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		<title>By: ZAPH</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZAPH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ATTENTION TO ALL THE MALE NERDS

i go by the name of . but prefer to call myslf Zaphoermiio(zaph)which is my computer
identity.ive been a nerd all my life.I ama south african living on a baron township but i&#039;ve always been facsinated by the wonders of hacking ,science fiction,&amp; I write poetry.iv&#039;e never had a computer growing up so mind my flawed dexterity.Nevr the less i was suppose to be completing my matric this year but circumstances forced me to repeat grd11.See I have a dream ..of studying in america-ucla(film,television&amp;digital imaging)NEXT YEAR!!!! but the question is how.Which made me wonder
if it is by any chance possible to hack into the SA department of educational qualifications,alter hte result renditons(so my name appears in this year&#039;s newspapers),modify my IGETC &amp; EFLTS scores,
get me an ID,passport, visa,greencard,pay my tuition/semester ..etc all htrough hacking?(after all it si hte computer age isn&#039;t it?)&amp; if it is how could u guys help me?Trust me htis is not just another frail
attempt to live hte american dream ,(i know this might sound a bit corny but I have a dream 4 america.(picture Hollywood meets Silicon valley)Beyond all reasonable doubt iam fucken obssesed with computers i even write raps
about htem making out &amp; stuff........heres a sample

Note i anthropomorphize(robots)......&amp; it&#039;s a bit abstract too

iron caste flirt alert transversional hand pressure activate hte fabio receptor sensory inflex
re-con hte hackers on cupids hovercraft star trek andromeda in garter belts target identifiied
as Kismet. &amp; you r let me guess come to bother me daddy McAsshole?Uh no!Oh i&#039;m sorry
it&#039;s just that most of you prototype banal simulacrums just make me gag.Ooh! u&#039;r in excessive
heat Hal loves that in fact he&#039;s intrigued by retiscence coz his state of the art automation&#039;ll
delete that programme.Mr puffy pistons incessant eclipse text message chewed by livid spams
more like the kookie bloom Bard.from carbon based queer model 2 color coded component honcho AI smoulder doppleganger maneframe .splice it with a solar panel binary download sci-fi mechanism data but she said :Access denied.though she looks like the mannequins enticed
by rusty juggernauts just give it a month then she&#039;ll be autographing my name on the make up room&#039;s mirror wit crimson lipstick the type that&#039;ll pour u&#039;r groin wit hot cofee when u insult a mathatter then her jenga crockery are all that&#039;s left of u&#039;r modus vivendi.Like nurse! my dental caps need adjusting !Up yourz!!!there&#039;s a monkey wrench on the jumpseat &amp; if u ring that bell once more I&#039;ll.............solder my defective circuits wit u&#039;r autonomous magic touch.That&#039;s when my space needle jumped up scope googled backwardsUh! glitch dimensia technical difficulties
seem to be sensual, fuelling up the transmitters wit mirth I cork barbarella shitholes wit a loose knut jackhammer coz i&#039;m haggle priced i cum wit a satellite wave that&#039;ll fry hakes in ya fridge
So do u still dream of Genie when I cud be u&#039;r Frankenstein made 4 every Victorian dessicated
mansion&#039;s furtive lab where the forlorn hasty stench of decrepitude haunts the lab but if u&#039;r skirt
blows up im&#039;a flash the fang &amp; whistle Dixie .Watch the warewolves dismount from linear parchs
while the vampire&#039;s bicentennial corpse deploys splinters to slit thraot.then up cranks ya gizmo
,beter reboot ryt now b4 Deedee cookie cuts the wires.the mothership sputters afterdark trailor
park trash doll wouser emitts chips in relation to Area 51. my gosh!!!u &amp; u&#039;r starky comments
don&#039;t u ever like stop? but i mean i grow on people!so does fungi!!!no... wait !!!honey! plz!!Look at u pathetic, u wreak a deficiant virus &amp; im&#039;a bout to bunch ya red button Sooo?any last words b4 u self-detonate?Oh of coarse.. I forgot to sequence ya countdown


hook;i slash space monkeys ,ratchet wheel tongue ,spot wolly wit a a snaggle gum fitted ,dentures spat out,head mounted version, zorb out of control to gargle your molars. Body cast over a bladed face amputated chain saw iron fist vitamins for the snail racing championships

plz reply if possible

have  heart,I know this world is cruel&amp;,hard&amp;that my dream is probably farfetched
but sometimes I hope that one human out there just one, may understand.
(by all means I&#039;m prepared to face whatever pain &amp; consequences my decision would
Have brought unto me(lock me up in a sanctum,train me ,torture me with food &amp; sleep deprivation till I  b&#039;cum the best hacker to my fullest potential)

