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		<title>By: Neil B.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/12/14/holy-crap/comment-page-1/#comment-35171</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 03:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean was prescient.  Here are the latest historic results, close to being final figures:

Obama 37.53; Edwards 29.88; Clinton 29.41
Huckabee 34; Romney 25; Thompson 14; McCain 13%; Paul 10%

I wish Obama the best of luck from now on, but I am still not sure who is best.  He will need to stand up under closer scrutiny now, and must show more defining substance.  Winning this means being more than boy wonder now.

As for Huckabee, how interesting.  See what Andrew Sullivan has to say about all that, at http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean was prescient.  Here are the latest historic results, close to being final figures:</p>
<p>Obama 37.53; Edwards 29.88; Clinton 29.41<br />
Huckabee 34; Romney 25; Thompson 14; McCain 13%; Paul 10%</p>
<p>I wish Obama the best of luck from now on, but I am still not sure who is best.  He will need to stand up under closer scrutiny now, and must show more defining substance.  Winning this means being more than boy wonder now.</p>
<p>As for Huckabee, how interesting.  See what Andrew Sullivan has to say about all that, at <a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/" rel="nofollow">http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: The Almighty Bob</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/12/14/holy-crap/comment-page-1/#comment-35167</link>
		<dc:creator>The Almighty Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 23:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was being too clever by half; I was thinking of the complexity that would be engendered in indexing by differentiation, rather than doing the heavy lifting in the application. Dumb of me. That&#039;ll teach me not to post before coffee.

The complexity of taking a page of Google results and running a character match on it ranges from using your browser&#039;s &#039;find&#039; function with &quot;match case&quot; on, to writing your own search that uses Google for its first-order results...

(PS: anyone interested in websearching should know about &lt;a href=&quot;http://fravia.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fravia&lt;/a&gt; - so now you you do &quot;,)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was being too clever by half; I was thinking of the complexity that would be engendered in indexing by differentiation, rather than doing the heavy lifting in the application. Dumb of me. That&#8217;ll teach me not to post before coffee.</p>
<p>The complexity of taking a page of Google results and running a character match on it ranges from using your browser&#8217;s &#8216;find&#8217; function with &#8220;match case&#8221; on, to writing your own search that uses Google for its first-order results&#8230;</p>
<p>(PS: anyone interested in websearching should know about <a href="http://fravia.com/" rel="nofollow">Fravia</a> &#8211; so now you you do &#8220;,)</p>
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		<title>By: Neil B.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/12/14/holy-crap/comment-page-1/#comment-35164</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, I think you misframed the issue and the supposed problems thereof. As it stands, I type in &quot;NeXttG&quot; and it just looks for &quot;nexttg&quot; by ignoring capitalization, which is no extra work because either case is just accepted for each character.  OTOH, if I could ask for case-sensitive, it would search for that particular ASCII character string, which is no extra work either, it&#039;s just a matchup task. They have no excuse IMHO for not having direct ASCII search per se (which includes case-sensitive as a subset.)  Now, I do know that Google knows to look for the &quot;CIA&quot; if I type in &quot;cia&quot;, but that is about recognizing important names in the world and not character recognition as such.

I will look into regex but don&#039;t think that vitiates my complaint.

