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	<title>Comments on: Unsolicited Advice, IV:  How to Be a Good Graduate Student</title>
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		<title>By: Unsolicited Advice, Volume I &#171; The First Excited State</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unsolicited Advice, Volume I &#171; The First Excited State</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Unsolicited Advice, Volume&#160;I   Published September 2, 2009   Math , Opinion , Physics Leave a&#160;Comment Tags: Advice, Math, Physics      So you want to be a physicist?  Hey, me too!  While I don&#8217;t know everything there is to know about getting there, I might be farther along than you are, and have some wisdom that I&#8217;ve accrued along the way that I can impart to you, even though you never asked for it.  Hence, this series of Unsolicited Advice.  (I would be remiss if I didn&#8217;t mention the inspiration I got from Cosmic Variance.  Plus I borrowed stole the name.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Unsolicited Advice, Volume&nbsp;I   Published September 2, 2009   Math , Opinion , Physics Leave a&nbsp;Comment Tags: Advice, Math, Physics      So you want to be a physicist?  Hey, me too!  While I don&#8217;t know everything there is to know about getting there, I might be farther along than you are, and have some wisdom that I&#8217;ve accrued along the way that I can impart to you, even though you never asked for it.  Hence, this series of Unsolicited Advice.  (I would be remiss if I didn&#8217;t mention the inspiration I got from Cosmic Variance.  Plus I borrowed stole the name.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Career advice for the (would-be) graduate students &#171; Academic Career Links</title>
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		<dc:creator>Career advice for the (would-be) graduate students &#171; Academic Career Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] advice here, and there is a whole new blog on the subject. As for the physics students, go here. See also my earlier posts, especially here and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Unsolicited Advice, Part Nine: Choosing a Postdoc &#124; Cosmic Variance &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unsolicited Advice, Part Nine: Choosing a Postdoc &#124; Cosmic Variance &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that in mind, recall that our advice for being a good grad student was to &#8220;Be the kind of grad student that people would like to hire as a postdoc.&#8221; Guess [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Grad School Open Thread &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grad School Open Thread &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] well. If you go to someplace that is decent enough to offer opportunities, it will be up to you to take the initiative and make your time there a [...]</description>
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		<dc:creator>????????? &#124; ?? &#171; kakyo reads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ??????? cosmicvariance.com ????&quot;????????Unsolicited Advice?&quot;????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????&#8212;&#8212;-??10?6? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: NYNG????? &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ???????</title>
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		<dc:creator>NYNG????? &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ???????</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cosmic Variance ????? Unsolicited Advice???????????????????????????????????????? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#62;&#62;DigitalPig Oversea&#60;&#60; &#187; ?????????</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 01:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Unsolicited Advice, IV: How to Be a Good Graduate Student &#124; Cosmic Variance [...]</description>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-10-20 at ???? - V12N</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Unsolicited Advice, IV: How to Be a Good Graduate Student &#124; Cosmic Variance (tags: paper academic science) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 3monkeys</title>
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		<dc:creator>3monkeys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 07:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The whole point of being a scientist is, indeed, writing papers and giving talks.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

... and of course writing grants rounds out the top three.</description>
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<p>&#8230; and of course writing grants rounds out the top three.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 05:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that telling grad students to take initiative in grad school is a bit late. They ought to be doing things such as knocking on faculty doors, finding research and going to seminars as undergrads.

Not only will this get them used to taking the initiative when they get to grad school, but hopefully it&#039;ll help with the advisor search.

