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	<title>Comments on: A Letter from the Fermilab Director</title>
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		<title>By: Sohbet</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/01/05/a-letter-from-the-fermilab-director/comment-page-1/#comment-23783</link>
		<dc:creator>Sohbet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 00:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Fermilab.</description>
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		<title>By: Tony Smith</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/01/05/a-letter-from-the-fermilab-director/comment-page-1/#comment-23782</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 03:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete compared &quot;... the cost of a single cruise missile, versus hamstringing the nation&#039;s science ...&quot;.

Another interesting comparison is the ILC (somewhere between $6 billion and $12 billion or so)
with a new aircraft carrier.

According to a navy web page at http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=4200&amp;tid=250&amp;ct=4
&quot;... The CVN 21 Program is the future aircraft carrier replacement program for USS Enterprise and CVN 68-Class aircraft carriers. ...
The total cost to build the lead ship ... CVN 78 ... is $8.1B in FY08$.
The Navy expects to award the CVN 78 construction contract in FY08 with an expected delivery in FY15. ...
the total ownership cost for CVN 78 ... over its 50 year service life ... is expected to be $26.8B ...&quot;.

In short, the USA could probably completely fund the ILC all by itself by foregoing a new navy aircraft carrier.

It should be noted that aircraft carriers in the 21st century may be rendered obsolete by missiles, whose technology is far advanced since the carrier&#039;s heyday of World War II.

Since the USA now has 3 carrier groups in the Persian Gulf region (the latest being the Stennis which according to a DEBKA web article is being deployed &quot;as a warning to Syria and Iran&quot;),
and since Iran around November 2006 &quot;... demonstrated up-to-date missile-launching technology which the West had not known them to possess. They also displayed unfamiliar warheads. ...&quot; (see another DEBKA web article),
it is possible that the near future may see a conflict testing whether or not 21st century missiles will render aircraft carriers obsolete for fighting anyone with 21st century weapons.

I don&#039;t know what would happen in such a conflict, but one military commentator whose web pages are at http://www.exile.ru/archive/by_author/gary_brecher.html said back around December 2002:

&quot;... A few years ago, a US submarine commander said, &quot;There are two kinds of ship in the US Navy: subs and targets.&quot;
The fact that big surface ships are dinosaurs is something that&#039;s gotten clearer every decade since 1921. ... the aircraft carrier is now: a big, proud, expensive...sitting duck. Aircraft carriers came out of WW II looking powerful, but that was before microchips. ...
what about Iran? ... The Iranians are ... smart, they&#039;re dedicated, and they hate us like poison. ... Give the Navy the benefit of the doubt and say they get 90% of the incoming missiles. You still end up with a dead carrier. ...
... if Iran gets involved, those carriers won&#039;t last one day. ... And the sickest part is that the admirals and the captains and the contractors all know it. ...
it won&#039;t be the brass who die. It&#039;ll be the poor trusting kids on those carriers who&#039;ll die, the poor suckers who thought they&#039;d get free training and a world tour, or even get the chance to &quot;defend America.&quot; They&#039;ll die not even believing what&#039;s happening to them as the whole giant hulk starts cracking up and sliding into the water. ...&quot;.