What were you thinking?  I know there&#039;s a temptation to say to yourself, &quot;But *they* couldn&#039;t really be that stupid/lazy/unconcerned, so&quot; ... and then you contrive a kludgey rationalization for what the big boys do. They count on people doing that, just so they can get away with often being stupid/lazy/unconcerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, I think you misframed the issue and the supposed problems thereof. As it stands, I type in &#8220;NeXttG&#8221; and it just looks for &#8220;nexttg&#8221; by ignoring capitalization, which is no extra work because either case is just accepted for each character.  OTOH, if I could ask for case-sensitive, it would search for that particular ASCII character string, which is no extra work either, it&#8217;s just a matchup task. They have no excuse IMHO for not having direct ASCII search per se (which includes case-sensitive as a subset.)  Now, I do know that Google knows to look for the &#8220;CIA&#8221; if I type in &#8220;cia&#8221;, but that is about recognizing important names in the world and not character recognition as such.</p>
<p>I will look into regex but don&#8217;t think that vitiates my complaint.</p>
<p>What were you thinking?  I know there&#8217;s a temptation to say to yourself, &#8220;But *they* couldn&#8217;t really be that stupid/lazy/unconcerned, so&#8221; &#8230; and then you contrive a kludgey rationalization for what the big boys do. They count on people doing that, just so they can get away with often being stupid/lazy/unconcerned.</p>
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		<title>By: The Almighty Bob</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/12/14/holy-crap/comment-page-1/#comment-35110</link>
		<dc:creator>The Almighty Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 21:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#55 Kluge; YOU (or y&#039;all, if you prefer) have one. Unfortunately, even if you do it by percentage of speakers you&#039;d be outvoted on making it official (check &quot;population of India&quot; if you feel I&#039;m wrong :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#55 Kluge; YOU (or y&#8217;all, if you prefer) have one. Unfortunately, even if you do it by percentage of speakers you&#8217;d be outvoted on making it official (check &#8220;population of India&#8221; if you feel I&#8217;m wrong <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The Almighty Bob</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/12/14/holy-crap/comment-page-1/#comment-35116</link>
		<dc:creator>The Almighty Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 21:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google does lower-case only due to the fun and games that differentiating would cause. How would you like having to re-search your query with all the different possible capitalisations? That&#039;s what we&#039;d have to do to get current functionality if there was no &quot;don&#039;t differentiate&quot; option. If there was an option, they would have to search generate all possible capitalisations, search them all, then return the union of the results. By the time you&#039;ve scaled this up to millions of searches daily, then start doing it in different languages, you can understand why they decided not to bother.

Have you tried searching your phrase, then running the results through a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_expression&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;regex&lt;/a&gt;? (the link is Wikipedia - I know, but sometimes there just isn&#039;t a better reference to hand).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google does lower-case only due to the fun and games that differentiating would cause. How would you like having to re-search your query with all the different possible capitalisations? That&#8217;s what we&#8217;d have to do to get current functionality if there was no &#8220;don&#8217;t differentiate&#8221; option. If there was an option, they would have to search generate all possible capitalisations, search them all, then return the union of the results. By the time you&#8217;ve scaled this up to millions of searches daily, then start doing it in different languages, you can understand why they decided not to bother.</p>
<p>Have you tried searching your phrase, then running the results through a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_expression" rel="nofollow">regex</a>? (the link is Wikipedia &#8211; I know, but sometimes there just isn&#8217;t a better reference to hand).</p>
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		<title>By: Neil B.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/12/14/holy-crap/comment-page-1/#comment-35115</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kluge, you have a point even though I still like Obama.  He talks a lot about change and where we need to go, but I want to be sure he has worked all that out well enough.

(Hey, are you a computer type? People pick on Microsoft for this and that, and me too for e.g. not even having a good way to print lists of files from directories, but how can Google get away with not having, IIUC, a case-sensitive search? (And direct character string search) It is often so inconvenient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kluge, you have a point even though I still like Obama.  He talks a lot about change and where we need to go, but I want to be sure he has worked all that out well enough.</p>
<p>(Hey, are you a computer type? People pick on Microsoft for this and that, and me too for e.g. not even having a good way to print lists of files from directories, but how can Google get away with not having, IIUC, a case-sensitive search? (And direct character string search) It is often so inconvenient.</p>
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		<title>By: Kluge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/12/14/holy-crap/comment-page-1/#comment-35161</link>
		<dc:creator>Kluge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 06:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I see I was beaten to the punch with y&#039;all.

Anyway, Obama seems far too inexperienced (as his relatively meager record and campaign missteps show) to be President at this point in his career.

I&#039;m also disturbed by how much his campaign is about how wonderful and &quot;different&quot; he is personally, rather than about his policies.  IMO, a candidate&#039;s policies are the best guide to their character.