HOPE!2600

MY FELLOW BRETHREN</description>
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<p>i go by the name of . but prefer to call myslf Zaphoermiio(zaph)which is my computer<br />
identity.ive been a nerd all my life.I ama south african living on a baron township but i&#8217;ve always been facsinated by the wonders of hacking ,science fiction,&amp; I write poetry.iv&#8217;e never had a computer growing up so mind my flawed dexterity.Nevr the less i was suppose to be completing my matric this year but circumstances forced me to repeat grd11.See I have a dream ..of studying in america-ucla(film,television&amp;digital imaging)NEXT YEAR!!!! but the question is how.Which made me wonder<br />
if it is by any chance possible to hack into the SA department of educational qualifications,alter hte result renditons(so my name appears in this year&#8217;s newspapers),modify my IGETC &amp; EFLTS scores,<br />
get me an ID,passport, visa,greencard,pay my tuition/semester ..etc all htrough hacking?(after all it si hte computer age isn&#8217;t it?)&amp; if it is how could u guys help me?Trust me htis is not just another frail<br />
attempt to live hte american dream ,(i know this might sound a bit corny but I have a dream 4 america.(picture Hollywood meets Silicon valley)Beyond all reasonable doubt iam fucken obssesed with computers i even write raps<br />
about htem making out &amp; stuff&#8230;&#8230;..heres a sample</p>
<p>Note i anthropomorphize(robots)&#8230;&#8230;&amp; it&#8217;s a bit abstract too</p>
<p>iron caste flirt alert transversional hand pressure activate hte fabio receptor sensory inflex<br />
re-con hte hackers on cupids hovercraft star trek andromeda in garter belts target identifiied<br />
as Kismet. &amp; you r let me guess come to bother me daddy McAsshole?Uh no!Oh i&#8217;m sorry<br />
it&#8217;s just that most of you prototype banal simulacrums just make me gag.Ooh! u&#8217;r in excessive<br />
heat Hal loves that in fact he&#8217;s intrigued by retiscence coz his state of the art automation&#8217;ll<br />
delete that programme.Mr puffy pistons incessant eclipse text message chewed by livid spams<br />
more like the kookie bloom Bard.from carbon based queer model 2 color coded component honcho AI smoulder doppleganger maneframe .splice it with a solar panel binary download sci-fi mechanism data but she said :Access denied.though she looks like the mannequins enticed<br />
by rusty juggernauts just give it a month then she&#8217;ll be autographing my name on the make up room&#8217;s mirror wit crimson lipstick the type that&#8217;ll pour u&#8217;r groin wit hot cofee when u insult a mathatter then her jenga crockery are all that&#8217;s left of u&#8217;r modus vivendi.Like nurse! my dental caps need adjusting !Up yourz!!!there&#8217;s a monkey wrench on the jumpseat &amp; if u ring that bell once more I&#8217;ll&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.solder my defective circuits wit u&#8217;r autonomous magic touch.That&#8217;s when my space needle jumped up scope googled backwardsUh! glitch dimensia technical difficulties<br />
seem to be sensual, fuelling up the transmitters wit mirth I cork barbarella shitholes wit a loose knut jackhammer coz i&#8217;m haggle priced i cum wit a satellite wave that&#8217;ll fry hakes in ya fridge<br />
So do u still dream of Genie when I cud be u&#8217;r Frankenstein made 4 every Victorian dessicated<br />
mansion&#8217;s furtive lab where the forlorn hasty stench of decrepitude haunts the lab but if u&#8217;r skirt<br />
blows up im&#8217;a flash the fang &amp; whistle Dixie .Watch the warewolves dismount from linear parchs<br />
while the vampire&#8217;s bicentennial corpse deploys splinters to slit thraot.then up cranks ya gizmo<br />
,beter reboot ryt now b4 Deedee cookie cuts the wires.the mothership sputters afterdark trailor<br />
park trash doll wouser emitts chips in relation to Area 51. my gosh!!!u &amp; u&#8217;r starky comments<br />
don&#8217;t u ever like stop? but i mean i grow on people!so does fungi!!!no&#8230; wait !!!honey! plz!!Look at u pathetic, u wreak a deficiant virus &amp; im&#8217;a bout to bunch ya red button Sooo?any last words b4 u self-detonate?Oh of coarse.. I forgot to sequence ya countdown</p>
<p>hook;i slash space monkeys ,ratchet wheel tongue ,spot wolly wit a a snaggle gum fitted ,dentures spat out,head mounted version, zorb out of control to gargle your molars. Body cast over a bladed face amputated chain saw iron fist vitamins for the snail racing championships</p>
<p>plz reply if possible</p>
<p>have  heart,I know this world is cruel&amp;,hard&amp;that my dream is probably farfetched<br />
but sometimes I hope that one human out there just one, may understand.<br />
(by all means I&#8217;m prepared to face whatever pain &amp; consequences my decision would<br />
Have brought unto me(lock me up in a sanctum,train me ,torture me with food &amp; sleep deprivation till I  b&#8217;cum the best hacker to my fullest potential)</p>
<p>HOPE!2600</p>
<p>MY FELLOW BRETHREN</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/10/the-nerd-off/comment-page-1/#comment-20227</link>
		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 15:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t share PK&#039;s enthusiasm for a satisfying interpretation of QM. I mean, I won&#039;t be upset if there is one that gains any sort of wide acceptance (of course, Many Worlds variants have their enthusiastic supporters already, as does consistent/decoherent histories, etc) but for me, science is about making falsifiable predictions. It we can&#039;t arrange our mental furniture to our satisfaction over an issue like the Measurement Problem, it&#039;s no big deal to me. The hurdle at which Popper fell, that of deciding which of two equally predictive theories is &#039;best&#039;, is still alive in that regard. &#039;Easiest to make predictions&#039; might be a decent practical discriminator.