Mind you, I&#039;m in astro, so it&#039;s slightly different but I started with research between my freshman and sophomore years of undergrad. That in turn got me publications (yay, always good, including one first author pub my sophomore year) and experience which got me jobs which then got me into grad school with a topic and an advisor. My working during undergrad for various different people (whilst sticking with my official research advisor whom I loved as a mentor) also let me know the type of advisor I can do well with- the kind that is generally hands off, but is there when I finally say &quot;Enough! I&#039;ve been trying to figure out this problem and I&#039;ve google-whacked, emailed people, talked with people and I&#039;ll be buggered if I can find anything that might help.&quot;

And I&#039;d like to say that in the &quot;be like a postdoc you&#039;d want to hire
&quot; and &quot;be a finisher&quot; sections should perhaps mention proposals. Much as we may not like to admit it, the holy NSF/NASA/DOE/DOD grant money, is what funds much of the sciences. Writing proposals can always be a trying experience, however doing them before your last year of your grad career get you so much more experience in writing and have the chance to improve before your funding depends on you being able to secure it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that telling grad students to take initiative in grad school is a bit late. They ought to be doing things such as knocking on faculty doors, finding research and going to seminars as undergrads.</p>
<p>Not only will this get them used to taking the initiative when they get to grad school, but hopefully it&#8217;ll help with the advisor search.</p>
<p>Mind you, I&#8217;m in astro, so it&#8217;s slightly different but I started with research between my freshman and sophomore years of undergrad. That in turn got me publications (yay, always good, including one first author pub my sophomore year) and experience which got me jobs which then got me into grad school with a topic and an advisor. My working during undergrad for various different people (whilst sticking with my official research advisor whom I loved as a mentor) also let me know the type of advisor I can do well with- the kind that is generally hands off, but is there when I finally say &#8220;Enough! I&#8217;ve been trying to figure out this problem and I&#8217;ve google-whacked, emailed people, talked with people and I&#8217;ll be buggered if I can find anything that might help.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I&#8217;d like to say that in the &#8220;be like a postdoc you&#8217;d want to hire<br />
&#8221; and &#8220;be a finisher&#8221; sections should perhaps mention proposals. Much as we may not like to admit it, the holy NSF/NASA/DOE/DOD grant money, is what funds much of the sciences. Writing proposals can always be a trying experience, however doing them before your last year of your grad career get you so much more experience in writing and have the chance to improve before your funding depends on you being able to secure it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Carpenter</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/26/unsolicited-advice-iv-how-to-be-a-good-graduate-student/comment-page-1/#comment-32393</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Carpenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, students have a hard time understanding most of this advice due to their perspective.  The day-to-day demands on them (e.g. TA-ing, RA-ing, passing classes and exams) are very unlike what they need to deliver to succeed in the long term (i.e. research).  In this way, being a student is just like being a faculty member.  And this is where both students and faculty need to take the initiative in doing research, even if it means lowering other priorities.

I can clarify a bit about the hot topic issue.  What I always told students was that they had to define their problem narrowly enough that by the time they were done with their thesis, they knew more than anyone else in the world about their topic.   The thesis topic also has to be couched in the form of a problem that admits of a solution (that is, a hypothesis), not in the form of a research area.

Generally, finding something about which to be the expert means choosing a topic that&#039;s much narrower than the student would like.  The trick then is to situate the narrow project as part of a bigger, longer-term project.  Some professors are geniuses at pulling together small projects into empires.  That management role of seeing the big picture is much more important than students usually think, particularly in raising funding.