While there are things I don&#039;t like about Hillary, I think we need someone who will be able to deal with the firestorm of criticism that will come from the right, and who knows how to get things done in the Washington we have, not the one we wished we had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I see I was beaten to the punch with y&#8217;all.</p>
<p>Anyway, Obama seems far too inexperienced (as his relatively meager record and campaign missteps show) to be President at this point in his career.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also disturbed by how much his campaign is about how wonderful and &#8220;different&#8221; he is personally, rather than about his policies.  IMO, a candidate&#8217;s policies are the best guide to their character.</p>
<p>While there are things I don&#8217;t like about Hillary, I think we need someone who will be able to deal with the firestorm of criticism that will come from the right, and who knows how to get things done in the Washington we have, not the one we wished we had.</p>
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		<title>By: Kluge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/12/14/holy-crap/comment-page-1/#comment-35114</link>
		<dc:creator>Kluge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 05:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neil B.  (#26)

We have one; it&#039;s y&#039;all...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil B.  (#26)</p>
<p>We have one; it&#8217;s y&#8217;all&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Almighty Bob</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/12/14/holy-crap/comment-page-1/#comment-35127</link>
		<dc:creator>The Almighty Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 02:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah. We were talking at cross-purposes. Impeachment may well be absolutely necessary to the continued health of American democracy; I feel unqualified to comment authoritatively. I was saying that, outside the US, its impact would be marginal.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I am in favor of all your ideas for change.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You know the really sad part? The only &#039;change&#039; in that list is Kyoto. Everything else is attempting to put the situation back the way Clinton left it.
(Mentioning him... HOW did you impeach him for a blowjob when the current monkey seems untouchable?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah. We were talking at cross-purposes. Impeachment may well be absolutely necessary to the continued health of American democracy; I feel unqualified to comment authoritatively. I was saying that, outside the US, its impact would be marginal.</p>
<blockquote><p>I am in favor of all your ideas for change.</p></blockquote>
<p>You know the really sad part? The only &#8216;change&#8217; in that list is Kyoto. Everything else is attempting to put the situation back the way Clinton left it.<br />
(Mentioning him&#8230; HOW did you impeach him for a blowjob when the current monkey seems untouchable?)</p>
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		<title>By: Diocletian</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/12/14/holy-crap/comment-page-1/#comment-35170</link>
		<dc:creator>Diocletian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said, Almighty, impeachment is essential to the political education of the American people. I am in favor of all your ideas for change, but unless Americans can understand how they were fooled then they will only be misled again. GWB himself said, &quot;You can fool some of the people all of the time - and those are the ones you want to focus on.&quot;

Having said that,  I appreciate that impeachment is a near impossibility. The prosecuting entities  are complicit in the crimes of Bush. Further, the media that would report on impeachment proceedings iare also complicit in Bush&#039;s crimes by supporting the blatant lies about WMDs and by failure to investigate and report on dozens of other Bush lies that daily lead us closer to our destruction.

