Comments on: Where does the time go? http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/08/where-does-the-time-go/ Random samplings from a universe of ideas. Mon, 09 Nov 2009 05:46:49 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Quasar9 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/08/where-does-the-time-go/comment-page-1/#comment-20126 Quasar9 Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:32:34 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/08/where-does-the-time-go/#comment-20126 Hi JoAnne, on big bang and gamma ray shadow did you get to read this: <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/09/060905104549.htm" rel="nofollow">Science Daily 5th Sep 2005</a> Hi JoAnne,
on big bang and gamma ray shadow
did you get to read this:
Science Daily 5th Sep 2005

]]> By: Quasar9 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/08/where-does-the-time-go/comment-page-1/#comment-20127 Quasar9 Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:15:12 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/08/where-does-the-time-go/#comment-20127 And as much as I hate to admit it, humans and mortals love drama, tragedy, competition, sport, wars ... except they all hope to be on the winning side, but in any competition or battle there have to be winners and losers, and in any war both sides are LOSERS. However the USAF, the US Military & the Pentagon, is an enterprise or corporation just like NASA & SLAC, with vested interests: monthly wages, bills, career, promotion, medals, recognition & retirement or pensions. The Military strategy to take the war to the enemy is logical. Now you can argue what have you to fear from a bunch of horse riding bandits in afghanistan, if the worse they can do is fly a plane or two into the twin towers, something not likely to happen again, mainly because the twin towers are no longer there. You can argue that the war on Iraq was about Oil & Greed, greed for power and lust for power. You can argue that the war on Iraq was a war by proxy on behalf of the state with no name. But the military fight wars, weapons are created to be used or dumped whether on Iraq or the Moon. Now, that we've aired our differences, or different ovbserver points of view (perspectives) on human events, perhaps we can discuss our shared interests and find common on cosmic events, other than just the ground or earth we are walking on and trying to grow prize tomatoes in. What do you want your contribution to '21st C society' or humanity in spacecitime to be. To have discovered, to have revealed, to have unveiled ... with what applications, benefits - other than the making you and I happy or wealthy or famous or reknowned??? . And as much as I hate to admit it, humans and mortals love drama, tragedy, competition, sport, wars …
except they all hope to be on the winning side, but in any competition or battle there have to be winners and losers, and in any war both sides are LOSERS.
However the USAF, the US Military & the Pentagon, is an enterprise or corporation just like NASA & SLAC, with vested interests: monthly wages, bills, career, promotion, medals, recognition & retirement or pensions.
The Military strategy to take the war to the enemy is logical. Now you can argue what have you to fear from a bunch of horse riding bandits in afghanistan, if the worse they can do is fly a plane or two into the twin towers, something not likely to happen again, mainly because the twin towers are no longer there. You can argue that the war on Iraq was about Oil & Greed, greed for power and lust for power. You can argue that the war on Iraq was a war by proxy on behalf of the state with no name. But the military fight wars, weapons are created to be used or dumped whether on Iraq or the Moon.

Now, that we’ve aired our differences, or different ovbserver points of view (perspectives) on human events, perhaps we can discuss our shared interests and find common on cosmic events, other than just the ground or earth we are walking on and trying to grow prize tomatoes in.

What do you want your contribution to ’21st C society’ or humanity in spacecitime to be. To have discovered, to have revealed, to have unveiled …
with what applications, benefits – other than the making you and I happy or wealthy or famous or reknowned???
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]]> By: Quasar9 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/08/where-does-the-time-go/comment-page-1/#comment-20128 Quasar9 Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:00:46 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/08/where-does-the-time-go/#comment-20128 Hi JoAnne, It is easier to find what people disagree on than to hold onto what they agree on (or have in common) other than jewishness, whiteness, americaness... <b>So take God or whichever concept of the Prime Mover out of the equation.</b> What caused the spontaneous bigbang, where's the great big accelerator or collider in the sky, what 'created' it. That some people call the prime mover or cause above causes God, and then embue it with anthropomorphic qualities, is not so unreasonable or illogical. Is there any other animal on earth, or the universe asking themselves the origin of the universe (and life)? The fact that someone believes in A God, does not make them a good (righteous or even lefteous) person, nor does the fact that someone does not believe in A God or Prime Mover make them right (or good) or leftist. You can be a fascist atheist. Most Roman Emperor's thought they were god, and most States with nuclear weapons think they are gods, the more missiles the bigger gods they think they are. But I ask what does a GOD need nuclear weapons, or any weapons or armies for??? unless of course he is a false perishable god with feet of clay that can be brought tumbling down. Hi JoAnne,
It is easier to find what people disagree on than to hold onto what they agree on (or have in common) other than jewishness, whiteness, americaness…
So take God or whichever concept of the Prime Mover out of the equation.
What caused the spontaneous bigbang, where’s the great big accelerator or collider in the sky, what ‘created’ it. That some people call the prime mover or cause above causes God, and then embue it with anthropomorphic qualities, is not so unreasonable or illogical.
Is there any other animal on earth, or the universe asking themselves the origin of the universe (and life)?

The fact that someone believes in A God, does not make them a good (righteous or even lefteous) person, nor does the fact that someone does not believe in A God or Prime Mover make them right (or good) or leftist.

You can be a fascist atheist. Most Roman Emperor’s thought they were god, and most States with nuclear weapons think they are gods, the more missiles the bigger gods they think they are. But I ask what does a GOD need nuclear weapons, or any weapons or armies for??? unless of course he is a false perishable god with feet of clay that can be brought tumbling down.

