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		<title>By: Daniel Harlow</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/11/facing-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-32020</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Harlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 06:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting how facebook has grown from a networking site for undergraduates at elite universities to encompass most schools in the country until now where anybody can join, student or not.  Honestly I&#039;m not sure that I&#039;m happy about cooresponding decrease in privacy though; I recall it being a comfort when I joined that only people with an email address at my school could see my page.  Of course you can still restrict your page in this manner if you choose to, but it to me it was that it was for students that made facebook special.  Now it is just turning into another myspace...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting how facebook has grown from a networking site for undergraduates at elite universities to encompass most schools in the country until now where anybody can join, student or not.  Honestly I&#8217;m not sure that I&#8217;m happy about cooresponding decrease in privacy though; I recall it being a comfort when I joined that only people with an email address at my school could see my page.  Of course you can still restrict your page in this manner if you choose to, but it to me it was that it was for students that made facebook special.  Now it is just turning into another myspace&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook &#171; Nerd Wisdom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facebook &#171; Nerd Wisdom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] me seriously underwhelmed), but a strange convergence of events made me reconsider. First, I read this post about Facebook at the excellent blog (run by six theoretical particle physicists and/or [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] me seriously underwhelmed), but a strange convergence of events made me reconsider. First, I read this post about Facebook at the excellent blog (run by six theoretical particle physicists and/or [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Valerie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/11/facing-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-32046</link>
		<dc:creator>Valerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Help me out with facebook etiquette. Should I be pleased or affronted when someone pokes me? Should I poke them back? And what about these superpoke applications that let you salute your friends in more imaginative ways? Chest bumping or high-fiving someone seems fine. But is spanking or bitchslapping a friend appropriate, especially if said friend is a work colleague? I think not. However a real-life and facebook friend disagrees, claiming it&#039;s only harmless fun. Who&#039;s right? At the publishing company where I work, our facebook activity is monitored so I simply cannot go round licking my friends ... as much as I might like to sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Help me out with facebook etiquette. Should I be pleased or affronted when someone pokes me? Should I poke them back? And what about these superpoke applications that let you salute your friends in more imaginative ways? Chest bumping or high-fiving someone seems fine. But is spanking or bitchslapping a friend appropriate, especially if said friend is a work colleague? I think not. However a real-life and facebook friend disagrees, claiming it&#8217;s only harmless fun. Who&#8217;s right? At the publishing company where I work, our facebook activity is monitored so I simply cannot go round licking my friends &#8230; as much as I might like to sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/11/facing-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-32045</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this &quot;what does a friend mean on facebook?&quot; conversation reminds me of the facebook group entitled, &quot;I gave you a night of passion, and all you gave me was this lousy friend request.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this &#8220;what does a friend mean on facebook?&#8221; conversation reminds me of the facebook group entitled, &#8220;I gave you a night of passion, and all you gave me was this lousy friend request.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let the facebook whoring begin (sigh)--sucks that even this haven has  now succumbed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let the facebook whoring begin (sigh)&#8211;sucks that even this haven has  now succumbed.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/11/facing-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-32028</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just made a facebook account a little while ago (been inactive mostly). What a great way to start my group memberships :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just made a facebook account a little while ago (been inactive mostly). What a great way to start my group memberships <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Brent V.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/11/facing-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-32044</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean, One of the aspects of starting this facebook group that you may have overlooked is the social network exposure you will bring to CV. For instance, when I join your group many of my friends will see that I joined (there is a news feed that tells your friends what you&#039;re up to on facebook). Being that many of my friends are also physicists, this might be a great way to increase readership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean, One of the aspects of starting this facebook group that you may have overlooked is the social network exposure you will bring to CV. For instance, when I join your group many of my friends will see that I joined (there is a news feed that tells your friends what you&#8217;re up to on facebook). Being that many of my friends are also physicists, this might be a great way to increase readership.</p>
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		<title>By: Amara</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/11/facing-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-32018</link>
		<dc:creator>Amara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 07:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean: There are twelve other Sean Carrolls in LinkedIn presently, but none of them are cosmologists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean: There are twelve other Sean Carrolls in LinkedIn presently, but none of them are cosmologists.</p>
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		<title>By: Nora</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/11/facing-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-32017</link>
		<dc:creator>Nora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 07:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Facebook sounds nice, unfortunately I can´t join because I´m from Finland and when I tried to registrate they didn´t accept the name of my school. Which wasn´t very surprising, but anyway I wasn´t able to registrate...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facebook sounds nice, unfortunately I can´t join because I´m from Finland and when I tried to registrate they didn´t accept the name of my school. Which wasn´t very surprising, but anyway I wasn´t able to registrate&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/11/facing-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-32043</link>
		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 02:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing like the real world.

Claire</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing like the real world.</p>
<p>Claire</p>
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		<title>By: Simon DeDeo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/11/facing-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-32042</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon DeDeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Facebook is kind of fun.