Tony Smith
http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete compared &#8220;&#8230; the cost of a single cruise missile, versus hamstringing the nation&#8217;s science &#8230;&#8221;.</p>
<p>Another interesting comparison is the ILC (somewhere between $6 billion and $12 billion or so)<br />
with a new aircraft carrier.</p>
<p>According to a navy web page at <a href="http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=4200&amp;tid=250&amp;ct=4" rel="nofollow">http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=4200&amp;tid=250&amp;ct=4</a><br />
&#8220;&#8230; The CVN 21 Program is the future aircraft carrier replacement program for USS Enterprise and CVN 68-Class aircraft carriers. &#8230;<br />
The total cost to build the lead ship &#8230; CVN 78 &#8230; is $8.1B in FY08$.<br />
The Navy expects to award the CVN 78 construction contract in FY08 with an expected delivery in FY15. &#8230;<br />
the total ownership cost for CVN 78 &#8230; over its 50 year service life &#8230; is expected to be $26.8B &#8230;&#8221;.</p>
<p>In short, the USA could probably completely fund the ILC all by itself by foregoing a new navy aircraft carrier.</p>
<p>It should be noted that aircraft carriers in the 21st century may be rendered obsolete by missiles, whose technology is far advanced since the carrier&#8217;s heyday of World War II.</p>
<p>Since the USA now has 3 carrier groups in the Persian Gulf region (the latest being the Stennis which according to a DEBKA web article is being deployed &#8220;as a warning to Syria and Iran&#8221;),<br />
and since Iran around November 2006 &#8220;&#8230; demonstrated up-to-date missile-launching technology which the West had not known them to possess. They also displayed unfamiliar warheads. &#8230;&#8221; (see another DEBKA web article),<br />
it is possible that the near future may see a conflict testing whether or not 21st century missiles will render aircraft carriers obsolete for fighting anyone with 21st century weapons.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what would happen in such a conflict, but one military commentator whose web pages are at <a href="http://www.exile.ru/archive/by_author/gary_brecher.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.exile.ru/archive/by_author/gary_brecher.html</a> said back around December 2002:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; A few years ago, a US submarine commander said, &#8220;There are two kinds of ship in the US Navy: subs and targets.&#8221;<br />
The fact that big surface ships are dinosaurs is something that&#8217;s gotten clearer every decade since 1921. &#8230; the aircraft carrier is now: a big, proud, expensive&#8230;sitting duck. Aircraft carriers came out of WW II looking powerful, but that was before microchips. &#8230;<br />
what about Iran? &#8230; The Iranians are &#8230; smart, they&#8217;re dedicated, and they hate us like poison. &#8230; Give the Navy the benefit of the doubt and say they get 90% of the incoming missiles. You still end up with a dead carrier. &#8230;<br />
&#8230; if Iran gets involved, those carriers won&#8217;t last one day. &#8230; And the sickest part is that the admirals and the captains and the contractors all know it. &#8230;<br />
it won&#8217;t be the brass who die. It&#8217;ll be the poor trusting kids on those carriers who&#8217;ll die, the poor suckers who thought they&#8217;d get free training and a world tour, or even get the chance to &#8220;defend America.&#8221; They&#8217;ll die not even believing what&#8217;s happening to them as the whole giant hulk starts cracking up and sliding into the water. &#8230;&#8221;.</p>
<p>Tony Smith<br />
<a href="http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/" rel="nofollow">http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pete Markowitz</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/01/05/a-letter-from-the-fermilab-director/comment-page-1/#comment-23784</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Markowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 15:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, Fermilab is in &quot;good company&quot;, meaning other labs are also facing the same problem.  Within minutes of receiving the notification by Fermilab, I received the following, similar notification by Jefferson Lab:

Dear Jefferson Lab Users,

I am sure that the broad media coverage of the subject has alerted you that Congress will most likely fund the Department of Energy and indeed most of the Government through a yearlong Continuing Resolution. As you may remember, the President&#039;s Budget Request for FY 2007 had significant increases for the Office of Science and Nuclear Physics and included $7M PED funds for the 12 GeV Upgrade. Despite passage in both the House and Senate, the lack of a final bill before the installation of the 110th Congress has made a long-term continuing resolution the most likely funding scenario for this year. There are still open questions about the details and there may be room for some mitigating adjustments, but in a worst-case scenario, the Office of Science and therefore Nuclear Physics will be funded at the FY 06 level.

