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	<title>Comments on: reCAPTCHA</title>
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		<title>By: Thomas D</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/11/12/recaptcha/comment-page-1/#comment-33618</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... the portion of aged text is ungrammatical. It has a singular subject (portion) and a plural verb (were).

Otherwise, excellent idea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; the portion of aged text is ungrammatical. It has a singular subject (portion) and a plural verb (were).</p>
<p>Otherwise, excellent idea!</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/11/12/recaptcha/comment-page-1/#comment-33628</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 02:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea of the reCAPTCHA is compelling.

Yet, a problem I have with CAPTCHAS in general, is there burden to users of websites. So I&#039;m interested is ways of increasing security, without burdening people with task such as filling in a CAPTCHA form.

On such technique is a simple client honeypot (a spammer trap) that creates a CAPTCHA, or other form field, that is invisible to the website user. The spam bot, howevers, &quot;sees &quot; and tries to fill in the honeypot field. If the invisible field is filed in, then, the website knows that its a spammer or other bot hacker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea of the reCAPTCHA is compelling.</p>
<p>Yet, a problem I have with CAPTCHAS in general, is there burden to users of websites. So I&#8217;m interested is ways of increasing security, without burdening people with task such as filling in a CAPTCHA form.</p>
<p>On such technique is a simple client honeypot (a spammer trap) that creates a CAPTCHA, or other form field, that is invisible to the website user. The spam bot, howevers, &#8220;sees &#8221; and tries to fill in the honeypot field. If the invisible field is filed in, then, the website knows that its a spammer or other bot hacker.</p>
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		<title>By: Only Humans Allowed To Comment &#124; Karol Krizka</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/11/12/recaptcha/comment-page-1/#comment-33614</link>
		<dc:creator>Only Humans Allowed To Comment &#124; Karol Krizka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] modification of it called reCAPTCHA. Sean at the Cosmic Variance blog wrote a great description of how reCAPTCHA works, but let me reiterate it in a few less words. The creator of CAPTCHA, Luis von Ahn, realized the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] modification of it called reCAPTCHA. Sean at the Cosmic Variance blog wrote a great description of how reCAPTCHA works, but let me reiterate it in a few less words. The creator of CAPTCHA, Luis von Ahn, realized the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/11/12/recaptcha/comment-page-1/#comment-33615</link>
		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Moshe,

Thanks, that&#039;s a nice article indeed. (I had no clue where the word spam comes from!) Well, I guess I&#039;d just take all sites that are advertised in spam mails off the name servers, until they&#039;ve proven it was a mistake. End of problem. There&#039;s a slight chance one or the other site might temporarily be unavailable accidentally, but this seems to me like a price I&#039;d be willing to pay. Just the mere existence of such a procedure would make a big difference.

Best,

B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Moshe,</p>
<p>Thanks, that&#8217;s a nice article indeed. (I had no clue where the word spam comes from!) Well, I guess I&#8217;d just take all sites that are advertised in spam mails off the name servers, until they&#8217;ve proven it was a mistake. End of problem. There&#8217;s a slight chance one or the other site might temporarily be unavailable accidentally, but this seems to me like a price I&#8217;d be willing to pay. Just the mere existence of such a procedure would make a big difference.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>B.</p>
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		<title>By: kryptos. libertas. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; reCAPTCHA</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/11/12/recaptcha/comment-page-1/#comment-33616</link>
		<dc:creator>kryptos. libertas. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; reCAPTCHA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why not make CAPTCHAs useful? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Why not make CAPTCHAs useful? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Moshe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/11/12/recaptcha/comment-page-1/#comment-33627</link>
		<dc:creator>Moshe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B., spam is illegal but enforcement is a serious issue. Look at

