Comments on: Café Scientifique: Season Two http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/06/cafe-scientifique-season-two/ Random samplings from a universe of ideas. Sun, 05 Jul 2009 07:28:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: A Recommendation | Cosmic Variance http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/06/cafe-scientifique-season-two/#comment-20115 A Recommendation | Cosmic Variance Fri, 08 Sep 2006 04:10:05 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/06/cafe-scientifique-season-two/#comment-20115 [...] Sean « Café Scientifique: Season Two      [...] […] Sean « Café Scientifique: Season Two      […]

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By: Allyson http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/06/cafe-scientifique-season-two/#comment-20112 Allyson Fri, 08 Sep 2006 01:42:01 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/06/cafe-scientifique-season-two/#comment-20112 <blockquote>Scott provided an impressive array of different techniques and measurements that solidly place the Earth's age around 4.5 billion years. This would be more than enough to convince any reasonable person, but, sadly, I suspect that anyone who is truly a young Earth creationist is well past the point where reasoned argument and evidence will have an effect.</blockquote> Oooooh, interesting. I've had this discussion but get a bit confused and tongue-tied about the science/measurements. Can you expand a bit on this? I'm also sometimes struck speechless by the "this watch is complex, it was obviously created by an intelligent designer, ergo, we are complex and obviously made from a magical lump o' clay" weirdness. Anyone know where that came from? How do people here respond (after the speechless wears off)?

Scott provided an impressive array of different techniques and measurements that solidly place the Earth’s age around 4.5 billion years. This would be more than enough to convince any reasonable person, but, sadly, I suspect that anyone who is truly a young Earth creationist is well past the point where reasoned argument and evidence will have an effect.

Oooooh, interesting. I’ve had this discussion but get a bit confused and tongue-tied about the science/measurements. Can you expand a bit on this? I’m also sometimes struck speechless by the “this watch is complex, it was obviously created by an intelligent designer, ergo, we are complex and obviously made from a magical lump o’ clay” weirdness. Anyone know where that came from? How do people here respond (after the speechless wears off)?

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By: Armchair Anarchist http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/06/cafe-scientifique-season-two/#comment-20114 Armchair Anarchist Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:59:56 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/06/cafe-scientifique-season-two/#comment-20114 Excellent news...my local university here in Portsmouth (UK) has been running Cafe Scientifiques since spring this year, and they're a great idea - as well as a great night out, and a good source of material for blogging...I managed to snare an interview with Igor Aleksander buy asking him nicely after his appearance. The new season for us starts later this month - I can't wait! It's a shame that few people who aren't already into science turn up, but that's only to be expected, I guess. Good luck with future events! Excellent news…my local university here in Portsmouth (UK) has been running Cafe Scientifiques since spring this year, and they’re a great idea - as well as a great night out, and a good source of material for blogging…I managed to snare an interview with Igor Aleksander buy asking him nicely after his appearance.

The new season for us starts later this month - I can’t wait! It’s a shame that few people who aren’t already into science turn up, but that’s only to be expected, I guess. Good luck with future events!

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By: Amara http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/06/cafe-scientifique-season-two/#comment-20116 Amara Thu, 07 Sep 2006 18:31:24 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/06/cafe-scientifique-season-two/#comment-20116 Very impressive to cover those particular topics in popular science format in only 20 minutes! Very impressive to cover those particular topics in popular science format in only 20 minutes!

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By: Subhendra http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/06/cafe-scientifique-season-two/#comment-20117 Subhendra Thu, 07 Sep 2006 16:41:54 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/06/cafe-scientifique-season-two/#comment-20117 The subject is fascinating, is there a transcript of the talk online or is there a review article by Scott which covers the same ground. One thing you did not mention in your post is that geo-neutrinos, seen at Kamland , originate in the decay of Thorium and Uranium in the earths mantle and crust, and can give us some useful information about the formation of earth. The subject is fascinating, is there a transcript of the talk online or is there a review
article by Scott which covers the same ground. One thing you did not mention in your post is that geo-neutrinos, seen at Kamland , originate in the decay of Thorium and Uranium in the earths mantle and crust, and can give us some useful information about the formation of earth.

