Comments on: Mmmm … Sacrilicious! http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/03/30/mmmm-sacrilicious/ Random samplings from a universe of ideas. Sun, 21 Mar 2010 20:59:42 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: cynic http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/03/30/mmmm-sacrilicious/comment-page-1/#comment-26502 cynic Fri, 06 Apr 2007 11:31:34 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/03/30/mmmm-sacrilicious/#comment-26502 This noisome object, was it made with a mould taken from a living male model, or is it a carving? If the latter is the case it's a masterpiece, almost worthy of Michaelangelo; the subversion of such technical viruosity in a silly easter joke would have a style and chutzpah of the first order. I fear it might be the former though; it's easier to plaster cast a dick than it is to carve drapery. In which case the whimsical title, the insult it has caused etc. are about as boring as rest of the tiresome CV anti religious bollocks, which, increasingly, tends to drive the discerning reader off to look at Dr Johnson's garden. This noisome object, was it made with a mould taken from a living male model, or is it a carving? If the latter is the case it’s a masterpiece, almost worthy of Michaelangelo; the subversion of such technical viruosity in a silly easter joke would have a style and chutzpah of the first order. I fear it might be the former though; it’s easier to plaster cast a dick than it is to carve drapery. In which case the whimsical title, the insult it has caused etc. are about as boring as rest of the tiresome CV anti religious bollocks, which, increasingly, tends to drive the discerning reader off to look at Dr Johnson’s garden.

]]> By: Vince http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/03/30/mmmm-sacrilicious/comment-page-1/#comment-26517 Vince Tue, 03 Apr 2007 18:17:31 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/03/30/mmmm-sacrilicious/#comment-26517 Oh well. Oh well.

]]> By: Nick http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/03/30/mmmm-sacrilicious/comment-page-1/#comment-26468 Nick Tue, 03 Apr 2007 16:52:47 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/03/30/mmmm-sacrilicious/#comment-26468 I agree with Qubit's "common sense." However, people seem to have the capacity to "believe" anything. I agree with Qubit’s “common sense.” However, people seem to have the capacity to “believe” anything.

]]> By: Vince http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/03/30/mmmm-sacrilicious/comment-page-1/#comment-26469 Vince Tue, 03 Apr 2007 14:05:48 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/03/30/mmmm-sacrilicious/#comment-26469 You see, Stephen, you need facts and figures to support your view that 'rampant' is the appropriate term to use. So, if the Higgs boson is discovered by a team at the LHC, they'll need to provide the required observations and figures that show that the Higgs boson was produced. Please don't let your prejudice against the Catholic Church cloud your judgment about the appropriateness of a particular term. Where does the Bible say "celebrate", out of curiosity, and in what context? I would like to look it up. There are many many priests who successfully live out their vocation. Trust me, I know my own Church. Qubit, Christians believe that Jesus rose from the dead. I don't know how (except that it was done by God), and I don't know how different the risen body is from the body before death, but that's the belief. This is different from the kind of resurrection that is supposed to happen to regular people since we see the body of the person decay on Earth. Now, you may think "how convenient that Christians teach that Jesus rose from the dead when there's virtually no way to prove that he didn't, yet they also teach that regular people don't rise from the dead but still get resurrected into some form." and that's fine. But that's the belief, like it or not. You see, Stephen, you need facts and figures to support your view that ‘rampant’ is the appropriate term to use. So, if the Higgs boson is discovered by a team at the LHC, they’ll need to provide the required observations and figures that show that the Higgs boson was produced. Please don’t let your prejudice against the Catholic Church cloud your judgment about the appropriateness of a particular term.

Where does the Bible say “celebrate”, out of curiosity, and in what context? I would like to look it up. There are many many priests who successfully live out their vocation. Trust me, I know my own Church.

Qubit,

Christians believe that Jesus rose from the dead. I don’t know how (except that it was done by God), and I don’t know how different the risen body is from the body before death, but that’s the belief. This is different from the kind of resurrection that is supposed to happen to regular people since we see the body of the person decay on Earth. Now, you may think “how convenient that Christians teach that Jesus rose from the dead when there’s virtually no way to prove that he didn’t, yet they also teach that regular people don’t rise from the dead but still get resurrected into some form.” and that’s fine. But that’s the belief, like it or not.

]]> By: Vince http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/03/30/mmmm-sacrilicious/comment-page-1/#comment-26501 Vince Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:33:52 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/03/30/mmmm-sacrilicious/#comment-26501 Stephen, rampant sort of means that it's happening everywhere, everytime, and, in particular, that most priests do it. which isn't true. And you have failed to provide stats Stephen,

rampant sort of means that it’s happening everywhere, everytime, and, in particular, that most priests do it. which isn’t true. And you have failed to provide stats

]]> By: Qubit http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/03/30/mmmm-sacrilicious/comment-page-1/#comment-26516 Qubit Mon, 02 Apr 2007 21:38:09 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/03/30/mmmm-sacrilicious/#comment-26516 There is one way it could happen, resurrection could be possible if Christ was not a person, in the same sense as we are. He would have to be a object escaping from a black hole, or part of the information of an object escaping from a complex type of Black Hole ( A gravitational Mind ) in order to become real. Pinocchio's conscience so to speak. There may be a dark star orbiting our solar system, the Suns twin and it could come close to the earth at certain times or even pass through it. I could go into a bit more detail, but it has nothing to do with A Chocolate Jesus. There is one way it could happen, resurrection could be possible if Christ was not a person, in the same sense as we are. He would have to be a object escaping from a black hole, or part of the information of an object escaping from a complex type of Black Hole ( A gravitational Mind ) in order to become real. Pinocchio’s conscience so to speak. There may be a dark star orbiting our solar system, the Suns twin and it could come close to the earth at certain times or even pass through it.