]]> By: JoAnne http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/08/where-does-the-time-go/comment-page-1/#comment-20129 JoAnne Mon, 11 Sep 2006 06:19:54 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/08/where-does-the-time-go/#comment-20129 Hmmm - I no longer think of global warming as a partisan, left vs right, issue. And neither do several prominent Republicans. The California programs and resulting legsilation was sponsored by our very Republican governator Arnold Schwarzenegger. The day the bills were signed, I received mail from the honarable Republican Senator John McCain. He was urging me (and goodness knows how many other millions of people) to support the Environmental Defense programs to fight global warming. Our Republican President, of course, does not wish to take action on this issue. But then again, he thinks we're God's creation and that the Iraq war was justified to fight terror... Hmmm – I no longer think of global warming as a partisan, left vs right, issue. And neither do several prominent Republicans. The California programs and resulting legsilation was sponsored by our very Republican governator Arnold Schwarzenegger. The day the bills were signed, I received mail from the honarable Republican Senator John McCain. He was urging me (and goodness knows how many other millions of people) to support the Environmental Defense programs to fight global warming. Our Republican President, of course, does not wish to take action on this issue. But then again, he thinks we’re God’s creation and that the Iraq war was justified to fight terror…

]]> By: Dan http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/08/where-does-the-time-go/comment-page-1/#comment-20130 Dan Sun, 10 Sep 2006 02:00:35 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/08/where-does-the-time-go/#comment-20130 Appallling that you would consider Obrador a gore type candidate. He has openly autoproclaimed himself as a modern Gandhi, and his accusations on electoral fraud are recognized only by his most hardcore followers. Moreover, mexican politics cannot be simplified as a left vs. right thing. If you are an american democrat there are not many reasons you should support Obrador, certainly not now when he is considering self-proclaiming himsef the new president despite of the overwhelming evidence against him. As for civil war...well, it's kindda like if Ross Perot would try to conquer USA. Sure he has some followers, but people is not crazy enough to follow him to those extremes. Appallling that you would consider Obrador a gore type candidate. He has openly autoproclaimed himself as a modern Gandhi, and his accusations on electoral fraud are recognized only by his most hardcore followers. Moreover, mexican politics cannot be simplified as a left vs. right thing. If you are an american democrat there are not many reasons you should support Obrador, certainly not now when he is considering self-proclaiming himsef the new president despite of the overwhelming evidence against him.

As for civil war…well, it’s kindda like if Ross Perot would try to conquer USA. Sure he has some followers, but people is not crazy enough to follow him to those extremes.

]]> By: Count Iblis http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/08/where-does-the-time-go/comment-page-1/#comment-20131 Count Iblis Sat, 09 Sep 2006 21:29:22 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/08/where-does-the-time-go/#comment-20131 <blockquote>Where does the time go?</blockquote> Time translation is just a unitary transformation, right? :)

Where does the time go?

Time translation is just a unitary transformation, right? :)

]]> By: Jim Harrison http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/08/where-does-the-time-go/comment-page-1/#comment-20132 Jim Harrison Sat, 09 Sep 2006 18:56:00 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/08/where-does-the-time-go/#comment-20132 Aside from the fact that everybody, scientist or not, is responsible for what their nation does, you'd think that the scientists would be interested in politics in order to protect their interests. The Bush administration has an impressive anti-science track record. It's not just the enemy of Michael Moore. Aside from the fact that everybody, scientist or not, is responsible for what their nation does, you’d think that the scientists would be interested in politics in order to protect their interests. The Bush administration has an impressive anti-science track record. It’s not just the enemy of Michael Moore.

]]> By: Elliot http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/08/where-does-the-time-go/comment-page-1/#comment-20133 Elliot Sat, 09 Sep 2006 15:42:09 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/08/where-does-the-time-go/#comment-20133 Haelfix, I disagree with your statement that the Iraq war has nothing to do with science. I will concede that physicists opinions are not better than others but the Iraq war consumes significant resources that could be otherwise used for scientific research in a variety of areas. It also, under this administration, encourages government and non-government investment in the tools of war as a by-product. I also wouldn't put Michael Moore and Ann Coulter in the same sentence. He is a thoughtful provacateur. She is a raving lunatic. e. Haelfix,

I disagree with your statement that the Iraq war has nothing to do with science. I will concede that physicists opinions are not better than others but the Iraq war consumes significant resources that could be otherwise used for scientific research in a variety of areas. It also, under this administration, encourages government and non-government investment in the tools of war as a by-product.

I also wouldn’t put Michael Moore and Ann Coulter in the same sentence. He is a thoughtful provacateur. She is a raving lunatic.

e.

]]> By: Haelfix http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/08/where-does-the-time-go/comment-page-1/#comment-20134 Haelfix Sat, 09 Sep 2006 14:43:59 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/08/where-does-the-time-go/#comment-20134 Yes, but the Iraq war has absolutely nothing to do with science, and physicists opinions on the subject are about as relevant as Michael Moore's or Ann Coulters, read no better than the layman. Nor is there any sort of consensus on the subject within a physics department regardless. Yes, but the Iraq war has absolutely nothing to do with science, and physicists opinions on the subject are about as relevant as Michael Moore’s or Ann Coulters, read no better than the layman. Nor is there any sort of consensus on the subject within a physics department regardless.

]]> By: Cynthia http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/08/where-does-the-time-go/comment-page-1/#comment-20135 Cynthia Sat, 09 Sep 2006 12:42:29 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/08/where-does-the-time-go/#comment-20135 It started with a BANG and moved towards a BOUNCE. Then it converged into a SPLAT followed by a SLINKY. Doubtlessly, astro-children are remarkably creative when it comes to playing games with the Universe.;) It started with a BANG and moved towards a BOUNCE. Then it converged into a SPLAT followed by a SLINKY. Doubtlessly, astro-children are remarkably creative when it comes to playing games with the Universe.;)

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