Which isn&#039;t to say that there isn&#039;t merit in attacking some of the same problems from the perspective of, say, what to do when no clear apparatus/system distinction can be made; that&#039;s a science question. I just don&#039;t have much time for &#039;what does it all mean, man&#039; questions. I don&#039;t think that they&#039;re without interest, I just think that they&#039;re not science, in general, subjective and also, potentially, unanswerable. It&#039;s not a significant failure if we can&#039;t make a pretty mental picture to explain things; there&#039;s no reason to expect that such a picture exists/can be created (depending on how much of a Platonist you are).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t share PK&#8217;s enthusiasm for a satisfying interpretation of QM. I mean, I won&#8217;t be upset if there is one that gains any sort of wide acceptance (of course, Many Worlds variants have their enthusiastic supporters already, as does consistent/decoherent histories, etc) but for me, science is about making falsifiable predictions. It we can&#8217;t arrange our mental furniture to our satisfaction over an issue like the Measurement Problem, it&#8217;s no big deal to me. The hurdle at which Popper fell, that of deciding which of two equally predictive theories is &#8216;best&#8217;, is still alive in that regard. &#8216;Easiest to make predictions&#8217; might be a decent practical discriminator.</p>
<p>Which isn&#8217;t to say that there isn&#8217;t merit in attacking some of the same problems from the perspective of, say, what to do when no clear apparatus/system distinction can be made; that&#8217;s a science question. I just don&#8217;t have much time for &#8216;what does it all mean, man&#8217; questions. I don&#8217;t think that they&#8217;re without interest, I just think that they&#8217;re not science, in general, subjective and also, potentially, unanswerable. It&#8217;s not a significant failure if we can&#8217;t make a pretty mental picture to explain things; there&#8217;s no reason to expect that such a picture exists/can be created (depending on how much of a Platonist you are).</p>
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		<title>By: Chinmaya Sheth</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/10/the-nerd-off/comment-page-1/#comment-20190</link>
		<dc:creator>Chinmaya Sheth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The foundations of physics community isn&#039;t exactly seperate from the physics community; the Kochen-Specker theorm is actually the Bell-Kochen-Specker theorem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The foundations of physics community isn&#8217;t exactly seperate from the physics community; the Kochen-Specker theorm is actually the Bell-Kochen-Specker theorem.</p>
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		<title>By: PK</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/10/the-nerd-off/comment-page-1/#comment-20215</link>
		<dc:creator>PK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 08:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my previous comment, I meant a Hilbert space larger &lt;i&gt;or equal&lt;/i&gt; than 3.