Although our final FY07 budget has not yet been determined, I believe it is important to inform the Jefferson Lab user community of the impacts that funding at this level would have on this Laboratory, its operations and its programs. In view of the uncertainty in the budget situation for FY07, we are forced to consider the recently posted accelerator schedule as &quot;firm&quot; only through March 25.  You will remember that in FY06, Jefferson Lab funding was cut 8% relative to FY05, resulting in a major impact on the laboratory.  Funding carried over from FY 05 mitigated the impact somewhat, but the Lab still had to institute a broad range of cost-cutting measures including voluntary separations to reduce staff. These measures, including a major improvement in the operation of the cryoplant that cut operating costs by $1k/day, and an extended period of low energy running (and reduced multiplicity and experiment turnover), allowed us to deliver a substantial fraction (~2/3) of the experimental program we had originally planned for FY06.
Indeed, the only reason we can continue running between now and late in the second quarter of FY07 is due to the fact that the machine energy is unusually low (to accommodate the G0 backward angle beam energy requirements), resulting in low-impact, low-cost operation for the set of experiments that have already been installed. If the worst-case scenario becomes real, i.e. if the actual budget for FY07 including the 12 GeV Upgrade is held to the FY06 budget level we will be forced to terminate experimental research using CEBAF for the remainder of the year. This will result in a major loss of research output, cutting the hall-weeks of operation by more than a factor of two for FY07. The necessary reduction in spending on capital equipment will also have a very serious effect on the preparation of experiments planned in FY08 and beyond.

This situation is very serious for JLab as an institution and for you, its users. We cannot exclude the possibility, however, that the Joint Budget Resolution that will succeed the current CR in mid-February leaves room for some compromises, and I can assure you that many constituencies are engaged in efforts to achieve a less severe outcome.  Looking beyond FY 07, we have every reason to believe that the Administration will for FY 08 and the outyears request budgets  consistent with those proposed for FY07 and beyond as part of the American Competitiveness Initiative â€&quot; including support for the 12 GeV Upgrade. When these higher funding levels become available, we intend to resume operations broadly following the plan laid out in the recently released &quot;firm&quot; portion of the schedule (i.e. the experiments planned through June of 2007) and to evaluate the &quot;tentative&quot; portion of the schedule (i.e. experiments currently planned for the second half of 2007) in the manner that we always do for the research program.

I deeply regret having to bring you bad news, but I hope this letter will provide you with some of the information you are looking for. I also realize that the situation is very dynamic, allows very few definitive statements, and may have raised more questions than given answers. I urge you to call or visit me if you would like to talk or hear more about these issues. Personally, I see the current situation as a very serious and painful setback, but I firmly believe that the growing broad support for science will continue and find its expression in appropriate budgets.


Christoph Leemann

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The comparison I keep coming back to is the cost of a single cruise missile, versus hamstringing the nation&#039;s science.  As a country, we seem to be much more willing to destroy thean to build.