They are terrified of being cluttered up with spam, and so put restrictions on things (watch out -- if your group is more than 500 people, you will not be able to send &quot;updates&quot; to group members en masse.) They are really trying to figure out what they are doing, but they are being smart to a certain extent and avoiding some of the problems of the &quot;first generation&quot; of social network sites.

I admit I friended Peter Segal when I saw his name. He is so cool! I am also friends with Harold Bloom (although the profile is actually set up by bored Cambridge students.) These are things that push the system, and they make facebook nervous (ideally, if I were a Peter Segal fan, I would join the &quot;mellifluous tones of Peter Segal&quot; group.) Orkut was much more draconian about things (e.g., if your picture was not you, you were deleted), they kind of overreacted to the myspace phenom.

danah boyd, guru of these things has an article on class and facebook: http://www.danah.org/papers/essays/ClassDivisions.html (she is also mad at facebook because of the 500 people restriction I mention above -- partly because it&#039;s secret.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facebook is kind of fun.</p>
<p>They are terrified of being cluttered up with spam, and so put restrictions on things (watch out &#8212; if your group is more than 500 people, you will not be able to send &#8220;updates&#8221; to group members en masse.) They are really trying to figure out what they are doing, but they are being smart to a certain extent and avoiding some of the problems of the &#8220;first generation&#8221; of social network sites.</p>
<p>I admit I friended Peter Segal when I saw his name. He is so cool! I am also friends with Harold Bloom (although the profile is actually set up by bored Cambridge students.) These are things that push the system, and they make facebook nervous (ideally, if I were a Peter Segal fan, I would join the &#8220;mellifluous tones of Peter Segal&#8221; group.) Orkut was much more draconian about things (e.g., if your picture was not you, you were deleted), they kind of overreacted to the myspace phenom.</p>
<p>danah boyd, guru of these things has an article on class and facebook: <a href="http://www.danah.org/papers/essays/ClassDivisions.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.danah.org/papers/essays/ClassDivisions.html</a> (she is also mad at facebook because of the 500 people restriction I mention above &#8212; partly because it&#8217;s secret.)</p>
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		<title>By: Yvette</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/11/facing-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-32041</link>
		<dc:creator>Yvette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*sigh*

For the old fogies who are just jumping on the bandwagon and too lazy to ask their students, the point of Facebook and Facebook friends isn&#039;t as much who counts your official definition of &quot;friend&quot; as much as it&#039;s a good way to find information about someone rather quickly.  Need a cell phone number, or wonder if that cute guy in class is in a relationship, or a myriad of other things?  You check out their profile.  Granted, unless you&#039;re stupid this means you make sure your pictures don&#039;t show you engaging in underage drinking, but hey this is the Internet.

I will, by the way, encourage any university professors here to not search their name to see if a Facebook group has been set up about them, particularly in their university network.  Chances are there is one, perhaps with a name like &quot;[instructor] is a spherical cow&quot; &quot;@#$@$-face [instructor]&quot;, so you might be better to steer clear of that.

Oh, and Facebook also means poking.  How come no one else has mentioned poking yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*sigh*</p>
<p>For the old fogies who are just jumping on the bandwagon and too lazy to ask their students, the point of Facebook and Facebook friends isn&#8217;t as much who counts your official definition of &#8220;friend&#8221; as much as it&#8217;s a good way to find information about someone rather quickly.  Need a cell phone number, or wonder if that cute guy in class is in a relationship, or a myriad of other things?  You check out their profile.  Granted, unless you&#8217;re stupid this means you make sure your pictures don&#8217;t show you engaging in underage drinking, but hey this is the Internet.</p>
<p>I will, by the way, encourage any university professors here to not search their name to see if a Facebook group has been set up about them, particularly in their university network.  Chances are there is one, perhaps with a name like &#8220;[instructor] is a spherical cow&#8221; &#8220;@#$@$-face [instructor]&#8220;, so you might be better to steer clear of that.</p>
<p>Oh, and Facebook also means poking.  How come no one else has mentioned poking yet?</p>
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		<title>By: alpinekat</title>
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		<dc:creator>alpinekat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with bswift.  That robot-hunter gave a pretty solid list of &quot;facebook friend&quot; categories, if a bit on the negative side.

&quot;Reject&quot; is such a harsh word.  I wonder if the designers chose it to encourage interconnection...nah, it&#039;s probably just a convenient antonym to &quot;accept.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with bswift.  That robot-hunter gave a pretty solid list of &#8220;facebook friend&#8221; categories, if a bit on the negative side.</p>
<p>&#8220;Reject&#8221; is such a harsh word.  I wonder if the designers chose it to encourage interconnection&#8230;nah, it&#8217;s probably just a convenient antonym to &#8220;accept.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Amara</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/11/facing-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-32019</link>
		<dc:creator>Amara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much of what I&#039;ve heard here sounds like orkut. A friend told me that Google will integrate all that they have done for &#039;socialstream&#039; (which I never heard of), and the orkut interface already has a different look, so my guess is they will compete directly with facebook very soon. But maybe it is too late and facebook has the momentum?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much of what I&#8217;ve heard here sounds like orkut. A friend told me that Google will integrate all that they have done for &#8216;socialstream&#8217; (which I never heard of), and the orkut interface already has a different look, so my guess is they will compete directly with facebook very soon. But maybe it is too late and facebook has the momentum?</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean - Like you, I was a social network holdout.  But Facebook&#039;s willingness to open up their api so outside developers can build applications is what sold me.  In that way, my page can be a one-stop shop for all things me.  My (occasional) blogging, my delicious bookmarks, my twitter feed, etc. can all appear on my profile.  That way, my Facebook page can always be updating without me ever logging on.  That, as Martha would say, is a good thing.

