or a plug, who can understand basic issues, but if we want a lot more physicists, we need better teachers and that means paying physics teachers a lot more for as long as there aren&#039;t enough of them entering the profession. If that upsets English teachers and PE teachers and so on, they can weep their salty tears somewhere else, because there&#039;s plenty of others to replace them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Sussex, is their physics department safe?</p>
<p>On the issue of physics at A Level, I have some opinions about that, from my own experience:</p>
<p>The IOP physics A-Level course is pretty good (given the need to fit the absurd changes to the A/AS level qualifications, which lessened the value of each individual A Level) but, like Nuffield before it, has to struggle against falling numbers oh physics A Level students, hack exams like those of EDEXEL that promise better grades for less teacher expertise (because there really aren&#8217;t close to enough physics teachers in the UK) and the government&#8217;s changing moods. The lack of good physics teachers is, I think, the biggest problem of all.</p>
<p>Making physics compulsory in schools up to the age of 16 was only ever going to have considerable benefit if there were enough physics teachers. Many students learn their compulsory physics to GCSE from biologists or chemists who, while hardworking and well-meaning, don&#8217;t always have sufficient expertise to create very good lessons in physics. However, why on earth would anyone want to teach physics at UK schools? The alleged solidarity of the teaching profession means that no serious &#8216;supply versus demand&#8217; decisions can be made on teacher&#8217;s salaries; you can get a couple of inducement points to attract a physicist but, really, it&#8217;s not enough. No one can bear the idea of physics teachers earning 50-100% more than teachers of other disciplines where there is more competition amongst candidates (rather than competition amongst schools, which is the current situation when it comes to physics hires). However, the difference in &#8216;A&#8217; Level take-up of physics achieved by having a very good teacher who really knows their physics is huge. The current policy of compulsory physics does mean that we do get a lot of kids at least familiar with physical ideas, who can wire a circuit or a plug, who can understand basic issues, but if we want a lot more physicists, we need better teachers and that means paying physics teachers a lot more for as long as there aren&#8217;t enough of them entering the profession. If that upsets English teachers and PE teachers and so on, they can weep their salty tears somewhere else, because there&#8217;s plenty of others to replace them.</p>
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		<title>By: Science</title>
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		<dc:creator>Science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 12:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops the latest report on the decline is Aug 2005: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4162230.stm

&quot;Entries in physics had decreased by 35.2% since 1991, while those in maths and chemistry had fallen by 21.5% and 12.6%, he added.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops the latest report on the decline is Aug 2005: <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4162230.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4162230.stm</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Entries in physics had decreased by 35.2% since 1991, while those in maths and chemistry had fallen by 21.5% and 12.6%, he added.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Science</title>
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		<dc:creator>Science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 12:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, the fall in pre-university physics students in the UK is 4% per year now, not 2%.  See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/3580742.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, the fall in pre-university physics students in the UK is 4% per year now, not 2%.  See <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/3580742.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/3580742.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Science</title>
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		<dc:creator>Science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 12:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, there are lots of universities without major departments in major sciences.  My nearest university, Essex, had its physics department closed down and now only teaches post-graduate physics degrees within the department of electronics systems engineering: http://www2.essex.ac.uk/physics/

Hull University last year closed its maths department &quot;because of falling interest among students.&quot; - http://education.guardian.co.uk/universitiesincrisis/story/0,,1411320,00.html

Also, Exeter university closed its &quot;loss-making&quot; chemistry department last year, losing 130 staff and making chemistry becoming a branch of the bioscience department: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4105961.stm see also http://www.exeter.ac.uk/chemweb/

Each year for the last decade, 2 % fewer students have taken physics A-level, so it isn&#039;t surprising that there is a major issue.  The key sciences chemistry, physics and maths are all becoming less popular in the UK.  Electronics and biosciences are taking up the slack.  Students are effectively voting with their UCAS
forms and sacking professors of pure core science subjects, at least in the provincial universities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, there are lots of universities without major departments in major sciences.  My nearest university, Essex, had its physics department closed down and now only teaches post-graduate physics degrees within the department of electronics systems engineering: <a href="http://www2.essex.ac.uk/physics/" rel="nofollow">http://www2.essex.ac.uk/physics/</a></p>
<p>Hull University last year closed its maths department &#8220;because of falling interest among students.&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://education.guardian.co.uk/universitiesincrisis/story/0,,1411320,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://education.guardian.co.uk/universitiesincrisis/story/0,,1411320,00.html</a></p>
<p>Also, Exeter university closed its &#8220;loss-making&#8221; chemistry department last year, losing 130 staff and making chemistry becoming a branch of the bioscience department: <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4105961.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4105961.stm</a> see also <a href="http://www.exeter.ac.uk/chemweb/" rel="nofollow">http://www.exeter.ac.uk/chemweb/</a></p>
<p>Each year for the last decade, 2 % fewer students have taken physics A-level, so it isn&#8217;t surprising that there is a major issue.  The key sciences chemistry, physics and maths are all becoming less popular in the UK.  Electronics and biosciences are taking up the slack.  Students are effectively voting with their UCAS<br />
forms and sacking professors of pure core science subjects, at least in the provincial universities.</p>
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		<title>By: PK</title>
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		<dc:creator>PK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 11:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excelent news for Sussex, and to some extent for all science departments in the UK given the strong language of the Commons committee.

However, the war is not won until funding for departments is decoupled from student numbers. Perhaps creating hybrid government labs/universities is a solution? Of course, the chance of this is zero in the current UK (and European) climate of privatising everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excelent news for Sussex, and to some extent for all science departments in the UK given the strong language of the Commons committee.</p>
<p>However, the war is not won until funding for departments is decoupled from student numbers. Perhaps creating hybrid government labs/universities is a solution? Of course, the chance of this is zero in the current UK (and European) climate of privatising everything.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 05:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What isn&#039;t in the news is the way the good particle theory group (which had a significant cosmology component) there has been allowed to break up. A few years ago there were several faculty, soon there will be none as people have left and not been replaced. This method may be quieter, but the end result is the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What isn&#8217;t in the news is the way the good particle theory group (which had a significant cosmology component) there has been allowed to break up. A few years ago there were several faculty, soon there will be none as people have left and not been replaced. This method may be quieter, but the end result is the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 03:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have likewise enjoyed the hospitality of the Sussex group -- and was similarly floored with the news that the powers that be there thought they could mange without a chemistry department.

As it happens, I was recently talking to someone who had a faculty offer from Sussex (not in physics) and my immediate reaction was &quot;You would feel safe at a place willing to do *that* to its chemistry department? What if your department is  up for the chop five years from now?&quot;

Sadly, it looks as though they have won the fight, but this brings no credit to the institution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have likewise enjoyed the hospitality of the Sussex group &#8212; and was similarly floored with the news that the powers that be there thought they could mange without a chemistry department.</p>
<p>As it happens, I was recently talking to someone who had a faculty offer from Sussex (not in physics) and my immediate reaction was &#8220;You would feel safe at a place willing to do *that* to its chemistry department? What if your department is  up for the chop five years from now?&#8221;</p>
<p>Sadly, it looks as though they have won the fight, but this brings no credit to the institution.</p>
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