       -pete</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, Fermilab is in &#8220;good company&#8221;, meaning other labs are also facing the same problem.  Within minutes of receiving the notification by Fermilab, I received the following, similar notification by Jefferson Lab:</p>
<p>Dear Jefferson Lab Users,</p>
<p>I am sure that the broad media coverage of the subject has alerted you that Congress will most likely fund the Department of Energy and indeed most of the Government through a yearlong Continuing Resolution. As you may remember, the President&#8217;s Budget Request for FY 2007 had significant increases for the Office of Science and Nuclear Physics and included $7M PED funds for the 12 GeV Upgrade. Despite passage in both the House and Senate, the lack of a final bill before the installation of the 110th Congress has made a long-term continuing resolution the most likely funding scenario for this year. There are still open questions about the details and there may be room for some mitigating adjustments, but in a worst-case scenario, the Office of Science and therefore Nuclear Physics will be funded at the FY 06 level.</p>
<p>Although our final FY07 budget has not yet been determined, I believe it is important to inform the Jefferson Lab user community of the impacts that funding at this level would have on this Laboratory, its operations and its programs. In view of the uncertainty in the budget situation for FY07, we are forced to consider the recently posted accelerator schedule as &#8220;firm&#8221; only through March 25.  You will remember that in FY06, Jefferson Lab funding was cut 8% relative to FY05, resulting in a major impact on the laboratory.  Funding carried over from FY 05 mitigated the impact somewhat, but the Lab still had to institute a broad range of cost-cutting measures including voluntary separations to reduce staff. These measures, including a major improvement in the operation of the cryoplant that cut operating costs by $1k/day, and an extended period of low energy running (and reduced multiplicity and experiment turnover), allowed us to deliver a substantial fraction (~2/3) of the experimental program we had originally planned for FY06.<br />
Indeed, the only reason we can continue running between now and late in the second quarter of FY07 is due to the fact that the machine energy is unusually low (to accommodate the G0 backward angle beam energy requirements), resulting in low-impact, low-cost operation for the set of experiments that have already been installed. If the worst-case scenario becomes real, i.e. if the actual budget for FY07 including the 12 GeV Upgrade is held to the FY06 budget level we will be forced to terminate experimental research using CEBAF for the remainder of the year. This will result in a major loss of research output, cutting the hall-weeks of operation by more than a factor of two for FY07. The necessary reduction in spending on capital equipment will also have a very serious effect on the preparation of experiments planned in FY08 and beyond.</p>
<p>This situation is very serious for JLab as an institution and for you, its users. We cannot exclude the possibility, however, that the Joint Budget Resolution that will succeed the current CR in mid-February leaves room for some compromises, and I can assure you that many constituencies are engaged in efforts to achieve a less severe outcome.  Looking beyond FY 07, we have every reason to believe that the Administration will for FY 08 and the outyears request budgets  consistent with those proposed for FY07 and beyond as part of the American Competitiveness Initiative â€&#8221; including support for the 12 GeV Upgrade. When these higher funding levels become available, we intend to resume operations broadly following the plan laid out in the recently released &#8220;firm&#8221; portion of the schedule (i.e. the experiments planned through June of 2007) and to evaluate the &#8220;tentative&#8221; portion of the schedule (i.e. experiments currently planned for the second half of 2007) in the manner that we always do for the research program.</p>
<p>I deeply regret having to bring you bad news, but I hope this letter will provide you with some of the information you are looking for. I also realize that the situation is very dynamic, allows very few definitive statements, and may have raised more questions than given answers. I urge you to call or visit me if you would like to talk or hear more about these issues. Personally, I see the current situation as a very serious and painful setback, but I firmly believe that the growing broad support for science will continue and find its expression in appropriate budgets.</p>
<p>Christoph Leemann</p>
<p>***************************************************<br />
The comparison I keep coming back to is the cost of a single cruise missile, versus hamstringing the nation&#8217;s science.  As a country, we seem to be much more willing to destroy thean to build.</p>
<p>       -pete</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 21:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s utterly depressing. NASA&#039;s in the same CR mode too, but I haven&#039;t heard anything about layoffs or furloughs at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s utterly depressing. NASA&#8217;s in the same CR mode too, but I haven&#8217;t heard anything about layoffs or furloughs at all.</p>
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		<title>By: JoAnne</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/01/05/a-letter-from-the-fermilab-director/comment-page-1/#comment-23781</link>
		<dc:creator>JoAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 00:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SLAC had to do this a couple years back.  Every SLAC employee worked for 2 weeks without pay.  Lay-offs followed the next 2 years.  It&#039;s been pretty grim for the physical sciences for a long time now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SLAC had to do this a couple years back.  Every SLAC employee worked for 2 weeks without pay.  Lay-offs followed the next 2 years.  It&#8217;s been pretty grim for the physical sciences for a long time now.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris W.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/01/05/a-letter-from-the-fermilab-director/comment-page-1/#comment-23780</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 00:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a less melancholy subject: Special mention for &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sciencemag.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Science&lt;/em&gt; Magazine&lt;/a&gt;&#039;s special issue, focusing on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/315/5808/55&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;particle astrophysics and cosmology&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a less melancholy subject: Special mention for <a href="http://www.sciencemag.org" rel="nofollow"><em>Science</em> Magazine</a>&#8217;s special issue, focusing on <a href="http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/315/5808/55" rel="nofollow"><b>particle astrophysics and cosmology</b></a>.</p>
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