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	<title>Comments on: It Does Matter What People Think About How the World Works</title>
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		<title>By: Presidential Science Debate &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Presidential Science Debate &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The only downside I can see is that the Republican candidate will express skepticism about evolution, global warming, and heliocentrism, and the world&#8217;s image of the U.S. will plummet even [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The only downside I can see is that the Republican candidate will express skepticism about evolution, global warming, and heliocentrism, and the world&#8217;s image of the U.S. will plummet even [...]</p>
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		<title>By: uzir</title>
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		<dc:creator>uzir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish to comment solely on the Virgin Birth.

There are documented cases of virgin birth in the medical literature.

A particular example is of a 15 year old girl in Africa (unable to recall the specific country atm) with an imperforate hymen, who was discovered to be pregnant when she reported with abdominal complaint.  This was quite a surprise to the md, as her vagina was completely closed at the entrance.

The specific mechanism of insemination became apparent upon interview:  She had performed oral sex upon a male acquaintance, when his girlfriend discovered them and attacked her with a knife, piercing her abdomen, and thus providing passage for sperm into her inviolate womb.

I have no comment as to how this may relate to religious matters, except to point out that the unlikely is not impossible, and statistical certainty doesn&#039;t exist.

I do wish to point out that we are all quite arrogant, and have faith in our own observations.  Humility is no less desirable from science than from theology, in consideration of  politics particularly, that most fractious of human endeavors.

We do well who remain certain of our own fallibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish to comment solely on the Virgin Birth.</p>
<p>There are documented cases of virgin birth in the medical literature.</p>
<p>A particular example is of a 15 year old girl in Africa (unable to recall the specific country atm) with an imperforate hymen, who was discovered to be pregnant when she reported with abdominal complaint.  This was quite a surprise to the md, as her vagina was completely closed at the entrance.</p>
<p>The specific mechanism of insemination became apparent upon interview:  She had performed oral sex upon a male acquaintance, when his girlfriend discovered them and attacked her with a knife, piercing her abdomen, and thus providing passage for sperm into her inviolate womb.</p>
<p>I have no comment as to how this may relate to religious matters, except to point out that the unlikely is not impossible, and statistical certainty doesn&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>I do wish to point out that we are all quite arrogant, and have faith in our own observations.  Humility is no less desirable from science than from theology, in consideration of  politics particularly, that most fractious of human endeavors.</p>
<p>We do well who remain certain of our own fallibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean says evolution proved beyond a reasonable doubt &#171; Bob Dudesky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean says evolution proved beyond a reasonable doubt &#171; Bob Dudesky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 16:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] June 4th, 2007 at 8:24 pm (ScieTalk, Talk)   The link: It does matter what people think about how the world works [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] June 4th, 2007 at 8:24 pm (ScieTalk, Talk)   The link: It does matter what people think about how the world works [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 12:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My God... it&#039;s full of straw-men!
:)

Somehow a statement about &quot;stong economy&quot; turned into &quot;balanced budget,&quot; and a statment about initial conditions turned into what&#039;s developed since.
Talk about magic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My God&#8230; it&#8217;s full of straw-men! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Somehow a statement about &#8220;stong economy&#8221; turned into &#8220;balanced budget,&#8221; and a statment about initial conditions turned into what&#8217;s developed since.<br />
Talk about magic!</p>
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		<title>By: Star Stryder &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Politics, Religion, Science and Tears- by Pamela L. Gay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/06/04/it-does-matter-what-people-think-about-how-the-world-works/comment-page-1/#comment-29136</link>
		<dc:creator>Star Stryder &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Politics, Religion, Science and Tears- by Pamela L. Gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 01:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post was inspired by a Cosmic Variance post. *Hayward, James L. (1998), The Creation/Evolution Controversy : an Annotated Bibliography, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] post was inspired by a Cosmic Variance post. *Hayward, James L. (1998), The Creation/Evolution Controversy : an Annotated Bibliography, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Count Iblis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Count Iblis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 21:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fourteen year old girl says to her parents who believe in the Virgin Birth of Jesus: &quot;I&#039;m pregnant, but I didn&#039;t have sex.&quot;

