Comments on: “Hmmm…that’s funny” http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/08/19/hmmmthats-funny/ Random samplings from a universe of ideas. Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:46:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Anne http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/08/19/hmmmthats-funny/#comment-31134 Anne Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:07:31 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/08/19/hmmmthats-funny/#comment-31134 Not exactly. Someone working for the Air Force discovered highly variable extrasolar radio sources, but it would have taken followup to know that they were pulsars - they did not observe the defining characteristic of pulsars, the coherent pulsations. I was actually at the talk, and it was fascinating, but let's not overstate the case. Certainly if Mr. Schisler had been working in a less secretive environment there's a good chance his persistence and care would have made him a codiscoverer of pulsars, but this mostly demonstrates how inimical secrecy is to scientific discovery. Not exactly. Someone working for the Air Force discovered highly variable extrasolar radio sources, but it would have taken followup to know that they were pulsars - they did not observe the defining characteristic of pulsars, the coherent pulsations.

I was actually at the talk, and it was fascinating, but let’s not overstate the case. Certainly if Mr. Schisler had been working in a less secretive environment there’s a good chance his persistence and care would have made him a codiscoverer of pulsars, but this mostly demonstrates how inimical secrecy is to scientific discovery.

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By: Maynard Handley http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/08/19/hmmmthats-funny/#comment-31132 Maynard Handley Tue, 21 Aug 2007 06:14:59 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/08/19/hmmmthats-funny/#comment-31132 If you don't publish you don't get credit. It's that simple. The US Air Force discovered NOTHING. And likewise for these claims the GCHQ "discovered" public key cryptography, and so on. Likewise for any commercial organization that never publishes. That's the way the system works, and it's a damn fine system. If you don’t publish you don’t get credit. It’s that simple.

The US Air Force discovered NOTHING. And likewise for these claims the GCHQ “discovered” public key cryptography, and so on. Likewise for any commercial organization that never publishes.

That’s the way the system works, and it’s a damn fine system.

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By: Michael T http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/08/19/hmmmthats-funny/#comment-31133 Michael T Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:10:08 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/08/19/hmmmthats-funny/#comment-31133 How wonderful, absolutely charmed by this unassuming and delightful man. How wonderful, absolutely charmed by this unassuming and delightful man.

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By: Anonymous http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/08/19/hmmmthats-funny/#comment-31131 Anonymous Sun, 19 Aug 2007 16:59:31 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/08/19/hmmmthats-funny/#comment-31131 Count Iblis: Yes who knows? Why the CIA? Why not the Russians? Or the Chinese? Count Iblis:
Yes who knows?
Why the CIA?
Why not the Russians?
Or the Chinese?

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By: Count Iblis http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/08/19/hmmmthats-funny/#comment-31129 Count Iblis Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:28:46 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/08/19/hmmmthats-funny/#comment-31129 Who knows? Perhaps they have discoverd axions and are using axion-photon conversions in strong magnetic fields (Primakoff effect) to communicate with submarines. The CIA may be using quantum computers to read RSA encripted messages. Who knows? Perhaps they have discoverd axions and are using axion-photon conversions in strong magnetic fields (Primakoff effect) to communicate with submarines.

The CIA may be using quantum computers to read RSA encripted messages.

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By: lake http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/08/19/hmmmthats-funny/#comment-31130 lake Sun, 19 Aug 2007 10:13:56 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/08/19/hmmmthats-funny/#comment-31130 Cool! This reminds me the classical story of GRB discovery! I wonder if the military "observers" could have made some other serendipitous findings as they might get special wavelength/spatial/time coverages that are inaccessible to civilians facilities ... Cool! This reminds me the classical story of GRB discovery! I wonder if the military “observers” could have made some other serendipitous findings as they might get special wavelength/spatial/time coverages that are inaccessible to civilians facilities …

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