There is hope though that Bush et al. will be prosecuted sometime after they leave office. If so, I hope they will be tried in the U.S. rather than in the International Criminal Court. I would like to see death penalties imposed on the principals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said, Almighty, impeachment is essential to the political education of the American people. I am in favor of all your ideas for change, but unless Americans can understand how they were fooled then they will only be misled again. GWB himself said, &#8220;You can fool some of the people all of the time &#8211; and those are the ones you want to focus on.&#8221;</p>
<p>Having said that,  I appreciate that impeachment is a near impossibility. The prosecuting entities  are complicit in the crimes of Bush. Further, the media that would report on impeachment proceedings iare also complicit in Bush&#8217;s crimes by supporting the blatant lies about WMDs and by failure to investigate and report on dozens of other Bush lies that daily lead us closer to our destruction.</p>
<p>There is hope though that Bush et al. will be prosecuted sometime after they leave office. If so, I hope they will be tried in the U.S. rather than in the International Criminal Court. I would like to see death penalties imposed on the principals.</p>
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		<title>By: The Almighty Bob</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/12/14/holy-crap/comment-page-1/#comment-35126</link>
		<dc:creator>The Almighty Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Chanda. I knew I was responding to Diocletian; I should have made that explicit. Too used to arguing face-to-face and making it clear which argument I&#039;m in by yelling, finger-wagging etc, I suppose... (&quot;,)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Chanda. I knew I was responding to Diocletian; I should have made that explicit. Too used to arguing face-to-face and making it clear which argument I&#8217;m in by yelling, finger-wagging etc, I suppose&#8230; (&#8220;,)</p>
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		<title>By: Chanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just a quick note to point out that I&#039;m not the one who thinks impeachment is the answer! I think Bush should be thrown in jail, but I agree that there are other, crucial things that need to be dealt with. In the end, jail for Bush may add up to just symbolism too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just a quick note to point out that I&#8217;m not the one who thinks impeachment is the answer! I think Bush should be thrown in jail, but I agree that there are other, crucial things that need to be dealt with. In the end, jail for Bush may add up to just symbolism too.</p>
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		<title>By: The Almighty Bob</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/12/14/holy-crap/comment-page-1/#comment-35169</link>
		<dc:creator>The Almighty Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Chanda.
In relation to your first point, Diocletian; are you familiar with the work of a Mr. Bill Hicks?
&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;ll show you politics in America. Here it is, right here: I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs. I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking. Hey wait a minute, there&#039;s one guy holding up both puppets!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

On your second point: &#039;only&#039; nothing will convince us of your good faith. Impeaching Bush and Cheney would be a start. Repealing all of the laws passed gathering power to the President would be a start. Rebuilding New Orleans or otherwise taking care of the refugees would be a start. Ratifying the Kyoto Protocol would be a start. Reining in the CIA would be a start. Getting your troops home would be a start. Opening the records of the rendition flights and the secret torture bases would be a start. Closing Guantanamo would be a start.
There are more important and more urgent things on that list than impeaching the previous administration. Impeaching the current administration would be good, as it&#039;s about the only thing on that list Congress can actually do at the moment, but once Bush and the rest are out of office there&#039;s a lot more needs doing faster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Chanda.<br />
In relation to your first point, Diocletian; are you familiar with the work of a Mr. Bill Hicks?</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;ll show you politics in America. Here it is, right here: I think the puppet on the right shares my beliefs. I think the puppet on the left is more to my liking. Hey wait a minute, there&#8217;s one guy holding up both puppets!</p></blockquote>
<p>On your second point: &#8216;only&#8217; nothing will convince us of your good faith. Impeaching Bush and Cheney would be a start. Repealing all of the laws passed gathering power to the President would be a start. Rebuilding New Orleans or otherwise taking care of the refugees would be a start. Ratifying the Kyoto Protocol would be a start. Reining in the CIA would be a start. Getting your troops home would be a start. Opening the records of the rendition flights and the secret torture bases would be a start. Closing Guantanamo would be a start.<br />
There are more important and more urgent things on that list than impeaching the previous administration. Impeaching the current administration would be good, as it&#8217;s about the only thing on that list Congress can actually do at the moment, but once Bush and the rest are out of office there&#8217;s a lot more needs doing faster.</p>
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		<title>By: Diocletian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diocletian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We&#039;re all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.&quot; -- Oscar Wilde

That list of candidates was selected by the corporate plutocracy, the same gangsters who profit from the endless state of warfare and who finance the individual campaigns. If you want to know who the real terrorists are, look at the campaign donor lists.

The fact that unnamed candidates can command a quarter of the vote testifies to the illegitimacy of the candidate list in a democracy and gives the lie to the idea that Kucinich is unelectable. If Kucinich or Paul were allowed just half the tv coverage that other corporate they&#039;d be leading the polls. Their ideas are truly more in the mainstream than any of the right winger lists, but the voters don&#039;t know it.  Of course iff an elected candidate does not toe the line, he&#039;ll be killed, the same as Carnahan and Wellstone. It&#039;s a question of survivability, not electability.