Parents reply: ...   :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fourteen year old girl says to her parents who believe in the Virgin Birth of Jesus: &#8220;I&#8217;m pregnant, but I didn&#8217;t have sex.&#8221;</p>
<p>Parents reply: &#8230;   <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Count Iblis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/06/04/it-does-matter-what-people-think-about-how-the-world-works/comment-page-1/#comment-29132</link>
		<dc:creator>Count Iblis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 21:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only saw small fragments of the debate. I was surprised about statements made by Ron Paul. He didn&#039;t sound like a Republican at all when he talked about Iraq, Iran etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only saw small fragments of the debate. I was surprised about statements made by Ron Paul. He didn&#8217;t sound like a Republican at all when he talked about Iraq, Iran etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 19:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s amazing how those Iraqis just keep greeting us and greeting us.  I don&#039;t know why people seem fixated on all those bombs and stuff.  I guess, with the budget having finally been brought into balance through the magic of tax cuts, they just need to find &lt;em&gt;something&lt;/em&gt; to complain about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s amazing how those Iraqis just keep greeting us and greeting us.  I don&#8217;t know why people seem fixated on all those bombs and stuff.  I guess, with the budget having finally been brought into balance through the magic of tax cuts, they just need to find <em>something</em> to complain about.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 19:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the subject of virgin birth:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/sex2.htm

On the idea that scientific propositions are never provably true or false: this is absolutely incorrect.  Hypotheses *must* be provably false; that is the primary mechanism of scientific inquiry.  It is the very fact that Mr. Brownback&#039;s statement is *not* provably false that makes it unscientific.

On policy:
1. cutting taxes not only *can* increase federal revenues, it quite provably has.  Additionally, our economy is stronger than ever, and our deficit tiny in comparison to our GNP (as opposed to, say, Japan, which runs at 100% of its GNP as deficit.)
2. The author demonstrates an interesting lapse in memory regarding how U. S. troops were, in fact, greeted by the Iraqis.  That is, *by invitation*.
3. I won&#039;t even begin on the topic of liberals and wishful thinking.

On the earlier post re: the Inquisition:  The Christian Church was actually quite open to scientific and philosophical investigation, *until it ran into an idea that could not be processed from its world-view*.  The Inquisition was a result of science-by-consensus, much like a 13th-century equivalent of the global-warming fearmongers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the subject of virgin birth:<br />
<a href="http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/sex2.htm" rel="nofollow">http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/sex2.htm</a></p>
<p>On the idea that scientific propositions are never provably true or false: this is absolutely incorrect.  Hypotheses *must* be provably false; that is the primary mechanism of scientific inquiry.  It is the very fact that Mr. Brownback&#8217;s statement is *not* provably false that makes it unscientific.</p>
<p>On policy:<br />
1. cutting taxes not only *can* increase federal revenues, it quite provably has.  Additionally, our economy is stronger than ever, and our deficit tiny in comparison to our GNP (as opposed to, say, Japan, which runs at 100% of its GNP as deficit.)<br />
2. The author demonstrates an interesting lapse in memory regarding how U. S. troops were, in fact, greeted by the Iraqis.  That is, *by invitation*.<br />
3. I won&#8217;t even begin on the topic of liberals and wishful thinking.</p>
<p>On the earlier post re: the Inquisition:  The Christian Church was actually quite open to scientific and philosophical investigation, *until it ran into an idea that could not be processed from its world-view*.  The Inquisition was a result of science-by-consensus, much like a 13th-century equivalent of the global-warming fearmongers.</p>
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		<title>By: Star Stryder &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Republicans and Creationism- by Pamela L. Gay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/06/04/it-does-matter-what-people-think-about-how-the-world-works/comment-page-1/#comment-29134</link>
		<dc:creator>Star Stryder &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Republicans and Creationism- by Pamela L. Gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 15:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There is a story over on Cosmic Variance that is a most read for anyone planning to vote or to try and influence someone&#8217;s vote in the U.S. 2008 presidential elections. To quote Sean: &#8220;It was an embarrassing moment in the first Republican presidential debate when the participants were asked, &quot;Does anyone not believe in evolution?&quot;, and three candidates â€&quot; Sam Brownback, Tom Tancredo, and Mike Huckabee â€&quot; raised their hands. Embarrassing for those three, obviously, but also for the Republican party, in which they are far from unrepresentative, and for the United States, that anyone would even think to ask such a question of serious candidates for the highest office in the land.&#8221; (Read entire story here) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There is a story over on Cosmic Variance that is a most read for anyone planning to vote or to try and influence someone&#8217;s vote in the U.S. 2008 presidential elections. To quote Sean: &#8220;It was an embarrassing moment in the first Republican presidential debate when the participants were asked, &#8220;Does anyone not believe in evolution?&#8221;, and three candidates â€&#8221; Sam Brownback, Tom Tancredo, and Mike Huckabee â€&#8221; raised their hands. Embarrassing for those three, obviously, but also for the Republican party, in which they are far from unrepresentative, and for the United States, that anyone would even think to ask such a question of serious candidates for the highest office in the land.&#8221; (Read entire story here) [...]</p>
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