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		<title>By: Count Iblis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/10/a-paper-crunch/comment-page-1/#comment-32013</link>
		<dc:creator>Count Iblis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neil, since a few years, many journals now also accept MSWord documents. Some journals require that you just send them a PDF or Postscript file.

But LaTeX is easy to learn. I wouldn&#039;t waste any money on programs that convert documents to LaTeX. I&#039;m not sure about the quality of the code you&#039;ll get that way. When I export the results of symbolic Mathematica  computations to TeX, I usually have to modify the LaTeX code by hand (to deal with linebreaks in equations etc.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil, since a few years, many journals now also accept MSWord documents. Some journals require that you just send them a PDF or Postscript file.</p>
<p>But LaTeX is easy to learn. I wouldn&#8217;t waste any money on programs that convert documents to LaTeX. I&#8217;m not sure about the quality of the code you&#8217;ll get that way. When I export the results of symbolic Mathematica  computations to TeX, I usually have to modify the LaTeX code by hand (to deal with linebreaks in equations etc.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/10/a-paper-crunch/comment-page-1/#comment-32012</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Yes. To a first approximation all theoretical physics papers are written in LaTeX.

2. Sorry, I don&#039;t know of a converter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Yes. To a first approximation all theoretical physics papers are written in LaTeX.</p>
<p>2. Sorry, I don&#8217;t know of a converter.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.  Is LaTeX still as important as it use to be?  I&#039;ve heard many say, it&#039;s OK now to send most papers in Word or PDF.  Of course it depends on who wants it, I&#039;m just looking for a scan of the patterns.

2.  I&#039;m looking for a good and cheap/free Word to LaTeX converter, that will take docs already done in Word with Equation Editor and convert to submission-grade LaTeX.  If I can&#039;t get the program, are there places that will convert.  Thanks for any suggestions.  Also, does Open Office latest version actually have built-in genuine LaTeX conversion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  Is LaTeX still as important as it use to be?  I&#8217;ve heard many say, it&#8217;s OK now to send most papers in Word or PDF.  Of course it depends on who wants it, I&#8217;m just looking for a scan of the patterns.</p>
<p>2.  I&#8217;m looking for a good and cheap/free Word to LaTeX converter, that will take docs already done in Word with Equation Editor and convert to submission-grade LaTeX.  If I can&#8217;t get the program, are there places that will convert.  Thanks for any suggestions.  Also, does Open Office latest version actually have built-in genuine LaTeX conversion?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas D</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/10/a-paper-crunch/comment-page-1/#comment-32011</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember reading somewhere (must have been while reviewing something for Phys Rev!) that papers that are just 4-page-long summaries of other papers by the same authors are not supposed to be suitable for PRL.

Now we all know tons of counterexamples ... so is this actually not a rule that PRL applies, is it just routinely ignored due to the overall benefit to all concerned of getting more things published in PRL, or what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember reading somewhere (must have been while reviewing something for Phys Rev!) that papers that are just 4-page-long summaries of other papers by the same authors are not supposed to be suitable for PRL.</p>
<p>Now we all know tons of counterexamples &#8230; so is this actually not a rule that PRL applies, is it just routinely ignored due to the overall benefit to all concerned of getting more things published in PRL, or what?</p>
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		<title>By: Count Iblis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/10/a-paper-crunch/comment-page-1/#comment-32008</link>
		<dc:creator>Count Iblis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 17:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve not experienced such long delays at all with PLB or any other Elsevier journals. I have to admit that I have only published (a few years ago) a few articles in these journals. My experience with the Physical review is also good, except for one case in which I had to transfer from PRL to PRD. The status report of that article:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
CURRENT STATUS OF MANUSCRIPT: Editorially approved for publication

CORRESPONDENCE:
SENT    RECEIVED    DESCRIPTION

06Jun05         Editorially approved for publication

        01Jun05 Communication (miscellaneous) received from author

23Dec04 05May05 Review request to referee; editor concludes response unlikely

        03May05 Communication (miscellaneous) received from author

23Dec04 31Jan05 Review request to referee; report received

12Jan05         Reminder to referee [others sent (not shown) at 1-2 week intervals]