IF you accept the corporate proffered candidates as comprising a legitimate election, then you are propping up a Potemkin democracy; you&#039;re playing the role of those whom Joseph Stalin called useful idiots.

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&quot;If nothing else, electing Barack Obama would be seen by the rest of the world as a huge shift in the attitude and quality of people of the United States.&quot; -spyder

Nuh, uh, spyder. Only impeachment can begin to restore the U,S, to a respected role in world affairs. After supporting both sides of the Iran-Iraq war for a decade during which millions were killed, then inflicting the hundreds of thousands of deaths of which Madeline Albright was so sanguine, and finally killing another 1.2 million and destroying the infrastructure and the institutions of a society - only impeachment and a total repudiation of the Republican Party will make any impression at all on a disgusted and angry world.

Impeachment is also essential for restoring decency in the U.S. Impeachment and the subsequent trial make a story that cannot be ignored or spun by corporate media, It&#039;s essential that the story of how Americans were deceived and emotionally manipulated into acquiescing monstrous crimes must be discussed daily on television for a long time in order educate Americans and to inform the world that there are decent people in the U.S. still.

Impeach. Convict. Punish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.&#8221; &#8212; Oscar Wilde</p>
<p>That list of candidates was selected by the corporate plutocracy, the same gangsters who profit from the endless state of warfare and who finance the individual campaigns. If you want to know who the real terrorists are, look at the campaign donor lists.</p>
<p>The fact that unnamed candidates can command a quarter of the vote testifies to the illegitimacy of the candidate list in a democracy and gives the lie to the idea that Kucinich is unelectable. If Kucinich or Paul were allowed just half the tv coverage that other corporate they&#8217;d be leading the polls. Their ideas are truly more in the mainstream than any of the right winger lists, but the voters don&#8217;t know it.  Of course iff an elected candidate does not toe the line, he&#8217;ll be killed, the same as Carnahan and Wellstone. It&#8217;s a question of survivability, not electability.</p>
<p>IF you accept the corporate proffered candidates as comprising a legitimate election, then you are propping up a Potemkin democracy; you&#8217;re playing the role of those whom Joseph Stalin called useful idiots.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;If nothing else, electing Barack Obama would be seen by the rest of the world as a huge shift in the attitude and quality of people of the United States.&#8221; -spyder</p>
<p>Nuh, uh, spyder. Only impeachment can begin to restore the U,S, to a respected role in world affairs. After supporting both sides of the Iran-Iraq war for a decade during which millions were killed, then inflicting the hundreds of thousands of deaths of which Madeline Albright was so sanguine, and finally killing another 1.2 million and destroying the infrastructure and the institutions of a society &#8211; only impeachment and a total repudiation of the Republican Party will make any impression at all on a disgusted and angry world.</p>
<p>Impeachment is also essential for restoring decency in the U.S. Impeachment and the subsequent trial make a story that cannot be ignored or spun by corporate media, It&#8217;s essential that the story of how Americans were deceived and emotionally manipulated into acquiescing monstrous crimes must be discussed daily on television for a long time in order educate Americans and to inform the world that there are decent people in the U.S. still.</p>
<p>Impeach. Convict. Punish.</p>
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		<title>By: Chanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Almighty Bob, just wanted to say thanks for keeping it real and reminding everyone that more than symbolism is required to convince people that America isn&#039;t out to screw them ;) Hell, I think a lot of Americans need more than that to be convinced America isn&#039;t out to screw them ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almighty Bob, just wanted to say thanks for keeping it real and reminding everyone that more than symbolism is required to convince people that America isn&#8217;t out to screw them <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Hell, I think a lot of Americans need more than that to be convinced America isn&#8217;t out to screw them &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Almighty Bob</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2007/12/14/holy-crap/comment-page-1/#comment-35125</link>
		<dc:creator>The Almighty Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If nothing else, electing Barack Obama would be seen by the rest of the world as a huge shift in the attitude and quality of people of the United States. With just one such election, the rest of the world would perceive a US willing to admit its faults, redirect its focus, recommit itself to human rights, draw down its military presence, and so forth– simply because we had the temerity to elect an African American.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Um... No, it wouldn&#039;t . We would, I believe, breathe a huge sigh of relief. And then go back to waiting to see who gets fucked next.
To show us you&#039;re willing to admit your faults, redirect focus, recommit, etc, etc, your next President will have to DO something. Your current government has spent the last of our political goodwill.