As for &quot;who&#039;s a friend&quot;, that brilliant little gmail trick told me that my landlord has a facebook page - prompting the question is he to be marked friend or foe?  Which in turn led me to the idea that will surely make me a million dollars:  an anti social networking site where you list your enemies, rivals, and nemeses.

And finally, LinkedIn is pretty great - but unlike Amara, I&#039;ve had no job offers.... yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean &#8211; Like you, I was a social network holdout.  But Facebook&#8217;s willingness to open up their api so outside developers can build applications is what sold me.  In that way, my page can be a one-stop shop for all things me.  My (occasional) blogging, my delicious bookmarks, my twitter feed, etc. can all appear on my profile.  That way, my Facebook page can always be updating without me ever logging on.  That, as Martha would say, is a good thing.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;who&#8217;s a friend&#8221;, that brilliant little gmail trick told me that my landlord has a facebook page &#8211; prompting the question is he to be marked friend or foe?  Which in turn led me to the idea that will surely make me a million dollars:  an anti social networking site where you list your enemies, rivals, and nemeses.</p>
<p>And finally, LinkedIn is pretty great &#8211; but unlike Amara, I&#8217;ve had no job offers&#8230;. yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Amara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an orkut presence, and I was using it for social reasons (not much time lately, though). For those who have tried both, what is the difference between orkut and facebook?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an orkut presence, and I was using it for social reasons (not much time lately, though). For those who have tried both, what is the difference between orkut and facebook?</p>
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		<title>By: bswift</title>
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		<dc:creator>bswift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my favorite post on types of Facebook friends:

http://inquestoftherobot.blogspot.com/2007/06/and-there-go-all-my-friends-revoking-my.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my favorite post on types of Facebook friends:</p>
<p><a href="http://inquestoftherobot.blogspot.com/2007/06/and-there-go-all-my-friends-revoking-my.html" rel="nofollow">http://inquestoftherobot.blogspot.com/2007/06/and-there-go-all-my-friends-revoking-my.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amara, you&#039;re not the only one who has recommended LinkedIn.  It seems a bit more serious, for people who want business contacts rather than just to keep in touch.

I&#039;m still a tiny bit reluctant to classify &quot;anyone who has heard of me&quot; as a &quot;friend,&quot; even in the Facebook sense.  But heck, I was born before we landed on the Moon, so I might be out of step here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amara, you&#8217;re not the only one who has recommended LinkedIn.  It seems a bit more serious, for people who want business contacts rather than just to keep in touch.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still a tiny bit reluctant to classify &#8220;anyone who has heard of me&#8221; as a &#8220;friend,&#8221; even in the Facebook sense.  But heck, I was born before we landed on the Moon, so I might be out of step here.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Fitzsimons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Fitzsimons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erik: It&#039;s surprisingly easy to accumulate a large number of &#039;friends&#039; on facebook who you are actually friends with, particularly if you are from a generation where a lot of people use it.

I currently have 107 friends listed, and all but 1 are actually friends. The reason for the large number is that quite often friends with whom you&#039;d lost touch (school friends, university friends etc.) get back in contact by finding you on facebook.

I do find it a little odd to friend someone with whom you&#039;ve had no contact. I have made one exception though, for a guy who shares my last name and explained that he was trying to befriend all the Fitzsimons on facebook. Seemed reasonable...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erik: It&#8217;s surprisingly easy to accumulate a large number of &#8216;friends&#8217; on facebook who you are actually friends with, particularly if you are from a generation where a lot of people use it.</p>
<p>I currently have 107 friends listed, and all but 1 are actually friends. The reason for the large number is that quite often friends with whom you&#8217;d lost touch (school friends, university friends etc.) get back in contact by finding you on facebook.</p>
<p>I do find it a little odd to friend someone with whom you&#8217;ve had no contact. I have made one exception though, for a guy who shares my last name and explained that he was trying to befriend all the Fitzsimons on facebook. Seemed reasonable&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: daisy rose</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/11/facing-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-32027</link>
		<dc:creator>daisy rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed on my face book page that a lot of my friends (20 total)  have only one friend -  that is so sad ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed on my face book page that a lot of my friends (20 total)  have only one friend &#8211;  that is so sad ?</p>
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