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	<title>Comments on: The Google is Destroying Our Capacity to Dream</title>
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		<title>By: Ars Mathematica &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mars, Chapelle-Style</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ars Mathematica &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mars, Chapelle-Style</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 04:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sean at Cosmic Variance notes that NASA has discovered that everyone is apathetic about their new planned mission to the Moon and then Mars, and that they are in the market for a celebrity spokesperson to change that. They are throwing around obvious names, like David Duchovny and Patrick Stewart, when the answer is obvious. There is only one man for the job of selling the new Mars mission: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sean at Cosmic Variance notes that NASA has discovered that everyone is apathetic about their new planned mission to the Moon and then Mars, and that they are in the market for a celebrity spokesperson to change that. They are throwing around obvious names, like David Duchovny and Patrick Stewart, when the answer is obvious. There is only one man for the job of selling the new Mars mission: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 01:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No wai! APOD (astronomy picture of the day) via NASA is one thing that keeps me interested in space, and it&#039;s on the web.
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No wai! APOD (astronomy picture of the day) via NASA is one thing that keeps me interested in space, and it&#8217;s on the web.<br />
<a href="http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html" rel="nofollow">http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 01:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kailee, I&#039;m not sure who said that the population of scientifically aware teenagers is dwindling.  I said the opposite -- young adults are not enthusiastic about the Moon mission, because there&#039;s little point to it, but they might get enthusiastic about real science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kailee, I&#8217;m not sure who said that the population of scientifically aware teenagers is dwindling.  I said the opposite &#8212; young adults are not enthusiastic about the Moon mission, because there&#8217;s little point to it, but they might get enthusiastic about real science.</p>
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		<title>By: kailee</title>
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		<dc:creator>kailee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 00:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although your article was very intriguing, I strongly disagree with several of your opinionated views. I myself am 14 and a freshman in high school. However I am very interested in science and on an advanced academic track in school. I also plan to become a Quantum Physicist after graduating from collage. Several of my friends are also on academic plans and do take an interest in science and the state of Scientific Awareness in the world. I believe that many people assume this generation of teenagers doesn&#039;t take plan ahead for or understand the future, although many of us do. They also do not understand that the typical stereotype for teenagers is evolving. Many of the advanced teenagers are just like other &quot;normal&quot; students. I myself am a cheerleader and basketball player. Most of my friends also participate in several sports and clubs along with other teenagers. However I do agree with your main which states that the population of scientifically aware teenagers is dwindling. Never the less, at this time many kids still take an interest in the universe and how our world is progressing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although your article was very intriguing, I strongly disagree with several of your opinionated views. I myself am 14 and a freshman in high school. However I am very interested in science and on an advanced academic track in school. I also plan to become a Quantum Physicist after graduating from collage. Several of my friends are also on academic plans and do take an interest in science and the state of Scientific Awareness in the world. I believe that many people assume this generation of teenagers doesn&#8217;t take plan ahead for or understand the future, although many of us do. They also do not understand that the typical stereotype for teenagers is evolving. Many of the advanced teenagers are just like other &#8220;normal&#8221; students. I myself am a cheerleader and basketball player. Most of my friends also participate in several sports and clubs along with other teenagers. However I do agree with your main which states that the population of scientifically aware teenagers is dwindling. Never the less, at this time many kids still take an interest in the universe and how our world is progressing.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily Nashif</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily Nashif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 17:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might be interested in watching some videos that a videographer friend of mine made for the 2006 &quot;2nd Space Exploration Conference&quot;.

The website isn&#039;t very beautiful, but the short videos are awesome.  They really demonstrate some of the mixture of apathy and enthusiasm that &quot;kids&quot; in college feel. Plus they sorta tug at the heartstrings of smart people. :)

Anyway, here&#039;s a link to the videos themselves: &lt;a href=&quot;http://autonomyproductions.com/projects/SpaceConference.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Space Walking&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might be interested in watching some videos that a videographer friend of mine made for the 2006 &#8220;2nd Space Exploration Conference&#8221;.</p>
<p>The website isn&#8217;t very beautiful, but the short videos are awesome.  They really demonstrate some of the mixture of apathy and enthusiasm that &#8220;kids&#8221; in college feel. Plus they sorta tug at the heartstrings of smart people. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway, here&#8217;s a link to the videos themselves: <a href="http://autonomyproductions.com/projects/SpaceConference.htm" rel="nofollow">Space Walking</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 03:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just recalled an article that I had read recently in a local newspaper which suggested helium-3 as a motivation for going back to the moon. I found the archive:

&lt;a href=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.madison.com/archives/read.php?ref=/tct/2006/12/23/0612230276.php&lt;/a&gt;

The motivation here is strictly energy and economic in nature, and not science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just recalled an article that I had read recently in a local newspaper which suggested helium-3 as a motivation for going back to the moon. I found the archive:</p>
<p><a href="" rel="nofollow">http://www.madison.com/archives/read.php?ref=/tct/2006/12/23/0612230276.php</a></p>
<p>The motivation here is strictly energy and economic in nature, and not science.</p>
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		<title>By: Belizean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belizean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 02:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the answer to apathy is an &lt;i&gt;even greater&lt;/i&gt; boondoggle.  The administration should announce the Warp Drive Project.