(Irish, by the way).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If nothing else, electing Barack Obama would be seen by the rest of the world as a huge shift in the attitude and quality of people of the United States. With just one such election, the rest of the world would perceive a US willing to admit its faults, redirect its focus, recommit itself to human rights, draw down its military presence, and so forth– simply because we had the temerity to elect an African American.</p></blockquote>
<p>Um&#8230; No, it wouldn&#8217;t . We would, I believe, breathe a huge sigh of relief. And then go back to waiting to see who gets fucked next.<br />
To show us you&#8217;re willing to admit your faults, redirect focus, recommit, etc, etc, your next President will have to DO something. Your current government has spent the last of our political goodwill.</p>
<p>(Irish, by the way).</p>
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		<title>By: Neil B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NoJoy - OK, sure, I mean it (or something) should be &quot;accepted&quot; English, whatever that means (Yankee-style academic recognition I guess.)  Hey, how can anyone associated with the South go by &quot;NoJoy&quot;? - just teasing...

Nicole - &quot; ...this poll of almost all Democrats, who are mostly male.&quot; Huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NoJoy &#8211; OK, sure, I mean it (or something) should be &#8220;accepted&#8221; English, whatever that means (Yankee-style academic recognition I guess.)  Hey, how can anyone associated with the South go by &#8220;NoJoy&#8221;? &#8211; just teasing&#8230;</p>
<p>Nicole &#8211; &#8221; &#8230;this poll of almost all Democrats, who are mostly male.&#8221; Huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t surprise me at all that Obama is leading by such a large margin in this poll of almost all Democrats, who are mostly male. That&#039;s what nationwide polls are saying, Clinton&#039;s lead is due to her support from female voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t surprise me at all that Obama is leading by such a large margin in this poll of almost all Democrats, who are mostly male. That&#8217;s what nationwide polls are saying, Clinton&#8217;s lead is due to her support from female voters.</p>
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		<title>By: NoJoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>NoJoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neil B.,
&lt;blockquote&gt;we really need a 2nd person plural in English!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We have one:
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/y%27all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil B.,</p>
<blockquote><p>we really need a 2nd person plural in English!</p></blockquote>
<p>We have one:<br />
<a href="http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/y%27all" rel="nofollow">http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/y%27all</a></p>
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		<title>By: spyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>spyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Holy crap, we could have a black person as the President of the United States!&quot; For better or for worse &#8212; some people will be exhilarated, some will be appalled, some will be scared, some will cry tears of joy. Many pundits will say stupid things, many nasty smears will characterize the campaign. But regardless, it’s hard to exaggerate how extraordinary such an event would be--&lt;/i&gt;

If nothing else, electing Barack Obama would be seen by the rest of the world as a huge shift in the attitude and quality of people of the United States.  With just one such election, the rest of the world would perceive a US willing to admit its faults, redirect its focus, recommit itself to human rights, draw down its military presence, and so forth-- simply because we had the temerity to elect an African American.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Holy crap, we could have a black person as the President of the United States!&#8221; For better or for worse &mdash; some people will be exhilarated, some will be appalled, some will be scared, some will cry tears of joy. Many pundits will say stupid things, many nasty smears will characterize the campaign. But regardless, it’s hard to exaggerate how extraordinary such an event would be&#8211;</i></p>
<p>If nothing else, electing Barack Obama would be seen by the rest of the world as a huge shift in the attitude and quality of people of the United States.  With just one such election, the rest of the world would perceive a US willing to admit its faults, redirect its focus, recommit itself to human rights, draw down its military presence, and so forth&#8211; simply because we had the temerity to elect an African American.</p>
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