12Jan05         Reminder to referee [others sent (not shown) at 1-2 week intervals]

03Jan05 04Jan05 Acknowledgment sent to author

22Dec04         Correspondence (miscellaneous) sent to author via email

22Dec04         Transferred from PRL to PRD

09Dec04 22Dec04 Ed. decision and/or ref.
comments to author; response rcvd

18Oct04 08Dec04 Review request to referee; editor concludes response unlikely

09Nov04 09Nov04 Reminder to referee; response received

29Sep04 08Nov04 Review request to referee; report received

29Sep04 02Nov04 Review request to referee; report received

21Oct04         Reminder to referee [others sent (not shown) at 1-2 week intervals]

21Oct04         Reminder to referee [others sent (not shown) at 1-2 week intervals]
18Oct04         Status update sent to author via email

01Oct04 13Oct04 Review request to referee; message received (not a report)

06Oct04         Correspondence (miscellaneous) sent to author via email

        05Oct04 Communication (miscellaneous) received from author

29Sep04 29Sep04 Review request to referee; message received (not a report)

24Sep04         Acknowledgment sent to author via email

20Sep04         Correspondence (miscellaneous) sent to author via email
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve not experienced such long delays at all with PLB or any other Elsevier journals. I have to admit that I have only published (a few years ago) a few articles in these journals. My experience with the Physical review is also good, except for one case in which I had to transfer from PRL to PRD. The status report of that article:</p>
<blockquote><p>
CURRENT STATUS OF MANUSCRIPT: Editorially approved for publication</p>
<p>CORRESPONDENCE:<br />
SENT    RECEIVED    DESCRIPTION</p>
<p>06Jun05         Editorially approved for publication</p>
<p>        01Jun05 Communication (miscellaneous) received from author</p>
<p>23Dec04 05May05 Review request to referee; editor concludes response unlikely</p>
<p>        03May05 Communication (miscellaneous) received from author</p>
<p>23Dec04 31Jan05 Review request to referee; report received</p>
<p>12Jan05         Reminder to referee [others sent (not shown) at 1-2 week intervals]</p>
<p>12Jan05         Reminder to referee [others sent (not shown) at 1-2 week intervals]</p>
<p>03Jan05 04Jan05 Acknowledgment sent to author</p>
<p>22Dec04         Correspondence (miscellaneous) sent to author via email</p>
<p>22Dec04         Transferred from PRL to PRD</p>
<p>09Dec04 22Dec04 Ed. decision and/or ref.<br />
comments to author; response rcvd</p>
<p>18Oct04 08Dec04 Review request to referee; editor concludes response unlikely</p>
<p>09Nov04 09Nov04 Reminder to referee; response received</p>
<p>29Sep04 08Nov04 Review request to referee; report received</p>
<p>29Sep04 02Nov04 Review request to referee; report received</p>
<p>21Oct04         Reminder to referee [others sent (not shown) at 1-2 week intervals]</p>
<p>21Oct04         Reminder to referee [others sent (not shown) at 1-2 week intervals]<br />
18Oct04         Status update sent to author via email</p>
<p>01Oct04 13Oct04 Review request to referee; message received (not a report)</p>
<p>06Oct04         Correspondence (miscellaneous) sent to author via email</p>
<p>        05Oct04 Communication (miscellaneous) received from author</p>
<p>29Sep04 29Sep04 Review request to referee; message received (not a report)</p>
<p>24Sep04         Acknowledgment sent to author via email</p>
<p>20Sep04         Correspondence (miscellaneous) sent to author via email
</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Belizean</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/10/a-paper-crunch/comment-page-1/#comment-31999</link>
		<dc:creator>Belizean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 19:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Physics Letters B isn’t that bad...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Only if you think that 11-month publication delays are acceptable.  This is not at all uncommon with them.  These delays are totally absurd for the short papers that they publish.