The measurement problem is indeed usually associated with the Copenhagen interpretation. However, it is the poster boy for similar problems in the other interpretations of quantum mechanics. You can compare it to fitting a carpet in a room that is too small: if you flatten a bulge in one place, it will pop up elsewhere. Consistent histories &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consistent_histories&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;also has its problems&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t object to nondeterministic theories, it is just that we cannot interpret quantum mechanical probabilities as classical probabilities (i.e., a lack of knowledge). Exactly how we &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; interpret the probabilities in quantum theory remains problematic.

I have heared many theoretical physicists rubbish the foundations of physics community, but so far &lt;i&gt;they&lt;/i&gt; have not come up with a consistent, satisfying interpretation of quantum mechanics either (other than the &quot;shut up and calculate&quot; interpretation). Perhaps it will all become clear when we have a theory of quantum gravity, who knows.

The point is that some physicicsts have the tendency to dismiss certain disciplines out of hand (the philosophy of quantum mechanics is a case in point), without any real knowledge of that discipline. In a wider context, philosophers such as Aristotle, Plato, Kant, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, etc. have had a profound influence on society, and you&#039;ll find that their thinking was incredibly complex. Just to put it out with the trash because there are a few charlatans around is naive and arrogant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my previous comment, I meant a Hilbert space larger <i>or equal</i> than 3.</p>
<p>The measurement problem is indeed usually associated with the Copenhagen interpretation. However, it is the poster boy for similar problems in the other interpretations of quantum mechanics. You can compare it to fitting a carpet in a room that is too small: if you flatten a bulge in one place, it will pop up elsewhere. Consistent histories <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consistent_histories" rel="nofollow">also has its problems</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t object to nondeterministic theories, it is just that we cannot interpret quantum mechanical probabilities as classical probabilities (i.e., a lack of knowledge). Exactly how we <i>should</i> interpret the probabilities in quantum theory remains problematic.</p>
<p>I have heared many theoretical physicists rubbish the foundations of physics community, but so far <i>they</i> have not come up with a consistent, satisfying interpretation of quantum mechanics either (other than the &#8220;shut up and calculate&#8221; interpretation). Perhaps it will all become clear when we have a theory of quantum gravity, who knows.</p>
<p>The point is that some physicicsts have the tendency to dismiss certain disciplines out of hand (the philosophy of quantum mechanics is a case in point), without any real knowledge of that discipline. In a wider context, philosophers such as Aristotle, Plato, Kant, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, etc. have had a profound influence on society, and you&#8217;ll find that their thinking was incredibly complex. Just to put it out with the trash because there are a few charlatans around is naive and arrogant.</p>
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		<title>By: Charon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/10/the-nerd-off/comment-page-1/#comment-20192</link>
		<dc:creator>Charon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 01:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; It pretty much boils down to what is commonly known as the measurement problem: at some point we have to make the cut what we consider quantum and what we consider classical.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s not true. See, for example, Victor Stenger&#039;s &lt;em&gt;The Unconscious Quantum: Metaphysics in Modern Physics and Cosmology&lt;/em&gt;. It&#039;s a problem with Copenhagen, to be sure, but certainly not all interpretations (such as coherent histories).

&lt;blockquote&gt;it is a theory that tells you how to calculate measurement outcomes, but those measurement outcomes cannot consistently be associated with properties of the underlying microscopic system.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m sorry, are you objecting to the fact that QM isn&#039;t deterministic? That&#039;s physics, not philosophy. If and when hidden variables are completely ruled out, it will be by physicists.

Philosophy has a role in interpretation of knowledge. Daniel Dennett, for instance. Rooted in science or math it can be okay. But much of philosophy does seem like a waste of time to those of us in the natural sciences. (And pretty uniquely philosophy, in my opinion. I value art, literature, social sciences, etc. quite highly.)