I could go into a bit more detail, but it has nothing to do with A Chocolate Jesus.

]]> By: Stephen Uitti http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/03/30/mmmm-sacrilicious/comment-page-1/#comment-26492 Stephen Uitti Mon, 02 Apr 2007 19:17:23 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/03/30/mmmm-sacrilicious/#comment-26492 <i>rampant and systematic sexual abuse of young boys by Catholic priests?</i> Unlike Vince and EG, i have no problem with <i>rampant</i>. But <i>systematic</i> is a little harsh. Unless you count that stupid idea of having celibate priests. For one, it's not Biblical. The Bible says "celebrate". Expect erratic erotic behavior from the extremely horny. rampant and systematic sexual abuse of young boys by Catholic priests?

Unlike Vince and EG, i have no problem with rampant. But systematic is a little harsh. Unless you count that stupid idea of having celibate priests. For one, it’s not Biblical. The Bible says “celebrate”. Expect erratic erotic behavior from the extremely horny.

]]> By: Vince http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/03/30/mmmm-sacrilicious/comment-page-1/#comment-26493 Vince Sun, 01 Apr 2007 19:25:43 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/03/30/mmmm-sacrilicious/#comment-26493 "Vince "proof", what happen to common sense! People just are not resurrected after being crucified, they are DEAD! Forever." The first sentence is a bit awkward, but I think I get what you're saying. Common sense isn't always correct, as I'm sure you're well aware. Anyway, I'm saying Jesus wasn't made up, and I'm not sure how resurrection came up in the discussion. Anyway, the truth is that I can't prove to you that resurrection happens and you can't prove to me that resurrection doesn't happen (That is, as long as resurrection happens "in Heaven", and not in our universe -- assuming, of course, that there is a "spiritual realm" and that the material universe isn't all there is. But hey, if physicists can advocate the notion of the multiverse, which is directly unobservable -- not to mention branes in string theory -- I can advocate the notion that there's a Heaven.) But, assuming Jesus isn't imaginary, something happened to him after he died, and after he died a whole bunch of people started preaching that he was resurrected, and died for preaching it. Resurrection is a belief that Christians have, and you can choose to believe in it or not. But hey, if that French nun, along with her fellow sisters and mothers, are telling the truth, then I guess resurrection does happen. Have a nice day. “Vince “proof”, what happen to common sense! People just are not resurrected after being crucified, they are DEAD! Forever.”

The first sentence is a bit awkward, but I think I get what you’re saying. Common sense isn’t always correct, as I’m sure you’re well aware. Anyway, I’m saying Jesus wasn’t made up, and I’m not sure how resurrection came up in the discussion. Anyway, the truth is that I can’t prove to you that resurrection happens and you can’t prove to me that resurrection doesn’t happen (That is, as long as resurrection happens “in Heaven”, and not in our universe — assuming, of course, that there is a “spiritual realm” and that the material universe isn’t all there is. But hey, if physicists can advocate the notion of the multiverse, which is directly unobservable — not to mention branes in string theory — I can advocate the notion that there’s a Heaven.)

But, assuming Jesus isn’t imaginary, something happened to him after he died, and after he died a whole bunch of people started preaching that he was resurrected, and died for preaching it.

Resurrection is a belief that Christians have, and you can choose to believe in it or not. But hey, if that French nun, along with her fellow sisters and mothers, are telling the truth, then I guess resurrection does happen.

Have a nice day.

]]> By: Qubit http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/03/30/mmmm-sacrilicious/comment-page-1/#comment-26512 Qubit Sun, 01 Apr 2007 18:53:43 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/03/30/mmmm-sacrilicious/#comment-26512 Vince "proof", what happen to common sense! People just are not resurrected after being crucified, they are DEAD! Forever. <blockquote> No, Jesus was historical, despite the assertions of a low-rent "documentary" to the contrary. </blockquote> I would not know I have never seen it Robert. I was taking about the desgin on them stone ossuary's. These were probably very common in that time. http://images.ctv.ca/archives/CTVNews/img2/20070226/160_ap_tomb2_070226.jpg Armenian cosmic symbols http://www.armenianhighland.com/images/nkarner/nkar_3814.jpg Qubit Vince “proof”, what happen to common sense! People just are not resurrected after being crucified, they are DEAD! Forever.

No, Jesus was historical, despite the assertions of a low-rent “documentary” to the contrary.

I would not know I have never seen it Robert. I was taking about the desgin on them stone ossuary’s. These were probably very common in that time.

http://images.ctv.ca/archives/CTVNews/img2/20070226/160_ap_tomb2_070226.jpg

Armenian cosmic symbols

http://www.armenianhighland.com/images/nkarner/nkar_3814.jpg

Qubit

]]> By: Vince http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/03/30/mmmm-sacrilicious/comment-page-1/#comment-26507 Vince Sun, 01 Apr 2007 01:10:59 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/03/30/mmmm-sacrilicious/#comment-26507 If the nun's healing was not natural, then how did it happen as a material process following a new set of physical laws? Maybe "natural" for you means following the laws of physics as they are now for our universe. Anyway, maybe the healing wasn't a mechanistic process following a new set of physical laws. Or perhaps God caused the 6 extra dimensions to compactify differently. I don't know. If the nun’s healing was not natural, then how did it happen as a material process following a new set of physical laws? Maybe “natural” for you means following the laws of physics as they are now for our universe.

Anyway, maybe the healing wasn’t a mechanistic process following a new set of physical laws.

Or perhaps God caused the 6 extra dimensions to compactify differently. I don’t know.

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