By contrast, it&#039;s fairly easy to get a &lt;i&gt;full-length&lt;/i&gt; paper published in Physical Review D within a couple of months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Physics Letters B isn’t that bad&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Only if you think that 11-month publication delays are acceptable.  This is not at all uncommon with them.  These delays are totally absurd for the short papers that they publish.</p>
<p>By contrast, it&#8217;s fairly easy to get a <i>full-length</i> paper published in Physical Review D within a couple of months.</p>
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		<title>By: Count Iblis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/10/a-paper-crunch/comment-page-1/#comment-32007</link>
		<dc:creator>Count Iblis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, I agree. I guess &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.math.rutgers.edu/~zeilberg/RefTipesh.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this is the exception that proves the rule&lt;/a&gt;  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, I agree. I guess <a href="http://www.math.rutgers.edu/~zeilberg/RefTipesh.html" rel="nofollow">this is the exception that proves the rule</a>  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure where we&#039;ll submit, but probably PRL and PRD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure where we&#8217;ll submit, but probably PRL and PRD.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Dick</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/10/a-paper-crunch/comment-page-1/#comment-32005</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Dick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I think there&#039;s bad experiences to be had all around.  My first scientific paper a couple years back was published in JCAP after a huge amount of headache (which my advisor and I believed was thoroughly unwarranted).  So I&#039;m not sure it would be valid to judge an entire journal on one bad experience.  The referees are, after all, individual scientists with their own opinions and biases, such that an otherwise good scientific journal may be rejected not because it lacks merit in what it attempts to do, but rather because the particular research the referee has focused on is somewhat different than the one the paper is focused on, resulting in misunderstandings that cause them to think the paper has less merit than it ought.

This is, I think, a necessary evil where scientific journals are concerned.  It is much better, I think, to err on the side of rejecting papers.  A good, valid scientific paper will be accepted eventually, after all.  A bit of headache on the part of good scientists is, I think, a fair price to pay to ensure that bad science doesn&#039;t attain respectability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think there&#8217;s bad experiences to be had all around.  My first scientific paper a couple years back was published in JCAP after a huge amount of headache (which my advisor and I believed was thoroughly unwarranted).  So I&#8217;m not sure it would be valid to judge an entire journal on one bad experience.  The referees are, after all, individual scientists with their own opinions and biases, such that an otherwise good scientific journal may be rejected not because it lacks merit in what it attempts to do, but rather because the particular research the referee has focused on is somewhat different than the one the paper is focused on, resulting in misunderstandings that cause them to think the paper has less merit than it ought.</p>
<p>This is, I think, a necessary evil where scientific journals are concerned.  It is much better, I think, to err on the side of rejecting papers.  A good, valid scientific paper will be accepted eventually, after all.  A bit of headache on the part of good scientists is, I think, a fair price to pay to ensure that bad science doesn&#8217;t attain respectability.</p>
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		<title>By: Count Iblis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/10/a-paper-crunch/comment-page-1/#comment-32004</link>
		<dc:creator>Count Iblis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JCAP or PRD?

The only problem I have with the Physical Review is that they are supposed to cover the entire field of (theoretical) physics (PRA --PRE + PRL), which includes mathematical physics. They once rejected my paper, saying that it was too specialized, suggesting that I publish it in a more specialized journal (on mathematical physics).

I ultimately did manage to get that paper published but it was repeatedly rejected from a few other journals on mathematical physics, mainly because it was written in a style more suitable for physics journals and not the more rigorous mathematical physics journals :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JCAP or PRD?</p>
<p>The only problem I have with the Physical Review is that they are supposed to cover the entire field of (theoretical) physics (PRA &#8211;PRE + PRL), which includes mathematical physics. They once rejected my paper, saying that it was too specialized, suggesting that I publish it in a more specialized journal (on mathematical physics).</p>
<p>I ultimately did manage to get that paper published but it was repeatedly rejected from a few other journals on mathematical physics, mainly because it was written in a style more suitable for physics journals and not the more rigorous mathematical physics journals <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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