The missing piece of advice here is collaboration.  The best scientists I know all collaborate heavily.  I used to let students collaborate on any course work they did as long as they cited who did what.  That&#039;s what the real world of science is like.  Collaboration is particularly useful if there&#039;s a mismatch in skills, such as writing, solving particular kinds of equations, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, students have a hard time understanding most of this advice due to their perspective.  The day-to-day demands on them (e.g. TA-ing, RA-ing, passing classes and exams) are very unlike what they need to deliver to succeed in the long term (i.e. research).  In this way, being a student is just like being a faculty member.  And this is where both students and faculty need to take the initiative in doing research, even if it means lowering other priorities.</p>
<p>I can clarify a bit about the hot topic issue.  What I always told students was that they had to define their problem narrowly enough that by the time they were done with their thesis, they knew more than anyone else in the world about their topic.   The thesis topic also has to be couched in the form of a problem that admits of a solution (that is, a hypothesis), not in the form of a research area.</p>
<p>Generally, finding something about which to be the expert means choosing a topic that&#8217;s much narrower than the student would like.  The trick then is to situate the narrow project as part of a bigger, longer-term project.  Some professors are geniuses at pulling together small projects into empires.  That management role of seeing the big picture is much more important than students usually think, particularly in raising funding.</p>
<p>The missing piece of advice here is collaboration.  The best scientists I know all collaborate heavily.  I used to let students collaborate on any course work they did as long as they cited who did what.  That&#8217;s what the real world of science is like.  Collaboration is particularly useful if there&#8217;s a mismatch in skills, such as writing, solving particular kinds of equations, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 04:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wish I had read this in grad school. Would have been useful. Or rather, wish I had had an advisor who spoke the truth to me like that. I think I just didn&#039;t quite &quot;get it&quot; about how grad school worked and how important it was choosing an advisor, etc... Good tips for the next generation Sean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish I had read this in grad school. Would have been useful. Or rather, wish I had had an advisor who spoke the truth to me like that. I think I just didn&#8217;t quite &#8220;get it&#8221; about how grad school worked and how important it was choosing an advisor, etc&#8230; Good tips for the next generation Sean.</p>
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		<title>By: Conform at Freedom of Science</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conform at Freedom of Science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 02:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] picture of scholastic physics described here by an insider under the guise of giving advice reveals that physics is another name of the old [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Count Iblis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/09/26/unsolicited-advice-iv-how-to-be-a-good-graduate-student/comment-page-1/#comment-32390</link>
		<dc:creator>Count Iblis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 01:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/plagiarism-and-falsified-data-slip-into-the-scientific-literature.ars&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How Not to Be a Good Graduate Student&lt;/a&gt;  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/plagiarism-and-falsified-data-slip-into-the-scientific-literature.ars" rel="nofollow">How Not to Be a Good Graduate Student</a>  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: amused</title>
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		<dc:creator>amused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 07:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another piece of advice (which I had to learn the hard way): don&#039;t underestimate the importance of personal relationships. A common theme in pretty much all the cases I know of where people succeeded in academia, and which came through repeatedly in various events I attended where folks who had made it in academia told us how they did it, was that they all had wonderfully supportive relationships with their phd advisors and postdoc mentors. And how to achieve such relationships? Well, as best I can tell, the trick is to make yourself useful to these people and work for the greater glory of their research programs. Make them feel that you are continuing their academic lineage. Don&#039;t start going off in directions of your own! Developing your own research program can be fun and personally satisfying, but to get good postdoc jobs, and even more so for getting a faculty job, it is crucial that you have the strong support of influential senior people, and generally you won&#039;t get this unless they have something personal at stake in whether you suceed or not. Don&#039;t be so naive as to think that you can make up for the absence of such support by publishing papers on your own in PRL or doing other things to justify your own research program. People might say nice things about it, but the bottom line is that if they don&#039;t have anything personal at stake in it then they won&#039;t really care what happens to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another piece of advice (which I had to learn the hard way): don&#8217;t underestimate the importance of personal relationships. A common theme in pretty much all the cases I know of where people succeeded in academia, and which came through repeatedly in various events I attended where folks who had made it in academia told us how they did it, was that they all had wonderfully supportive relationships with their phd advisors and postdoc mentors. And how to achieve such relationships? Well, as best I can tell, the trick is to make yourself useful to these people and work for the greater glory of their research programs. Make them feel that you are continuing their academic lineage. Don&#8217;t start going off in directions of your own! Developing your own research program can be fun and personally satisfying, but to get good postdoc jobs, and even more so for getting a faculty job, it is crucial that you have the strong support of influential senior people, and generally you won&#8217;t get this unless they have something personal at stake in whether you suceed or not. Don&#8217;t be so naive as to think that you can make up for the absence of such support by publishing papers on your own in PRL or doing other things to justify your own research program. People might say nice things about it, but the bottom line is that if they don&#8217;t have anything personal at stake in it then they won&#8217;t really care what happens to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Marvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 22:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The purpose of a scientist is to write &#039;good&#039; papers. Where &#039;good&#039; means papers that solve(try to solve)  well-motivated problems, are well-researched and contribute to the quest of understanding nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The purpose of a scientist is to write &#8216;good&#8217; papers. Where &#8216;good&#8217; means papers that solve(try to solve)  well-motivated problems, are well-researched and contribute to the quest of understanding nature.</p>
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		<title>By: mark stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your views about becoming successful. Don&#039;t just stick to one road because there are many other roads that will take you there.

-Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your views about becoming successful. Don&#8217;t just stick to one road because there are many other roads that will take you there.</p>
<p>-Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the writing papers and giving talks stuff: Science is a group enterprise.  If you do great work but can&#039;t communicate your results to anyone, it&#039;s like you didn&#039;t do it.  That said, there are two more things:

(1) Writing and giving talks are skills that you learn just like doing physics problem sets is a skill, only they&#039;re open-ended and require initiative.  Before you&#039;ve learned them well, you&#039;ll be uncomfortable with them; that&#039;s normal.  Grad students don&#039;t like giving talks because they have to get up in front of profs and might embarrass themselves.  Okay, but they have to learn to get over that.  Talking in front of grad-student-only audiences is a good way to do that.

(2) It is sort of possible to do science without writing papers and giving talks.  You can work in a research group on a project that somebody else directs, in a more technical capacity: writing software, building instruments, doing lab work, and so on.  You won&#039;t be independent or self-guided.  But even then, you&#039;ll find that you may have to write internal reports, give talks within the group, and so on.  You can&#039;t be an effective research professor or PI if you don&#039;t write papers, proposals, and grants, and give talks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the writing papers and giving talks stuff: Science is a group enterprise.  If you do great work but can&#8217;t communicate your results to anyone, it&#8217;s like you didn&#8217;t do it.  That said, there are two more things:</p>
<p>(1) Writing and giving talks are skills that you learn just like doing physics problem sets is a skill, only they&#8217;re open-ended and require initiative.  Before you&#8217;ve learned them well, you&#8217;ll be uncomfortable with them; that&#8217;s normal.  Grad students don&#8217;t like giving talks because they have to get up in front of profs and might embarrass themselves.  Okay, but they have to learn to get over that.  Talking in front of grad-student-only audiences is a good way to do that.</p>
<p>(2) It is sort of possible to do science without writing papers and giving talks.  You can work in a research group on a project that somebody else directs, in a more technical capacity: writing software, building instruments, doing lab work, and so on.  You won&#8217;t be independent or self-guided.  But even then, you&#8217;ll find that you may have to write internal reports, give talks within the group, and so on.  You can&#8217;t be an effective research professor or PI if you don&#8217;t write papers, proposals, and grants, and give talks.</p>
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		<title>By: Burzycki.org &#187; Astrosphere for September 26th, 2007</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burzycki.org &#187; Astrosphere for September 26th, 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 06:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] burn? Astronomy.com is reporting that a large metal meteorite is up for sale. Cosmic Variance has some good advice to would-be graduate students. Here&#039;s how to survive and thrive that grueling educational period. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] burn? Astronomy.com is reporting that a large metal meteorite is up for sale. Cosmic Variance has some good advice to would-be graduate students. Here&#8217;s how to survive and thrive that grueling educational period. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Julianne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Go skiing mid-week when there’s fresh powder and no lift-lines. Use profanity when you TA a lab section. Sign up for a conference just because it’s in an exotic location. Play foosball–everyday. Drink.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think you have just described 90% of the UW Astro grads.

(Note that I think this is a good thing.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Go skiing mid-week when there’s fresh powder and no lift-lines. Use profanity when you TA a lab section. Sign up for a conference just because it’s in an exotic location. Play foosball–everyday. Drink.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think you have just described 90% of the UW Astro grads.</p>
<p>(Note that I think this is a good thing.)</p>
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