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By: Hal Porter http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/06/cafe-scientifique-season-two/#comment-20118 Hal Porter Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:29:22 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/06/cafe-scientifique-season-two/#comment-20118 These sound so wonderful. It's a shame that I live 300 miles away in NYC Wonderful work you're doing. In spirit I think it is extending the work of the eminent Victorian scientists who were so concerned (unlike Newton, etc) to communicate their work to the layperson. With specialization, a lay audience now includes other scientists. I remember about 10 years ago giving a lift to a senior scientist (now in a very powerful administrative position at a senior graduate center) who rather bashfully admitted thinking about getting a Scientific American subscription in order to find out what was happening in the rest of the sciences. I respect the admission. I have been a science writer, so there is no shame approaching any subject signaling ignorance in advance. Practicing scientists are in a more conflicted situation. 100-150 years ago I don't think this would have been the case. While it is true that what we know now and are learning is a much greater mass of material than in 1880, the means of cross communication and formal and informal means of learning are now much more circumscribed. I am often shocked that my general knowledge is sometimes deeper in aspects of the sciences outside a scientist's field of specialization than is the scientist's. The barriers are coming down a little bit through efforts such as yours. These sound so wonderful. It’s a shame that I live 300 miles away in NYC

Wonderful work you’re doing. In spirit I think it is extending the work of the eminent Victorian scientists who were so concerned (unlike Newton, etc) to communicate their work to the layperson. With specialization, a lay audience now includes other scientists.

I remember about 10 years ago giving a lift to a senior scientist (now in a very powerful administrative position at a senior graduate center) who rather bashfully admitted thinking about getting a Scientific American subscription in order to find out what was happening in the rest of the sciences.

I respect the admission. I have been a science writer, so there is no shame approaching any subject signaling ignorance in advance. Practicing scientists are in a more conflicted situation. 100-150 years ago I don’t think this would have been the case. While it is true that what we know now and are learning is a much greater mass of material than in 1880, the means of cross communication and formal and informal means of learning are now much more circumscribed. I am often shocked that my general knowledge is sometimes deeper in aspects of the sciences outside a scientist’s field of specialization than is the scientist’s.

The barriers are coming down a little bit through efforts such as yours.

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By: greg http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/06/cafe-scientifique-season-two/#comment-20113 greg Thu, 07 Sep 2006 08:21:19 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/06/cafe-scientifique-season-two/#comment-20113 When I'm confronted Earth creationists, I avoid the debate because it is rarely constructive. I'm also shocked by the number of people who are suprised I am a christian, and yet work on evolutionary Biology. This view that if you belive in God you must cast science aside is a recent trend I really don't like. When I’m confronted Earth creationists, I avoid the debate because it is rarely constructive. I’m also shocked by the number of people who are suprised I am a christian, and yet work on evolutionary Biology. This view that if you belive in God you must cast science aside is a recent trend I really don’t like.

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By: danvk http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/06/cafe-scientifique-season-two/#comment-20119 danvk Thu, 07 Sep 2006 02:53:02 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/06/cafe-scientifique-season-two/#comment-20119 Sounds very interesting. Is there a transcript or video available? Sounds very interesting. Is there a transcript or video available?

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By: Spatulated http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/06/cafe-scientifique-season-two/#comment-20120 Spatulated Thu, 07 Sep 2006 00:26:52 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/06/cafe-scientifique-season-two/#comment-20120 This sounds like alot of fun. I am new to new york and in the rochester area (RIT), is there a way (bus? train? crazy people with cars) for me to get down to syracuse? This sounds like alot of fun. I am new to new york and in the rochester area (RIT), is there a way (bus? train? crazy people with cars) for me to get down to syracuse?

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