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/08/06/070806fa_fact_specter

for an interesting take on the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B., spam is illegal but enforcement is a serious issue. Look at</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/08/06/070806fa_fact_specter" rel="nofollow">http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/08/06/070806fa_fact_specter</a></p>
<p>for an interesting take on the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/11/12/recaptcha/comment-page-1/#comment-33613</link>
		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Needless to say, the actual problem is spam, which is - either way you turn it - an enormous waste of time and energy. It is a mystery to me why it is still legal, given the inconveniences it causes for servers and IT staff all around the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Needless to say, the actual problem is spam, which is &#8211; either way you turn it &#8211; an enormous waste of time and energy. It is a mystery to me why it is still legal, given the inconveniences it causes for servers and IT staff all around the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Arnold &#187; Blog Archive &#187; reCAPTCHA</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/11/12/recaptcha/comment-page-1/#comment-33626</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Arnold &#187; Blog Archive &#187; reCAPTCHA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a really cool idea:  reCAPTCHA. It&#8217;s a system which &#8220;takes scanned images from actual books, with which optical [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a really cool idea:  reCAPTCHA. It&#8217;s a system which &#8220;takes scanned images from actual books, with which optical [...]</p>
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		<title>By: No Football &#171; blueollie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/11/12/recaptcha/comment-page-1/#comment-33620</link>
		<dc:creator>No Football &#171; blueollie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] when they are typeset in a particular way, whereas humans have no trouble. Cosmic Variance talks about this here. It is a short but delightful [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] when they are typeset in a particular way, whereas humans have no trouble. Cosmic Variance talks about this here. It is a short but delightful [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lab Lemming</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/11/12/recaptcha/comment-page-1/#comment-33617</link>
		<dc:creator>Lab Lemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So how do we get Google or (insert favorite mega commercial blog host here) to use this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how do we get Google or (insert favorite mega commercial blog host here) to use this?</p>
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		<title>By: archgoon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/11/12/recaptcha/comment-page-1/#comment-33625</link>
		<dc:creator>archgoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and to guarantee that the user didn&#039;t make a mistake, multiple people can be given the same unknown one for confirmation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and to guarantee that the user didn&#8217;t make a mistake, multiple people can be given the same unknown one for confirmation.</p>
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		<title>By: archgoon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/11/12/recaptcha/comment-page-1/#comment-33624</link>
		<dc:creator>archgoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dibyadeep, note in the image, you&#039;ve got two words. One word is a known, generated CAPTCHA, which ensures that the input is coming from a human, the other is an unknown word, which is the one we want to decipher. The user doesn&#039;t know which is the CAPTCHA, and which is the generated source (actually, this only matters if the user is pathological), so answers both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dibyadeep, note in the image, you&#8217;ve got two words. One word is a known, generated CAPTCHA, which ensures that the input is coming from a human, the other is an unknown word, which is the one we want to decipher. The user doesn&#8217;t know which is the CAPTCHA, and which is the generated source (actually, this only matters if the user is pathological), so answers both.</p>
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		<title>By: dibyadeep</title>
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		<dc:creator>dibyadeep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont really understand how it might help decipher old writing from a book. If you use these then people might as well type anything to get through, how would the computer know in the first place, what the actual word is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont really understand how it might help decipher old writing from a book. If you use these then people might as well type anything to get through, how would the computer know in the first place, what the actual word is?</p>
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		<title>By: archgoon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/11/12/recaptcha/comment-page-1/#comment-33623</link>
		<dc:creator>archgoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, that&#039;s the reason for two. Gotcha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, that&#8217;s the reason for two. Gotcha.</p>
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		<title>By: archgoon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/11/12/recaptcha/comment-page-1/#comment-33622</link>
		<dc:creator>archgoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, there seems to be a bit of missing information. How do they determine that the answer has been correctly entered? If you are using the CAPTCHA to figure out what the CAPTCHA says, how do you know that they got the right answer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, there seems to be a bit of missing information. How do they determine that the answer has been correctly entered? If you are using the CAPTCHA to figure out what the CAPTCHA says, how do you know that they got the right answer?</p>
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		<title>By: Tristram Brelstaff</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/11/12/recaptcha/comment-page-1/#comment-33621</link>
		<dc:creator>Tristram Brelstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7067962.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Apparently&lt;/a&gt; spammers are already using a variant of this idea to automate the breaking of captchas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7067962.stm" rel="nofollow">Apparently</a> spammers are already using a variant of this idea to automate the breaking of captchas.</p>
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