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		<title>By: Spilt Beans Coffee - The Latest News, Information, &#38; Blogs on Coffee: &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Exhibit reflects on the everyday future (Colony Courier-Leader)</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/06/05/physics-in-paradise/comment-page-1/#comment-17162</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Physics in ParadiseSometimes life is rough and you just gotta struggle through it. A couple days ago, I returned from a 10 day trip to Hawaii. (Did I mention the life is rough part?) The reason for the trip was, of course, physics! But this time, and it&#8217;s been too long of a . [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Physics in ParadiseSometimes life is rough and you just gotta struggle through it. A couple days ago, I returned from a 10 day trip to Hawaii. (Did I mention the life is rough part?) The reason for the trip was, of course, physics! But this time, and it&#8217;s been too long of a . [...]</p>
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		<title>By: chimpanzee</title>
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		<dc:creator>chimpanzee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 06:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;doing work in nice places&quot;

When I was at JPL, I was on a project (Reagan&#039;s SDI nonsense) involving a 40&quot; telescope used to monitor Russian satellites.  People would stay at condos on Maui (I never did, since I got blackballed by the jerkoffs).  It was a big topic of discussion by other group members, who were envious of our &quot;work/play&quot; opportunity.  Sunrise from Mt. Haleakala was supposed to be a hot thing to do.

BTW, THAT telescope ended up in Dr. Eleanor Helin&#039;s hands, to do Asteroid hunting/detection (?)  I saw a science show which showed some that project, which was a FLAT-OUT joke

You can see re-runs of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hawaii Five-O&lt;/a&gt; on local LA KDOC channel 56.  It&#039;s one of my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rocketroberts.com/hawaii/hawaiifi.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;favorite series&lt;/a&gt;, since it&#039;s a PERFECT metaphor for Scientific Research:

&quot;Sometimes, you have to do some digging on the beach..to find the answers?&quot;
-- McGarrett

[ this is what Dr. Charles Townsend/Physics Nobelist said on &quot;From Student to Scientist&quot;: &quot;You turn over one stone, then another researcher turns over other stones..&amp; so on&quot; ]

- &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rocketroberts.com/hawaii/sounds/mcgarret.wav&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;McGarrett&lt;/a&gt;
PI, Principal Investigator..leads a team of &quot;detectives&quot;
stays in office late, like many research Profs

- Dano, Chin Ho Kelly, Duke, Kono
worker bees (&quot;graduate student slaves&quot;), who do a LOT of legwork interviewing witnesses, checking records, etc.

Science Research involves a LOT of legwork &amp; gathering of data (&quot;Critical Observation&quot;).  The actual conclusions (&quot;Critical Thinking&quot;) is a pretty quick thing.

- they draw up the data on a glass &quot;blackboard&quot; &amp; begin &quot;firing away&quot; various theories on the crime

[ Linus Pauling was asked how he does such good work, &amp; he replied &quot;try a LOT of ideas&quot; (shotgun approach) ]

- then they GET THE BAD GUY (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/sounds/book2cnt.wav&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Book&#039;em Dano, Murder 1..TWO COUNTS!&quot;&lt;/a&gt;..yeah, Baby..&quot;there is Justice in the World&quot;)

equivalent to Science figuring out the answer (which often lead to other questions, &amp; future research topics)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;doing work in nice places&#8221;</p>
<p>When I was at JPL, I was on a project (Reagan&#8217;s SDI nonsense) involving a 40&#8243; telescope used to monitor Russian satellites.  People would stay at condos on Maui (I never did, since I got blackballed by the jerkoffs).  It was a big topic of discussion by other group members, who were envious of our &#8220;work/play&#8221; opportunity.  Sunrise from Mt. Haleakala was supposed to be a hot thing to do.</p>
<p>BTW, THAT telescope ended up in Dr. Eleanor Helin&#8217;s hands, to do Asteroid hunting/detection (?)  I saw a science show which showed some that project, which was a FLAT-OUT joke</p>
<p>You can see re-runs of <a href="http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/" rel="nofollow">Hawaii Five-O</a> on local LA KDOC channel 56.  It&#8217;s one of my <a href="http://www.rocketroberts.com/hawaii/hawaiifi.htm" rel="nofollow">favorite series</a>, since it&#8217;s a PERFECT metaphor for Scientific Research:</p>
<p>&#8220;Sometimes, you have to do some digging on the beach..to find the answers?&#8221;<br />
&#8211; McGarrett</p>
<p>[ this is what Dr. Charles Townsend/Physics Nobelist said on "From Student to Scientist": "You turn over one stone, then another researcher turns over other stones..&amp; so on" ]</p>
<p>- <a href="http://www.rocketroberts.com/hawaii/sounds/mcgarret.wav" rel="nofollow">McGarrett</a><br />
PI, Principal Investigator..leads a team of &#8220;detectives&#8221;<br />
stays in office late, like many research Profs</p>
<p>- Dano, Chin Ho Kelly, Duke, Kono<br />
worker bees (&#8221;graduate student slaves&#8221;), who do a LOT of legwork interviewing witnesses, checking records, etc.</p>
<p>Science Research involves a LOT of legwork &amp; gathering of data (&#8221;Critical Observation&#8221;).  The actual conclusions (&#8221;Critical Thinking&#8221;) is a pretty quick thing.</p>
<p>- they draw up the data on a glass &#8220;blackboard&#8221; &amp; begin &#8220;firing away&#8221; various theories on the crime</p>
<p>[ Linus Pauling was asked how he does such good work, &amp; he replied "try a LOT of ideas" (shotgun approach) ]</p>
<p>- then they GET THE BAD GUY (<a href="http://www.mjq.net/fiveo/sounds/book2cnt.wav" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Book&#8217;em Dano, Murder 1..TWO COUNTS!&#8221;</a>..yeah, Baby..&#8221;there is Justice in the World&#8221;)</p>
<p>equivalent to Science figuring out the answer (which often lead to other questions, &amp; future research topics)</p>
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		<title>By: JoAnne</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 23:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AstroCook:  Indeed, that huge plume of steam you see in the picture is from lava flowing into the ocean.  I went back at night (with camera tripod!) to hopefully catch a glimpse of an orange glow, but flow was too far away to get a good view.  I was disappointed, but getting closer would have involved a mile hike on unchartered lava in the dark.  DOE safety regulations would have been maximally violated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AstroCook:  Indeed, that huge plume of steam you see in the picture is from lava flowing into the ocean.  I went back at night (with camera tripod!) to hopefully catch a glimpse of an orange glow, but flow was too far away to get a good view.  I was disappointed, but getting closer would have involved a mile hike on unchartered lava in the dark.  DOE safety regulations would have been maximally violated!</p>
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		<title>By: AstroCook</title>
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		<dc:creator>AstroCook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 21:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the lava flow reaching the water again?  It&#039;s been awhile since I was there on the Big Island, but it looks like there is some steam near the water in one of your pictures.