Sure, it won&#039;t lead to a warp engine.  But it will employ a huge number of physicists, who are bound to make fundamental advances of some sort.  And it&#039;s harder to be apathetic about exploring &lt;i&gt;the galaxy&lt;/i&gt;.   Until, of course, it&#039;s generally realized that it&#039;s not going to happen.  But that public realization could take many years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the answer to apathy is an <i>even greater</i> boondoggle.  The administration should announce the Warp Drive Project.</p>
<p>Sure, it won&#8217;t lead to a warp engine.  But it will employ a huge number of physicists, who are bound to make fundamental advances of some sort.  And it&#8217;s harder to be apathetic about exploring <i>the galaxy</i>.   Until, of course, it&#8217;s generally realized that it&#8217;s not going to happen.  But that public realization could take many years.</p>
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		<title>By: Chastity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chastity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2007 15:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In one among his several excellent popular books, Disturbing the Universe, maybe,  Freeman Dyson describes the kinds of very small ( kilograms ) and  very smart robots that could be designed to explore our solar system  inexpensively and more effectively than humans ever could.  It&#039;s interesting  to think not in terms of one or two robots but of hundreds or thousands of such rugged explorers peering into every crevice of the solar system and parachuting  test tubes back down to us sensibly earthbound scientists.  There&#039;s really no argument here:  the respective payoffs of manned vs. unmanned exploration are obviously hugely lopsided.

 If the objective is colonization of space, well, then again there is no argument - that  of course takes people.  But it is my hope space colonization can be retarded for as long as possible, until we can find the wherewithal for solving some of our political and social problems here on earth rather than seeding  these monsters throughout the universe.

Manned missions would offer only cheap political thrills for the unlettered and  no inspiration to  young people interested in physics -  our topic here. Trying to inspire kids with trips to the moon is like trying to lure you theoretical physicists away from your next conference with some circus tickets. They know better and they deserve better, as does physics itself.

The Internet does not draw kids away from science. It obviously makes science far easier for children to access and learn.  I remember hitchhiking to a tiny library in another  town several miles away  wherein I could behold its single book on calculus.  The Internet is nothing but fabulous for science and curious kids.

In his same book, Dyson tells how the government pays him huge sums of money for his scientific studies from which he draws very sound and deeply considered advice, advice, he says, that the government *never* takes.  So it&#039;s All Aboard for Mars!, kids,  unless some smarter and better motivated people can take charge of things. Maybe we would do better to  find ways for encouraging retired physicists to enter politics (yuk!), and then things might naturally work out  better for physics and young physicists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In one among his several excellent popular books, Disturbing the Universe, maybe,  Freeman Dyson describes the kinds of very small ( kilograms ) and  very smart robots that could be designed to explore our solar system  inexpensively and more effectively than humans ever could.  It&#8217;s interesting  to think not in terms of one or two robots but of hundreds or thousands of such rugged explorers peering into every crevice of the solar system and parachuting  test tubes back down to us sensibly earthbound scientists.  There&#8217;s really no argument here:  the respective payoffs of manned vs. unmanned exploration are obviously hugely lopsided.</p>
<p> If the objective is colonization of space, well, then again there is no argument &#8211; that  of course takes people.  But it is my hope space colonization can be retarded for as long as possible, until we can find the wherewithal for solving some of our political and social problems here on earth rather than seeding  these monsters throughout the universe.</p>
<p>Manned missions would offer only cheap political thrills for the unlettered and  no inspiration to  young people interested in physics &#8211;  our topic here. Trying to inspire kids with trips to the moon is like trying to lure you theoretical physicists away from your next conference with some circus tickets. They know better and they deserve better, as does physics itself.</p>
<p>The Internet does not draw kids away from science. It obviously makes science far easier for children to access and learn.  I remember hitchhiking to a tiny library in another  town several miles away  wherein I could behold its single book on calculus.  The Internet is nothing but fabulous for science and curious kids.</p>
<p>In his same book, Dyson tells how the government pays him huge sums of money for his scientific studies from which he draws very sound and deeply considered advice, advice, he says, that the government *never* takes.  So it&#8217;s All Aboard for Mars!, kids,  unless some smarter and better motivated people can take charge of things. Maybe we would do better to  find ways for encouraging retired physicists to enter politics (yuk!), and then things might naturally work out  better for physics and young physicists.</p>
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		<title>By: oligofree</title>
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		<dc:creator>oligofree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2007 14:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better think about blogging &amp; online gaming.. is there a crossing point between that  trend and Google, You tube, NASA ambitions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better think about blogging &amp; online gaming.. is there a crossing point between that  trend and Google, You tube, NASA ambitions?</p>
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		<title>By: JimV</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2007 00:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t argue with those who say the money for a moon colony could be more wisely spent on other things which are needed now ... but then I think of all the resources that are outside our gravity well - all that solar energy, the He3 from solar flares that may be collecting in the moon&#039;s south polar craters, more fresh water ice in the rings of Saturn than salt water in our oceans, comet-loads of hydrocarbons, etc. - and I&#039;d like to see us make a start at claiming those resources for the sake of future generations who will need them; and a moon base seems to me to be the best way to make that start.

There will be lots of challenges, but there may also be exciting solutions.  E.g., an article in a recent issue of &quot;Analog&quot; magazine proposes using &quot;high-temperature&quot; (~200 Rankin) super-conductors to create magnetic radiation shields in the bottom of a polar crater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t argue with those who say the money for a moon colony could be more wisely spent on other things which are needed now &#8230; but then I think of all the resources that are outside our gravity well &#8211; all that solar energy, the He3 from solar flares that may be collecting in the moon&#8217;s south polar craters, more fresh water ice in the rings of Saturn than salt water in our oceans, comet-loads of hydrocarbons, etc. &#8211; and I&#8217;d like to see us make a start at claiming those resources for the sake of future generations who will need them; and a moon base seems to me to be the best way to make that start.</p>
<p>There will be lots of challenges, but there may also be exciting solutions.  E.g., an article in a recent issue of &#8220;Analog&#8221; magazine proposes using &#8220;high-temperature&#8221; (~200 Rankin) super-conductors to create magnetic radiation shields in the bottom of a polar crater.</p>
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