There are too many people trying to do philosophy of science who don&#039;t understand the science. I&#039;d prefer they left it to those who do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> It pretty much boils down to what is commonly known as the measurement problem: at some point we have to make the cut what we consider quantum and what we consider classical.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s not true. See, for example, Victor Stenger&#8217;s <em>The Unconscious Quantum: Metaphysics in Modern Physics and Cosmology</em>. It&#8217;s a problem with Copenhagen, to be sure, but certainly not all interpretations (such as coherent histories).</p>
<blockquote><p>it is a theory that tells you how to calculate measurement outcomes, but those measurement outcomes cannot consistently be associated with properties of the underlying microscopic system.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, are you objecting to the fact that QM isn&#8217;t deterministic? That&#8217;s physics, not philosophy. If and when hidden variables are completely ruled out, it will be by physicists.</p>
<p>Philosophy has a role in interpretation of knowledge. Daniel Dennett, for instance. Rooted in science or math it can be okay. But much of philosophy does seem like a waste of time to those of us in the natural sciences. (And pretty uniquely philosophy, in my opinion. I value art, literature, social sciences, etc. quite highly.)</p>
<p>There are too many people trying to do philosophy of science who don&#8217;t understand the science. I&#8217;d prefer they left it to those who do.</p>
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		<title>By: PK</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/10/the-nerd-off/comment-page-1/#comment-20191</link>
		<dc:creator>PK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 23:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
However, you wrote [that] &quot;measurement outcomes cannot consistently be associated with properties of the underlying microscopic system.&quot; When does this happen?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Whenever the dimension of your Hilbert is larger than 3. It is called the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kochen-Specker_theorem&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kochen-Specker theorem&lt;/a&gt;, which is related to &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleason&#039;s_theorem&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gleason&#039;s theorem&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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However, you wrote [that] &#8220;measurement outcomes cannot consistently be associated with properties of the underlying microscopic system.&#8221; When does this happen?
</p></blockquote>
<p>Whenever the dimension of your Hilbert is larger than 3. It is called the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kochen-Specker_theorem" rel="nofollow">Kochen-Specker theorem</a>, which is related to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleason's_theorem" rel="nofollow">Gleason&#8217;s theorem</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: strategichamlet</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/10/the-nerd-off/comment-page-1/#comment-20228</link>
		<dc:creator>strategichamlet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: humanities and science.

I had a history professor in college who said to me one time (as well as I can remember) &quot;The difference between what I do (history) and what you do (physics) is that for the most part everyone in your field can agree on what the important questions are, you may disagree about the answers, but there isn&#039;t much debate about the questions.  In history, however, we can&#039;t even agree on what the important questions are.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: humanities and science.</p>
<p>I had a history professor in college who said to me one time (as well as I can remember) &#8220;The difference between what I do (history) and what you do (physics) is that for the most part everyone in your field can agree on what the important questions are, you may disagree about the answers, but there isn&#8217;t much debate about the questions.  In history, however, we can&#8217;t even agree on what the important questions are.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Chinmaya Sheth</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2006/09/10/the-nerd-off/comment-page-1/#comment-20229</link>
		<dc:creator>Chinmaya Sheth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure some objects have to correspond to reality, otherwise there would be nothing to calculate. But there is no reason why some objects have to as long as you&#039;ve postulates that takes one from beyond observation to everything observable. My view on what makes a physical theory physical is (I think) rather traditional: it has to tell what will be the outcome of measurements; we can&#039;t know what reality is beyond our measurements so that&#039;s all we can claim to know. However, you wrote QM &quot;is a theory that tells you how to calculate measurement outcomes, but those measurement outcomes cannot consistently be associated with properties of the underlying microscopic system.&quot; When does this happen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure some objects have to correspond to reality, otherwise there would be nothing to calculate. But there is no reason why some objects have to as long as you&#8217;ve postulates that takes one from beyond observation to everything observable. My view on what makes a physical theory physical is (I think) rather traditional: it has to tell what will be the outcome of measurements; we can&#8217;t know what reality is beyond our measurements so that&#8217;s all we can claim to know. However, you wrote QM &#8220;is a theory that tells you how to calculate measurement outcomes, but those measurement outcomes cannot consistently be associated with properties of the underlying microscopic system.&#8221; When does this happen?</p>
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		<title>By: Gabrielvc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabrielvc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a good post, and in fact is closely related to myself. My wife, for instance, had a hard time teaching me how to combine the colors in the outfit.</description>
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		<title>By: Coltrane Variations &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coltrane Variations &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 17:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sean       &#171; The Nerd-Off &#160;&#160;&#160;&#160; [...]</description>
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