I also am very excited to hear about your new paper!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the lava flow reaching the water again?  It&#8217;s been awhile since I was there on the Big Island, but it looks like there is some steam near the water in one of your pictures.</p>
<p>I also am very excited to hear about your new paper!!</p>
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		<title>By: Not Even Wrong &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Way Too Much Stuff</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/06/05/physics-in-paradise/comment-page-1/#comment-17159</link>
		<dc:creator>Not Even Wrong &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Way Too Much Stuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 01:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Read about the tough summer life of theoretical physicists in Paul Cook&#8217;s report from Cargese (which reminded me of when I went there as a grad student), and JoAnne Hewett&#8217;s report from Hawaii (which reminded me of a very pleasant vacation I spent on the Big Island). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Read about the tough summer life of theoretical physicists in Paul Cook&#8217;s report from Cargese (which reminded me of when I went there as a grad student), and JoAnne Hewett&#8217;s report from Hawaii (which reminded me of a very pleasant vacation I spent on the Big Island). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JoAnne</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 00:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, the aura of mystery must be maintained at all times!

Actually, it&#039;s a process which is now finally on the verge of being measured (there are some enticing hints in the data) at heavy flavor factories.  I really shouldn&#039;t say more.....and keep in mind that small hints in a data sample can come and go with ease.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, the aura of mystery must be maintained at all times!</p>
<p>Actually, it&#8217;s a process which is now finally on the verge of being measured (there are some enticing hints in the data) at heavy flavor factories.  I really shouldn&#8217;t say more&#8230;..and keep in mind that small hints in a data sample can come and go with ease.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 00:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, now... don&#039;t be pestering for hints! We all know how these exotic island physicists must keep an air of mystery about them.

p.s. Love the pictures! I&#039;m pretty sure I&#039;ve been on that exact same lava-blocked road. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, now&#8230; don&#8217;t be pestering for hints! We all know how these exotic island physicists must keep an air of mystery about them.</p>
<p>p.s. Love the pictures! I&#8217;m pretty sure I&#8217;ve been on that exact same lava-blocked road. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dimitri Terryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimitri Terryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

Yes, I was trying to avoid the teaser, but I must confess that I&#039;m intrigued as well...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Yes, I was trying to avoid the teaser, but I must confess that I&#8217;m intrigued as well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 12:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m intrigued by your teaser that the results, experimentally, are especially relevant now...  Can you give us a hint?  Well, if not, please keep working - and let us know when your paper is available publicly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m intrigued by your teaser that the results, experimentally, are especially relevant now&#8230;  Can you give us a hint?  Well, if not, please keep working &#8211; and let us know when your paper is available publicly!</p>
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		<title>By: Amara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 09:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Joanne, I&#039;m entranced by those sea turtles. I was born and grew up in Hawaii; my family lived on a boat in Honolulu for a time too, making my childhoold a little bit unusual (my introduction to the night sky was as a child from the deck of our boat), but for some weird reason I didn&#039;t see sea turtles very often; I saw porpoise and manta rays much more. Last September I had a dust meeting in Kauai and took extra time to go to Molokai and visit a relative I have not seen in 30 years. During that Molokai visit, I bonded with a sea turtle. Well. I don&#039;t know about him/her bonding with me, but we swam together for some 20 minutes, and sea turtles are glorious when they swim. Just like birds, their grace makes one want to sprout a hard shell and some flippers and become one of them.

You went to the &#039;best&#039; island; the Big Island is my favorite!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Joanne, I&#8217;m entranced by those sea turtles. I was born and grew up in Hawaii; my family lived on a boat in Honolulu for a time too, making my childhoold a little bit unusual (my introduction to the night sky was as a child from the deck of our boat), but for some weird reason I didn&#8217;t see sea turtles very often; I saw porpoise and manta rays much more. Last September I had a dust meeting in Kauai and took extra time to go to Molokai and visit a relative I have not seen in 30 years. During that Molokai visit, I bonded with a sea turtle. Well. I don&#8217;t know about him/her bonding with me, but we swam together for some 20 minutes, and sea turtles are glorious when they swim. Just like birds, their grace makes one want to sprout a hard shell and some flippers and become one of them.</p>
<p>You went to the &#8216;best&#8217; island; the Big Island is my favorite!</p>
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